Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Pokerbrat2000]

That's what I said, all he can do if he doesn't like a trade is to retire. Sure, that means he can help steer where he is traded to (up to a point). But as I said before, I would guess that mutual respect would lead them to trade him to a place agreeable to him. If he wants to still play in GB, that's up to the front office as to whether that's what they want or not. He has some leverage, but so what? Whether they keep him, trade him, or if he retires, I'll live with it either way.

Of course he can steer a trade and by saying "no i wont play for that team", he has not just steered it, but denied a trade. You stated this:

Rodgers doesn't really have the power to deny a trade

I was merely explaining that he does have the power. Also keep in mind, no team is going to trade for Rodgers if he doesn't want to play for them.

Let me ask you this. Scroll up to my 3 trade scenarios. If you were Rodgers, wouldn't you want to see your soon to be new team, giving up minimal draft capital for you? Since, the more that they give up, the less they can improve the team through the draft.

Rodgers is a very smart, calculating person. If he wants to still play for the Packers, but they say "thanks, but we've decided to trade you." Do you really think that will sit well internally with Rodgers and there will be a happy, simple parting of the ways?

 

[longtimefan]

I might see it more as him willing to be traded. I mean, maybe he does want to be traded, but I haven't seen any indication of it. Perhaps he's as frustrated as anyone with the Rodgers/Packers partnership inability to get it done on the biggest stage.

Is there any significance to the 9th, since you picked it as a potential date for an announcement?

Jason wilde said that date

 

[longtimefan]

Of course he can steer a trade and by saying "no i wont play for that team", he has not just steered it, but denied a trade. You stated this:


I was merely explaining that he does have the power. Also keep in mind, no team is going to trade for Rodgers if he doesn't want to play for them.

Let me ask you this. Scroll up to my 3 trade scenarios. If you were Rodgers, wouldn't you want to see your soon to be new team, giving up minimal draft capital for you? Since, the more that they give up, the less they can improve the team through the draft.

Rodgers is a very smart, calculating person. If he wants to still play for the Packers, but they say "thanks, but we've decided to trade you." Do you really think that will sit well internally with Rodgers and there will be a happy, simple parting of the ways?

Rodgers implied on pat mcafee that he would understand?

 

[longtimefan]

I was just reading an article about Rodgers, and the comments from presumably Packer fans were pretty brutal. Basically blaming Rodgers for being such a diva, holding the team hostage, etc. Sorry, but that's nonsense. All Rodgers has to do is decide to retire or not, and as long as he does that by draft day, it's fine. The team is the one that has to make the decision, whether to ride it out with Rodgers, or go with love.

But rodgers said he wanted to do it sooner to give the team more time?

 

[Heyjoe4]

9th

I like that day.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I meant if Rodgers said, there are talks of me being traded qualify as him wanting to be traded

I think the "all options are on the table" from both Gluten and Rodgers means they've already discussed, probably decided, where he'll go. I look at it as the process of elimination. He won't retire this year and he won't go back to GB. The latter because they've failed 4 times to get back to the SB with him. For everyone, a change of scenery would be good. I might be wrong of course.

 

[Heyjoe4]

But rodgers said he wanted to do it sooner to give the team more time?

Yeah I mean unlike three years ago, when Gluten had to beg him to come back, this year everything seems copacetic.

One reason I think he'll go to the Jets is Derek Carr. Carr has interviewed with the Jets, it would be a perfect situation for him, but the Jets seem to be waiting on Rodgers. If Rodgers stays in GB (I don't think so, but maybe), then Carr goes to the Jets.

I guess the only thing that could muck this all up is if Lamar Jackson goes to the Jets. I think the Jets feel they can win now with Rodgers, nurse Wilson along and give him another shot in a year or two.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rodgers implied on pat mcafee that he would understand?

Well I have learned that sometimes people imply things, that they don't really mean.

Imagine if Rodgers knocked on Gute's door and says: "Hey Brian, I've decided I am staying."

Gute responds: "Well Aaron, we have decided we are moving forward with Jordan at QB and would like to talk to you about a couple of teams that inquired about trading for you."

Now the Packers and Aaron would probably announce that it was a mutual parting of the ways, but how do you think that kind of rejection would sit with #12? Not how he would talk about it outside his inner circle, how he would actually feel about it.

Just so people are aware. I have never spoken to Aaron about these matters, some think I have and know exactly what he feels and says and might even think I am part of his inner circle. I am not. This post and many like it, are just my opinion.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

But rodgers said he wanted to do it sooner to give the team more time?

Yes he did. I think he is quoting pretty much what I have been saying for weeks:

"It's best for anybody who has an interest to make a decision sooner rather than later"

 

[AKCheese]

I was just reading an article about Rodgers, and the comments from presumably Packer fans were pretty brutal. Basically blaming Rodgers for being such a diva, holding the team hostage, etc. Sorry, but that's nonsense. All Rodgers has to do is decide to retire or not, and as long as he does that by draft day, it's fine. The team is the one that has to make the decision, whether to ride it out with Rodgers, or go with love.

I agree with what you’re saying as it pertains to NOW. What I can’t understand at all is why Green Bay reworked his deal the way they did. That seems (to me) where they gave Rodgers all the leverage and honestly he’d be a fool to not use it to his maximum advantage.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This scenario would not surprise me at all and similar to what Favre did:

"Rodgers has a fully-guaranteed $58.3 million option bonus that must be exercised between March 17 and Week One of the regular season. If he’d retire before the window opens and if he’d unretire before that window closes, the Packers would be on the clock, strapped with the obligation to pay him either the option bonus or owe that same amount in base salary for 2023."

Will Aaron Rodgers retire now, unretire later? - ProFootballTalk

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[Heyjoe4]

This scenario would not surprise me at all and similar to what Favre did:

"Rodgers has a fully-guaranteed $58.3 million option bonus that must be exercised between March 17 and Week One of the regular season. If he’d retire before the window opens and if he’d unretire before that window closes, the Packers would be on the clock, strapped with the obligation to pay him either the option bonus or owe that same amount in base salary for 2023."

Will Aaron Rodgers retire now, unretire later? - ProFootballTalk

As Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers continues to feign general ignorance as to the necessity of a decision about his future, there’s a very specific path he potentially could take.With so much speculation on the possibility of Rodgers following Brett Favre’s footsteps to the Jets, Rodgers could...

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Wow this would be a nightmare situation. That said, Rodgers is certainly capable of pulling such a stunt.

I think, though, if he agrees to be traded now (maybe he wants out of GB as much as the Packers want him gone) he could take the Jets gig, which seems to be his best route to get back to the SB. If he delays that, the Jets would probably go with Carr, and Rodgers would have a less-desirable destination down the road. If he only cares about the $58 mil (and who wouldn't?), then the team doesn't matter.

 

[rmontro]

Regarding Rodgers to the Jets, he wouldn't be the first athlete who liked the idea of going to New York so he could get the full attention of the press in the big apple. I saw Joe Namath said he would give permission for him to wear his retired #12. With Rodgers you never know though, he might prefer to wear #10, just as a dig to his former team.

Imagine if Rodgers knocked on Gute's door and says: "Hey Brian, I've decided I am staying."

Gute responds: "Well Aaron, we have decided we are moving forward with Jordan at QB and would like to talk to you about a couple of teams that inquired about trading for you."

Now the Packers and Aaron would probably announce that it was a mutual parting of the ways, but how do you think that kind of rejection would sit with #12? Not how he would talk about it outside his inner circle, how he would actually feel about it.

Situations like this are kind of like marriages, or long love affairs. You can be as mature as you want about it, but there are still going to be some hurt feelings under there somewhere.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I saw Joe Namath said he would give permission for him to wear his retired #12. With Rodgers you never know though, he might prefer to wear #10, just as a dig to his former team.

I heard that as well about Namath, but I think "your plan", would definitely....suit him. Heck, he might even choose #4.

 

[Pugger]

it was not directed at you, just a general statement for wherever it may apply. As for draft day, maybe that is the wrong day. Pick whatever deadline you think is appropriate, as long as he makes his decision known by then it should be fine. But I don't think that time has passed yet.



Rodgers doesn't really have the power to deny a trade, all he can do is retire if he doesn't like where he's going. I would suspect, however, that out of mutual respect, the two sides might be able to come to some sort of agreement where he would be sent someplace agreeable to him.

If Rodgers wants to continue playing and Packers' management are ready to move on with Love they will do everything they can to accommodate Rodgers' wishes and send him to a team of his liking while getting a decent return in our investment with AR from his new team.

 

[Pugger]

Regarding Rodgers to the Jets, he wouldn't be the first athlete who liked the idea of going to New York so he could get the full attention of the press in the big apple. I saw Joe Namath said he would give permission for him to wear his retired #12. With Rodgers you never know though, he might prefer to wear #10, just as a dig to his former team.


Situations like this are kind of like marriages, or long love affairs. You can be as mature as you want about it, but there are still going to be some hurt feelings under there somewhere.

He might want to wear #8. Didn't he wear that number in college?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

He might want to wear #8. Didn't he wear that number in college?

Or #4....he wore that # when he played at Butte Community College. I didn't know that Rodgers as a freshman in HS was just 5' 3" tall.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If Rodgers wants to continue playing and Packers' management are ready to move on with Love they will do everything they can to accommodate Rodgers' wishes and send him to a team of his liking while getting a decent return in our investment with AR from his new team.

Actually, if the Packers want to trade Rodgers, they will probably have to....send him to a team of his liking or he will just threaten to retire once traded. No team will make the trade until they know that he will actually play for them. I'm guessing that he will also want a new contract with that team. The return you speak of will only be decent if he is willing to play for more than 1 team that has interest in him...if there even is more than 1 team. Otherwise, if it's just one team, good luck getting very much for him.

The Packers handcuffed themselves with his contract extension last year and he knows it.

 

[Pugger]

Or #4....he wore that # when he played at Butte Community College. I didn't know that Rodgers as a freshman in HS was just 5' 3" tall.

That's not surprising. I remember as a kid in 8th grade several of the girls were taller than the boys but once they got into HS most fellas pass us by height wise.

 

[Pugger]

Actually, if the Packers want to trade Rodgers, they will probably have to....send him to a team of his liking or he will just threaten to retire once traded. No team will make the trade until they know that he will actually play for them. I'm guessing that he will also want a new contract with that team. The return you speak of will only be decent if he is willing to play for more than 1 team that has interest in him...if there even is more than 1 team. Otherwise, if it's just one team, good luck getting very much for him.

The Packers handcuffed themselves with his contract extension last year and he knows it.

For sure. I had no problem with an extension but management was nuts to give him that one. There are only so many teams out there that will want a 40 year old QB. The Jets seem interested as do the Raiders. We'd get the best return with either these teams. I suspect AR will want to go to Vegas to play with Adams and be closer to CA. Plus he'll be in the AFC.

 

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[Snoops]

Just wanna verify this is all true fyi

 

[tynimiller]

That dude is anyone special? Never seen or heard - highly doubt this is true, even if it plays out I’d still bet he just got lucky over someone trusting him with intel

 

[Snoops]

That dude is anyone special? Never seen or heard - highly doubt this is true, even if it plays out I’d still bet he just got lucky over someone trusting him with intel

Take it fwiw but I have a in on Rodgers currently

 

[Snoops]

I got dianni russini and Tom pelliserro in my dms right now plus a lot more it’s actually annoying