Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[tynimiller]

Personally I think years down the road we will learn it was NEVER Rodgers back to Packers that he was tormented with and had to decide this off season - I think at some point well before the darkness retreat Rodgers knew his vision forward didn't align with Packers and it was essentially retire or does he wish to play elsewhere.

 

[tynimiller]

And look - push all the darkness, immunization, Jordan Love drafting.....EVERYTHING aside.

The Packers are all Aaron has known these years. You're talking about a guy that doesn't even have a great relationship with his family or have had consistency there at times in his life.

This would be a GRUELING and HARD situation for him regardless of any hurt or ill feelings which may exist towards the Packers.

Put it this way - even if he's excited for the new chance and I swear he will be motivated to prove some folks he was worth it...but that man as in touch with his feelings he is I guarantee has shed some massive tears due to time here being done it seems.

 

[OldSchool101]

Personally I think years down the road we will learn it was NEVER Rodgers back to Packers that he was tormented with and had to decide this off season - I think at some point well before the darkness retreat Rodgers knew his vision forward didn't align with Packers and it was essentially retire or does he wish to play elsewhere.

This. Plus, we know for a fact #12 got career clarity and if he was going to retire why would he be talking to an entire crew of Brass from NY?

I’m not suggesting it’s 100% trade. However Aaron is obviously agreeable to exploring his options. NY isn’t the only option, but it’s the best in a Win Now. Top 10 Defense? Good solid group of young Offensive weapons. 2 Rookie of the Year players and a friendly Offensive system.

If I’m the Jets I’m saying to Brian. We’re in a push in the immediate We’ll give you #13 and #77, #112 for your #45 pick today. If he plays next season you’ll get our 2024 Day 1 and another 4th Rounder back.
If he bails well send you another 2024 3rd Rounder.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If he plays next season you’ll get our 2024 Day 1 and another 4th Rounder back.
If he bails well send you a 2024 3rd Rounder.

Can you slip Aaron a fiver to have him postpone his waffling next year until AFTER the 2024 draft?

 

[tynimiller]

This. Plus, we know for a fact #12 got career clarity and if he was going to retire why would he be talking to an entire crew of Brass from NY?

I’m not suggesting it’s 100% trade. However Aaron is obviously agreeable to exploring his options. NY isn’t the only option, but it’s the best in a Win Now. Top 10 Defense? Good solid group of young Offensive weapons.

If I’m the Jets I’m saying to Brian. We’re in a push in the immediate We’ll give you #13 and #77 for your #45 pick today. If he plays next season you’ll get our 2024 Day 1 and another 4th Rounder back.
If he bails well send you another 2024 3rd Rounder.

You couldn't do that - the 2024 draft happens before the season so you cannot say if he plays next season (2024 season) you'd get a 2024 first.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

You couldn't do that - the 2024 draft happens before the season so you cannot say if he plays next season (2024 season) you'd get a 2024 first.

shhhhhhh...don't tell the Jets that!

Even if you put in language such as "If Rodgers hasn't retired before the 2024 draft, the Packers get...." Of course, Rodgers could pull a Giannis (Rebounding triple double) retire the day before the draft and unretire the day after.

 

[OldSchool101]

You couldn't do that - the 2024 draft happens before the season so you cannot say if he plays next season (2024 season) you'd get a 2024 first.

Ok fair enough.
Meaning “Doesn’t retire”.

Id also have his contract highly punitive if he retires at anytime in 2024. Such as he pays back $20m retroactive.

 

[longtimefan]

Because he wants to continue playing and the Packers FO has told him they want to move on to the Love era

Was sarcasm. Snoops said he wouldn't be traded

 

[Schultz]

This. Plus, we know for a fact #12 got career clarity and if he was going to retire why would he be talking to an entire crew of Brass from NY?

I’m not suggesting it’s 100% trade. However Aaron is obviously agreeable to exploring his options. NY isn’t the only option, but it’s the best in a Win Now. Top 10 Defense? Good solid group of young Offensive weapons. 2 Rookie of the Year players and a friendly Offensive system.

If I’m the Jets I’m saying to Brian. We’re in a push in the immediate We’ll give you #13 and #77, #112 for your #45 pick today. If he plays next season you’ll get our 2024 Day 1 and another 4th Rounder back.
If he bails well send you another 2024 3rd Rounder.

IMO there is no way the Jets are starting with that offer.

 

[Schultz]

Was sarcasm. Snoops said he wouldn't be traded

My memory without going back and looking is he said Rodgers did not want to be traded. He wanted to stay in GB. His point was that Rodgers had already told the FO this, yet they were still publicly saying they had not talked to AR yet. I am not saying either way if I believe he has a trustworthy source or not. IMO you have misrepresented what he posted. Of course my memory is not what it used to be so feel free to correct me.

 

[tynimiller]

FTR my contacts also have said the front office had shared with Rodgers their thoughts too...this two way street has been claiming no discussions to protect both images and allow Rodgers to think on what he wanted to do. I'm very close to positive this is what happened.

 

[AKCheese]

FTR my contacts also have said the front office had shared with Rodgers their thoughts too...this two way street has been claiming no discussions to protect both images and allow Rodgers to think on what he wanted to do. I'm very close to positive this is what happened.

I’m in New Mexico right now and tomorrow my wife and I are seeing her best friend growing up (in the 60s) whose big brother dated a girl whose brother was friends with a guy whose dad…… and he heard from a reliable source ….

 

[Mondio]

FTR my contacts also have said the front office had shared with Rodgers their thoughts too...this two way street has been claiming no discussions to protect both images and allow Rodgers to think on what he wanted to do. I'm very close to positive this is what happened.

I have no contacts, but I think this makes the most sense. I think both sides have been very open with each other, though we have no idea what has been discussed. They're not going to say boo, until it's time. Then we'll know the outcome.

They have zero wish to drag this out in public and one little, we talked will lead to more speculation and media frenzy. So mum is the word. They can lie to me about talking, I don't care because it's not my business to know right now and my input doesn't carry any weight in their discussions.

all along, since they had everything come to a head and cleared the air a couple years ago, i believe all the contentiousness and animosity many fans still believe is there, is long gone. They may not be best buds having beers on the golf course close, but I think their working relationship as as good as any.

 

[tynimiller]

I’m in New Mexico right now and tomorrow my wife and I are seeing her best friend growing up (in the 60s) whose big brother dated a girl whose brother was friends with a guy whose dad…… and he heard from a reliable source ….

Notice I'd never set anything in stone - I'm merely saying neither GB or Rodgers have hatred for the other and it seems more and more the relationship while most likely done, isn't broken and this whole thing has been discussed for sure before the other day. Personally I think folks have to have their head in the sand to believe zero talks have happened yet or before this week even.

 

[Magooch]

I have no contacts, but I think this makes the most sense. I think both sides have been very open with each other, though we have no idea what has been discussed. They're not going to say boo, until it's time. Then we'll know the outcome.

They have zero wish to drag this out in public and one little, we talked will lead to more speculation and media frenzy. So mum is the word. They can lie to me about talking, I don't care because it's not my business to know right now and my input doesn't carry any weight in their discussions.

all along, since they had everything come to a head and cleared the air a couple years ago, i believe all the contentiousness and animosity many fans still believe is there, is long gone. They may not be best buds having beers on the golf course close, but I think their working relationship as as good as any.

That is my sentiment as well. I've said it before but I seriously doubt that both Rodgers and Gute/the FO would have gone through all that rigamarole last year to get a new contract agreed to if they hadn't seriously patched things up. I'm pretty confident at this point that there is far more 'contentiousness and animosity' on the part of the fans than there is between Rodgers and the front office now.

 

[tynimiller]

That is my sentiment as well. I've said it before but I seriously doubt that both Rodgers and Gute/the FO would have gone through all that rigamarole last year to get a new contract agreed to if they hadn't seriously patched things up. I'm pretty confident at this point that there is far more 'contentiousness and animosity' on the part of the fans than there is between Rodgers and the front office now.

Yup - and not to mention doing the other side dirty is bad for both sides in the situation.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm pretty confident at this point that there is far more 'contentiousness and animosity' on the part of the fans than there is between Rodgers and the front office now.

While I agree with that statement, the FO appears to be wanting to move on at this point. If that is the case, part of that might be Jordan Love, but one has to guess that the other part is that the relationship between Rodgers and the decision makers is no longer exceptable. You don't just purge a first ballot HOF QB, because you want to move on to an untested Jordan Love.

Now take what I said and reverse it, maybe it is Aaron Rodgers that is done with the Packers. Wouldn't change much of what I said, it would just reverse the positions. Rodgers wants out and the Packers are trying to accommodate him. We may never know, but I am leaning towards scenario #1.

 

[Mondio]

I think there are lots of reasons that make very good sense for GB to want to move on, other than they're sick of Rodgers a year after they backed up a bank truck for him.

A lot hinges on Love, i mean he is the guy they traded up for 3 years ago as Rodgers' replacement. If they think he's ready it makes it easier, or the scenario where you lose him grows.

Couple that with the cap hit that grows by a lot if they move next year instead of this year.
then add on a roster that has some parts but is in need of some attention at many levels. Oline depth, right side oline starters, Safety 2 of them, DL at least 1 or 2 legit additions, TE with zero playmakers and WR with still nothing but young potential. Do we think Rodgers can overcome all that to make the hurt going forward worth it at a shot to win the super bowl? I don't think so.

Maybe they hoped Rodgers would restructure again, maybe he will, but not to the point they want. Maybe he will be but they both agree that maybe moving on is best for both, so explore it. Maybe he restrutures yet with GB. I think all options are still very much on the table though a trade seems much more realistic to me today than this time last week.

 

[Snoops]

Was sarcasm. Snoops said he wouldn't be traded

I said he doesn’t wanna be traded he wants to stay in Green Bay and the front office wants to move on he is gonna play somewhere

 

[longtimefan]

I said he doesn’t wanna be traded he wants to stay in Green Bay and the front office wants to move on he is gonna play somewhere

So then what's up woth baktiarhi?

 

[thequick12]

Was sarcasm. Snoops said he wouldn't be traded

Right over my head haha

 

[thequick12]

So then what's up woth baktiarhi?

I think he's right about that. Rodgers wants to return to GB but the team wants to start the Love era...the Bakh thing is getting interesting becas it sure does seem like they havent restructured him yet becas they are at least considering including him in the Rodgers trade

For all we know Rodgers has said ill only agree to a trade if Bakh comes with me. I can certainly see that. Kinda sucks becas would be very important to have a top level LT when you have a first year starter. If youre trying to give him every opportunity to succeed

Sounds like its gonna be Packers east, with Rodgers, Bakh, Cobb, Lazard, and Tonyan all headed to NYC

 

[Pkrjones]

Trading Bakhtiari would save approx. $38Mil over the next 2 seasons (base salaries, roster bonuses & per game/workout bonuses). May be a wise long-term move, almost guaranteeing that #15 (or #13) is a starting-from-day-1 OT draft (Skoronski, Johnson or ?) pick and Tom (or Nijman) at RT.

 

[thequick12]

Trading Bakhtiari would save approx. $38Mil over the next 2 seasons (base salaries, roster bonuses & per game/workout bonuses). May be a wise long-term move, almost guaranteeing that #15 (or #13) is a starting-from-day-1 OT draft (Skoronski, Johnson or ?) pick and Tom (or Nijman) at RT.

I dont think Toms a tackle long term I think he can do it at a high level. Like Jenkins though hes exceptional as an interior guy.

It certainly is an option is just that you know he's a blue chip player and those are the guys youre trying to pay big money. Hes done it as recenr as last year in the nfl. Ibe if the top tackles definitely coyod be better but thats a lot to risk when youre going for 3 in a row here

Remember the weapins Rodgers had wgen he got started? Well Love isnt going to have that luxury. Unless they go all in for him via the draft, free agency and trade.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Trading Bakhtiari would save approx. $38Mil over the next 2 seasons (base salaries, roster bonuses & per game/workout bonuses). May be a wise long-term move, almost guaranteeing that #15 (or #13) is a starting-from-day-1 OT draft (Skoronski, Johnson or ?) pick and Tom (or Nijman) at RT.

Spot on. Jordan is going to be a lot more mobile than Rodgers and even when Bahk missed almost all of the 2021 season, the OL played pretty well. Yes, it would be awesome to have a former Pro Bowl LT, but Bahk will be 32 at the start of the season. He was very slow to recover from his knee injury and who knows how much gas is left in his tank. With the kind of savings the Packers would see by purging him, I think its a realistic option.

I also think people need to stop looking at just the "cap hit" of a player in 1 particular season. That is really such a "blinders on" viewpoint and doesn't really look at the big picture. It might be time that the Packers start cleaning up all the cans they kicked down the road and get cap healthy again, so that they can do more than only keep a few of their own players, we saw the results of that last season.