Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Schultz]

A little passive/aggressive today? “Ignore” is useful for people who constantly look for arguments. That said, there is only one person on here who requires its use. Well, unless you’re entertained by nonsense.

If I ignored everyone who posted nonsense every once in a while I would be on here alone. No, I would probably be the 1st one I put on ignore. Never mind.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Hey, thanks for reminding me and everyone, that what I posted was an opinion. I figured that my opening made that perfectly clear.

You didn't post your opinion at all but just linked to another article that according to your take mentions that Rodgers not having made a decision has negatively impacted his trade value. If you had actually read that article you would have realized that's not what it was about though.

Your post and rant IN MY OPINION makes it seem like you are upset that others like myself have opinions that differ from yours. Don't read those articles or posts that you disagree with then, it will save you time and reduce your blood pressure.

Once again, you're completely wrong. I'm not upset by other posters having a different opinion at all. But you misunderstand my intention to debate about Packers related topics as me being upset because actually you can't handle someone questioning the validity of the sources named in the articles you link to.

You really need to get a better understanding of fact VS opinion.

That's truly hilarious considering you were the one who posted it's a fact Rodgers puts him above the team.

Poker, suggest you put him on ignore. I did that months ago and this forum experience has increased 1000%.

That's funny. Despite allegedly having me put on ignore you quoted three of my posts last month

A little passive/aggressive today? “Ignore” is useful for people who constantly look for arguments. That said, there is only one person on here who requires its use. Well, unless you’re entertained by nonsense.

The ignore feature is a terrible one which is only there for posters who can't deal with others disagreeing with their opinion.

Thanks, and while that is always an option, sadly, it isn't a 2 way ignore. So really it is only effective if those you put on ignore respect and accept it. I already have one asshat on ignore that was so butthurt about me ignoring him, that he continues to shadow me and post negative BS about me. Fortunately, there are only a few people in this forum that come here just to be the fly in the ointment.

First of all I don't know who has put me on ignore as I don't get a notification if somebody does. In addition you continue to take shots at someone who you put on ignore so I don't see any reason why that poster should respect it.

Well, that is what some of us are debating, that being, if opinions concerning the Rodgers situation as well as opinions of other things relating to the Packers, are news worthy or not. Some seem to think certain things are not worthy of being shared or discussed here, which is fine, but then those posters should wait as patiently as you have, for what they deem to be actual news, in their opinion of course. Personally, I like to read, discuss and hear others opinions of these said opinions. Discussing them doesn't mean they are necessary factual opinions, but non-the less they might be worthy of discussion for some of us.

That's absolutely hilarious as well.

Unfortunately you don't seem to be interested in debating about Packers related topics anymore lately. The only thing you're currently doing is posting links to articles that spin everything in a negative way about Rodgers and when questioned about the credibility of the sources being named get defensive immediately.

I will give it another try though. While I understand that you truly believe Rodgers is a terrible person and the Packers should move on from him as soon as possible I would like to know how you explain the team giving him an extension last season which made him the highest player in the league if they feel the same way about him? Why did those players that despise him rally around their QB to make a run at the playoffs after dropping to 4-8? What went on in Keisean Nixon's head at the time he talked very positively about his experience with Rodgers if he's truly such a terrible person?

In addition I would like to debate about why you link to every story suggesting the team is done with Rodgers no matter about the source but completely ignore it when a reporter like Tom Pelissero, who at least is a respected source compared to the ones you brought up, reports that the team wants him back as long as he's fully bought in.

On top of that, you have completely ignored my opinion on the topic as well. As I have mentioned repeatedly I agree with most posters that it might be best to part ways with Rodgers based on the stupidly structured extension the Packers signed him to last year. I would definitely prefer the team to hold on to him if he agrees to forgo some guaranteed money to make the cap hit more reasonable once he ends up retiring for good. Therefore I expect the Packers to ask him to commit for at least two more seasons to make that work.

Sadly, I don't expect you to answer any of those questions as you have ignored them in the past and as mentioned above you don't seem interested in having a discussion about any of the topics currently being of interest to Packers fans.

 

[Heyjoe4]

If I ignored everyone who posted nonsense every once in a while I would be on here alone. No, I would probably be the 1st one I put on ignore. Never mind.

Well, the Ignore feature is there for a reason. And I agree with your "once in a while" point, but for at least one person, it's constant. But I never thought about ignoring myself until you mentioned it. For me, it's not a bad idea!

No I use it because without it I'll get caught up with a lot of useless back and forth that is good for no one on here. I should have more discipline than that. It's just easier to not see what I consider to be mostly drivel in the first place.

 

[Heyjoe4]

If he is traded. Is it okay for him to miss the otas?

I think that's like "if a tree falls in the forest.....". I don't read any sports news generated locally out of New York.

 

[Pugger]

Yeah even his number 1 buddy, Steven A. Smith said Rodgers is working harder to create headlines than winning championships.

Personally, I'm tired of the drama but hey, it comes with the player. I'll miss his play. I won't miss anything else. Seems a lot of people are just exhausted by the guy. And I agree, he likes the attention, no matter what he says to the contrary.

A lot of the drama is from the media too. They hang on his every word and dissect it ad nauseum. They'll ask him a question, he answers it and then they say he won't shut up. The guy can't even fart without it being front page news. lol

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

A lot of the drama is from the media too. They hang on his every word and dissect it ad nauseum. They'll ask him a question, he answers it and then they say he won't shut up. The guy can't even fart without it being front page news. lol

While I would agree that the Media and the internet help to magnify things, the drama starts with Rodgers and some of his decisions or lack thereof, as well as how he addresses them, continues to fan the flames. Controversy and drama follow people for a reason, if it didn't and it was all just made up, we would see quite a few players in the spotlight. Some may feel that the criticism and scrutiny is unwarranted and maybe in some cases I would agree, but when you make $50+ million a year for playing and a lot more money in endorsements, you are going to be under the spotlight. Don't like it? Then don't give people anything to talk about or get out of the spotlight. Personally, I think Rodgers loves the spotlight and the drama.

 

[OldSchool101]

As you correctly pointed out, the Packers lacked talent at pass catchers and the quarterback being here for nine days of glorified walkthroughs wouldn't have improved the talent level among the group at all.

I didn’t point that out. First of all every player that makes it to the Pro level has talent to varying degrees. So I would never in fact say they are not talented.
To the contrary. Talent has to be developed and the faster that development gets initiated and the more commitment spent to develop that talent = faster results.

If there was anything the 2022 Packers could’ve improved on Offensively it was getting favorable results faster from QB to WR after losing one of the most dynamic receivers in the last decade.

Furthermore. I’d expect more than Glorified walkthroughs with that group. I also don’t condone limiting practices to some formal schedule or setting if players want to improve in the Offseason.

You are severely diminishing the importance of grouping together for workouts in the offseason. This is a practice that is common among all the greats and even Packer players themselves have practiced this theory and greatly benefited from it.

So quit trying to say it’s not important to practice or workout or train with teammates outside a mandatory team schedule. It’s completely false and players from every team and sport do it EVERY OFF season. Particularly the ones who have highest aspirations for success.

 

[Pkrjones]

The guy can't even fart without it being front page news. lol

I'm having trouble discerning whether this is fact or opinion. Cite your sources, please.

 

[AKCheese]

"Now it feels like there are two very beautiful options that both feel really nourishing and special."

Good gawwwwwd

 

[OldSchool101]

If he is traded. Is it okay for him to miss the otas?

yes. But let’s Get our draft picks and at least instruct him to walk into the light. It’s the least we can do

 

[Deleted member 6794]

While I would agree that the Media and the internet help to magnify things, the drama starts with Rodgers and some of his decisions or lack thereof, as well as how he addresses them, continues to fan the flames. Controversy and drama follow people for a reason, if it didn't and it was all just made up, we would see quite a few players in the spotlight. Some may feel that the criticism and scrutiny is unwarranted and maybe in some cases I would agree, but when you make $50+ million a year for playing and a lot more money in endorsements, you are going to be under the spotlight. Don't like it? Then don't give people anything to talk about or get out of the spotlight. Personally, I think Rodgers loves the spotlight and the drama.

Here's what Rodgers has to say and I fully agree with him on that:

“If you don’t like it and you think it’s drama, and you think I’m being a diva or whatever, then just tune it out. That’s fine. But this is my life. It’s important to me. I’ll make a decision soon enough and we’ll go down that road. I’ll be really excited about it.”

Jalen Ramsey had some true words to say about a similar situation as well:

“Don't speak for me or my agent please lol... Y'all have fun with y'all opinions, I'm cool with that. It's entertaining really, but don't act like you speaking facts about something only few know about. Things will get addressed when we feel like it.”

I didn’t point that out. First of all every player that makes it to the Pro level has talent to varying degrees. So I would never in fact say they are not talented.

Of course every player taking the field in OTAs is very talented. But compared to the other teams in the league there's no doubt the Packers lacked talent at pass catchers last season.

Furthermore. I’d expect more than Glorified walkthroughs with that group. I also don’t condone limiting practices to some formal schedule or setting if players want to improve in the Offseason.

You are severely diminishing the importance of grouping together for workouts in the offseason. This is a practice that is common among all the greats and even Packer players themselves have practiced this theory and greatly benefited from it.

So quit trying to say it’s not important to practice or workout or train with teammates outside a mandatory team schedule. It’s completely false and players from every team and sport do it EVERY OFF season. Particularly the ones who have highest aspirations for success.

I'm not suggesting practices aren't important at all. But during last year's OTAs most of the receivers showing up didn't even know where to line up on the field on a specific play. While it's pretty obvious that a lot of fans expect teams to run practices at full speed in pads during that time of the year in reality they don't do a lot more than during a walkthrough before a game.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Sadly, I don't expect you to answer any of those questions as you have ignored them in the past and as mentioned above you don't seem interested in having a discussion about any of the topics currently being of interest to Packers fans.

Well, @Pokerbrat2000, as expected you didn't answer any of those legit questions. Seems you're not interested in having a debate after all.

 

[Heyjoe4]

"Now it feels like there are two very beautiful options that both feel really nourishing and special."

Good gawwwwwd

It makes me nauseous to listen to this guy. Paying him was a mistake. Admit it and move on. I don't care if he's traded or not. I just want him gone. I'm glad he's leaving GB well nourished. Or was he talking about his bank account? Who cares?

 

[OldSchool101]

It makes me nauseous to listen to this guy. Paying him was a mistake. Admit it and move on. I don't care if he's traded or not. I just want him gone. I'm glad he's leaving GB well nourished. Or was he talking about his bank account? Who cares?

Tell us how you really feel!

I think as Packer supporters, we’ve all felt the frustration of being so close to winning it all and not finishing what we started. That frustration shows up in almost
“fight or flight” stance. Either we back the team to death..,. or we want to run from that disappointment hard, fast and far.

While I fully understand that the grass isn’t greener on the other side, I also do know that approaching this season with similar intensity and commitment 99% chance will NOT work.

while it is 100% Rodgers decision, he can’t blame the fans or organization for the frustration they feel. #12 had given off various symbols and signs that’s he’s as frustrated as the rest of us. However, HE needs to be a leader and do what LEADERS do. Take the F ing Bull by the horns!

Many of us are trucked into thinking that Being a Winner is how many SB’s you rack up with top 8 Defense.
I’m here to tell you that’s a lie!

Being a Winner is getting knocked down and using that frustration and learning from it and turning it into passion for not allowing it to defeat you.

I’ll say it again. I don’t believe Aaron Rodgers is fully committed. Im not talking about a few OTA’s I’m talking FULL throttle commitment.

Now to be fair, Aaron is like a Good Pear tree that has not been given proper water and fertilizer. However we’re at a point that if the tree is going to produce it needs to be pruned. Pruning the tree means pruning your $contract$ to make a push to prove you are committed to your team. Putting your money where your mouth is the best way to show full tilt committed and then back it again this Offseason

While I believe #12 is a heck of an athlete, he leaves much to be desired as leader and a Winner. I’m not talking when the Wood is green. I’m talking when the storms of life toss him how will he respond?

Will he be a Winner and a Leader?

Or will he choose the easy and common way and fade into mediocrity. Myself I think he’s too weak to take a pay cut and swallow his pride. His pride is his biggest weakness.

 

[tynimiller]

FTR pear trees are now showing greater production with less fertilizer than more as quite a few fruit trees are showing. Soil amending seems to actually impact their production more.

Also pruning is a yearly thing after about three or four years. LOL

 

[OldSchool101]

FTR pear trees are now showing greater production with less fertilizer than more as quite a few fruit trees are showing. Soil amending seems to actually impact their production more.

Also pruning is a yearly thing after about three or four years. LOL

True. But Don’t say FTR. We can’t even get a half a Pear tree of production.

Prune it or I’ll cut it down!

 

[OldSchool101]

Do you guys think it will be a Morning announcement? That’s what happened when we signed Z, Preston, Turner and Amos. The news popped pretty early that day, like mid morning.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Do you guys think it will be a Morning announcement? That’s what happened when we signed Z, Preston, Turner and Amos. The news popped pretty early that day, like mid morning.

Morning or Mourning? Whenever and however Rodgers makes his decision public, I expect the organization to have been doing their homework for any of the 3 scenarios and attempt to still implement whatever steps they outlined for trade, retire or stay. What will gum up the speed of the implementation of said plan, is if Rodgers decides to continue to play but either side has decided it will be for another team. Guessing in that situation, they will ask him for a list of teams he is willing to be traded to.

Maybe he will decide to have a reveal party on the Pat M. show? If the Balloon is empty, he is retiring. Green, he wants to play for the Packers. Black, he wants to continue his career elsewhere.

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[Heyjoe4]

Morning or Mourning? Whenever and however Rodgers makes his decision public, I expect the organization to have been doing their homework for any of the 3 scenarios and attempt to still implement whatever steps they outlined for trade, retire or stay. What will gum up the speed of the implementation of said plan, is if Rodgers decides to continue to play but either side has decided it will be for another team. Guessing in that situation, they will ask him for a list of teams he is willing to be traded to.

Maybe he will decide to have a reveal party on the Pat M. show? If the Balloon is empty, he is retiring. Green, he wants to play for the Packers. Black, he wants to continue his career elsewhere.

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Sounds like LeBron’s “The Decision” when everyone knew he was going to Miami. It’s less clear here, but just as nauseating (or is it “nourishing “?).

 

[longtimefan]

Do you guys think it will be a Morning announcement? That’s what happened when we signed Z, Preston, Turner and Amos. The news popped pretty early that day, like mid morning.

One week from.today

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

One week from.today

We might need to open another Rodgers thread and make bets on it.

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[OldSchool101]

Morning or Mourning? Whenever and however Rodgers makes his decision public, I expect the organization to have been doing their homework for any of the 3 scenarios and attempt to still implement whatever steps they outlined for trade, retire or stay. What will gum up the speed of the implementation of said plan, is if Rodgers decides to continue to play but either side has decided it will be for another team. Guessing in that situation, they will ask him for a list of teams he is willing to be traded to.

Maybe he will decide to have a reveal party on the Pat M. show? If the Balloon is empty, he is retiring. Green, he wants to play for the Packers. Black, he wants to continue his career elsewhere.

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As long as Aaron does not hold a Gender reveal I’m totally good with it

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

In case you want to get an idea of what his darkness retreat looked like:

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[OldSchool101]

If I ignored everyone who posted nonsense every once in a while I would be on here alone. No, I would probably be the 1st one I put on ignore. Never mind.

I once clicked on the link to “report” myself just to see what would happen. It didn’t go well at all
I was told to practice more tolerance because the Offender (myself) was mentally going through tough times. By the time I responded to that foolish quip?
the moderator had put me on ignore!
What kind of a place is this I asked? Why.. inside just a few minutes I was offended, reported, insulted and ignored!!

 

[rmontro]

I was just reading an article about Rodgers, and the comments from presumably Packer fans were pretty brutal. Basically blaming Rodgers for being such a diva, holding the team hostage, etc. Sorry, but that's nonsense. All Rodgers has to do is decide to retire or not, and as long as he does that by draft day, it's fine. The team is the one that has to make the decision, whether to ride it out with Rodgers, or go with love.