Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

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True. I think the Packers FO has been more than accommodating recently. Allowed him to bring Cobb in, gave him Monster $$ etc..
No more demands, give him reasonable time and if he doesn’t want to play here then trade him or ask him to retire with adequate notice. The entire team building revolves around the QB and I’d want answers well before the draft.
I'd want answers well before the start of the new league year, so that the Packers don't have to do the thinking and leg work of each of the 3 scenarios (stay, trade, retire) surrounding Rodgers. Lots of things happen BEFORE the "official" start of the new league year, we just don't hear about it, because those conversations between teams, players and agents, aren't technically supposed to be happening.
 

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If I'm Gute (and I must admit I am rarely "Team Gute" rather than "Team Rodgers," but in this case...) I'm telling Rodgers that he has until the Super Bowl to make up his mind.
On one hand there's realistically not a ton that we will be needing that decision for in the time between now and then. Knowing Rodgers' decision today vs a month for now probably doesn't change a lot for us.

At the same time that gives Rodgers what, ~5 weeks after the end of the season to come up with a decision? In the same way I suspect there is not a lot that's going to change between now and then (or between the super bowl and start of the league year) that would change things for him.

And I get that it's 60 million dollars which is a lot of money to make a decision on no matter how much you've made. So maybe it doesn't have to be "you have to decide if you're going to retire by Feb 12" but at the same time I don't think it would be unreasonable to say "Look, we're probably not gonna bring back (Cobb, Crosby, Tonyan, Lazard, whoever), it doesn't make sense for our team. If you are good with that and want to play here next season we will do everything we can to put a great team in place around you and will be perfectly happy to have you back. But if you don't want to be here without those guys, if you think that's going to make us too far away, then we'll be willing to help you find a new team".

Anyways though gut feeling says Rodgers is already leaning one way in particular and it's probably just a matter of "confirming" that feeling.... I'm more or less echoing this feeling:

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Nothing to confirm that feeling (From myself or Ken) but just a hunch.
 

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If he is back that probably means they did something to soothe him and next year, will be something else that will need attending to.

Sorry, but while I know he is a QB, I think it is going to be a bad look to bring back his buddies (which happen to be primarily all older offensive players). Probably a few people on the team that might be released thinking 'Gee... wish I was Aaron's friend, I'd have a job'

I've veered sharply into the 'just go away' territory.
 
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This is what was posted that I was responding to.



It looks like he was responding to a question to me. So nobody asked him if he could still play? The question was do you think you can be traded and lead a team to a super bowl and he answered with winning MVP's instead?
Watch the clip
 

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Watch the clip
I jumped around, you're going to have to get me the time stamp. I don't regularly watch, nor care to watch it all.

But from what I watched, I saw a whole lot of questions being asked to Aaron Rodgers about Aaron Rodgers. From what I saw, the context would really have had to change in some part of it to make me change my mind that it wasn't a, "can you still play", "yeah I can play at a very high level, even MVP again" exchange. I'm not sure there is anything wrong with that, unless of course you want something to be.
 

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I jumped around, you're going to have to get me the time stamp. I don't regularly watch, nor care to watch it all.

But from what I watched, I saw a whole lot of questions being asked to Aaron Rodgers about Aaron Rodgers. From what I saw, the context would really have had to change in some part of it to make me change my mind that it wasn't a, "can you still play", "yeah I can play at a very high level, even MVP again" exchange. I'm not sure there is anything wrong with that, unless of course you want something to be.
Clip I posted was only about this topic..3 mins long?
 

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I jumped around, you're going to have to get me the time stamp. I don't regularly watch, nor care to watch it all.

But from what I watched, I saw a whole lot of questions being asked to Aaron Rodgers about Aaron Rodgers. From what I saw, the context would really have had to change in some part of it to make me change my mind that it wasn't a, "can you still play", "yeah I can play at a very high level, even MVP again" exchange. I'm not sure there is anything wrong with that, unless of course you want something to be.
Even in pressers he’s asked a question about the team and he makes it about himself. It’s old. He just signed a ****ing 3 year extension. Packers did everything he wanted except suck him off. There’s zero reason we should be watching another soap opera from this guy again.
 

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Even in pressers he’s asked a question about the team and he makes it about himself. It’s old. He just signed a ****ing 3 year extension. Packers did everything he wanted except suck him off. There’s zero reason we should be watching another soap opera from this guy again.
Then don’t watch? Nothing is happening and it’s all people want to read watch or talk about. Again
 

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I watched 6 or 7 different parts of an over hour long show and all were asking Rodgers about Rodgers. Give me a time stamp.
Seems you’re watching and talking about it too for a guy that doesn’t care. Hypocrite much?
 

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If he is back that probably means they did something to soothe him and next year, will be something else that will need attending to.

Sorry, but while I know he is a QB, I think it is going to be a bad look to bring back his buddies (which happen to be primarily all older offensive players). Probably a few people on the team that might be released thinking 'Gee... wish I was Aaron's friend, I'd have a job'

I've veered sharply into the 'just go away' territory.
Yep and that’s exactly what it looks like. Show me Love. Trade him for some 2nd rounders, eat the dead money, lick your wounds and end the soap opera already. Should have traded him this time last year and gotten more for him than you will now. He’s like a Friggin broad.
 

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That'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
I know previously (recently, post-extension IIRC) Rodgers said he would plan on retiring a Packer.
And of course Gute, MLF, etc have all said they want him back and they didn't sign that extension with the intention of only having him for one year.

As I said elsewhere I think Gute, Murphy, MLF, etc have all went to great lengths to patch up the relationship with AR (and I suspect Rodgers has done some some work on his end too, to be fair) and that they're not just going to turn around and throw all that away to get rid of him. But I also think they are going to balance what's best for our future. Guys like Cobb, Crosby, Lewis, etc probably wouldn't even be considered for returning if not for Rodgers. I suspect they will be allowed to walk (along with Lazard, etc) and this will probably see Rodgers ask for a move. Ultimately that might be the best-case scenario for us...clear a lot off the books and get some sort of return for Rodgers as opposed to him just retiring.
Didn't we have this discussion the last several years?
 
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You are right, AJ asked him to address the online rumors of him being traded. As he tends to do, he brought the whole conversation back to himself and how good he is and how he could win another MVP in the right situation.

How on earth is it possible for Rodgers to bring the conversation back to him when AJ asked him to address the rumors of HIM being traded???

I would add from my perspective I think his being in Green Bay for 2023 has nothing to do with Gute/GB wanting Aaron Rodgers back (they do)...I think the deeper talk is Rodgers waiting to hear how many of the specific guys he mentioned or has in VERY recent interviews (Cobb/Crosby/Lazard/Lewis/Tonyan and such...he even mentioned retaining Jones once).

Actually it's pretty obvious that Rodgers only wants to play for a team capable of contending for a Super Bowl. I don't believe he needs any of his buddies back to come back for another season though.

Seems like the last 3 off-seasons have been nothing but a pissing contest between Rodgers and the Packers front office.

Actually that's solely true for the 2021 offseason.

Rodgers may have earned his huge contract, but at no time, should a player be allowed to hold the team hostage over other personnel decisions, which seems to be the theme of this offseason. Yet, when he signed his huge extension last season, he told the team that he planned to play two or three more seasons.

The Ravens mentioned yesterday that Lamar Jackson will be heavily involved in the search for a new offensive coordinator while he hasn't even signed a contract to play with them next season. Yet Rodgers shouldn't be allowed to have an input on the players he will take the field with :rolleyes:

As far as I know Rodgers never promised to play another two or three seasons but was pretty open about it being a decision every single offseason.

I’m not interested in winning our Division most years. My goals are far beyond what he’s given us.

It's probable you will be disappointed more often than not once Rodgers is gone.

I'd want answers well before the start of the new league year, so that the Packers don't have to do the thinking and leg work of each of the 3 scenarios (stay, trade, retire) surrounding Rodgers. Lots of things happen BEFORE the "official" start of the new league year, we just don't hear about it, because those conversations between teams, players and agents, aren't technically supposed to be happening.


Why stop there? The Packers might want to ask the 14 teams picking ahead of them to reveal who they are going to select so the Packers front office doesn't have to plan for various scenarios :rolleyes:

In addition it's entirely possible the front office will know long before the fans do about Rodgers decision.

He posted the exact clip that is being discussed by everyone. He was not asked at all about his play.

It shouldn't be that difficult for any of you to post the time stamp if it actually happened.
 
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I watched 6 or 7 different parts of an over hour long show and all were asking Rodgers about Rodgers. Give me a time stamp.
My clip not the show. Its 3 mins long how can you not listen for 3 mins?..

there is a Twitter video half way down this page.... 3 min video, but start at 150

 

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Its 3 mins long.. The clip I posted
yes, you told me, and I saw the clip and I read the transcript and I saw 6-7 other clips. Like I said, time stamp it, I want the context in the entirety of the program. Or didn't you actually watch the whole thing before getting mad at Aaron again and can't tell me where it is? Every part i saw other than that one, for the last time, was actually up to 5 different people asking aaron specifically about aaron. His injuries, his thoughts, his thought process, what he would be doing, what he thought about doing, what he though about what he did and how it affected others, and what specifically did aaron think about his play that could affect his decision. I saw all that. Given the context and tone of the entire 60+ minute program, nothing seems out of line in that statement some people seem to be so upset about. Nothing, unless of course you want there to be. 1 moment in 60+ minutes the words MVP came out of his mouth when talking about how well he thought he could play got a bunch of ******* wadded LOL. as if he didn't mention championships, super bowls and winning in the 60 minutes as well.

have your hate fest, it suits you guys.
 

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Then we wouldn’t have message boards or **** to talk about. I can watch whatever I want and have an opinion
you can, but you said there is zero reason to be watching or talking about him. Not me. You. I gave you a better option, but I guess this thread and many others prove what I already know. SOme people just like to be mad LOL
 

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Seems you’re watching and talking about it too for a guy that doesn’t care. Hypocrite much?
Oh, you got me. I'm a terrible person LOL. Yes, I took about 15 minutes to jump around in a video trying to catch the questioning or the answer part so I could get a feel for the interview instead of relying an ******** synopsis from someone else. I never have watch the show outside of clips from 2 shows all season long. I do like to talk Packers, been a fan for a long time. I don't always care too much about what these guys say in general. But there have been 2 times people were talking enough about what was on I had to take a peek and see what the buzz was about. Both times I came away disappointed in my fellow fans. I think they watch to find reasons to be mad
 

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yes, you told me, and I saw the clip and I read the transcript and I saw 6-7 other clips. Like I said, time stamp it, I want the context in the entirety of the program. Or didn't you actually watch the whole thing before getting mad at Aaron again and can't tell me where it is? Every part i saw other than that one, for the last time, was actually up to 5 different people asking aaron specifically about aaron. His injuries, his thoughts, his thought process, what he would be doing, what he thought about doing, what he though about what he did and how it affected others, and what specifically did aaron think about his play that could affect his decision. I saw all that. Given the context and tone of the entire 60+ minute program, nothing seems out of line in that statement some people seem to be so upset about. Nothing, unless of course you want there to be. 1 moment in 60+ minutes the words MVP came out of his mouth when talking about how well he thought he could play got a bunch of ******* wadded LOL. as if he didn't mention championships, super bowls and winning in the 60 minutes as well.

have your hate fest, it suits you guys.
Who said I was mad? Someone commented about SB and mvp

I replied how gronk blasted him.

You then questioned it all..so I posted the 3 min video...I gave a snip of how it got to mvp play.

Not sure how you get I am.mad at him?

You need a time stamp from a 3 min video??? and I gave it to you. 150 mark
 

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Let's see if I have this right. Rodgers says he has faith in all those players, and is looking forward to playing with them this upcoming season, and that means he's threatening management that if they don't stay, he's going to take his money and run?

Now let's look at the questions. They asked him about those players. If he said he didn't care if they were in GB, or sent packing, he wouldn't be a team player, and protect the players around him?

You know what? No matter what he says, there's going to be people that call him a jerk for his response.

It all depends on our personal perspectives that makes us choose which side of the issue we're on. Me? I don't care what he says, nor does. I've watched a lot of QBs come and go in GB over the years. He's like all the rest.
 

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He posted the exact clip that is being discussed by everyone. He was not asked at all about his play.
you're right, specifically in that exact moment, he was not specifically asked, do you think you can still play? But I'll assume you watched the entire video or at least 10-15 minutes of other parts. Answer me this, how many times did they reference him, his physical preparedness, his mental process, and how he thought he could play vs how he saw himself play in the past and how that would affect decisions? Pretty much every segment I watched had that context around it, I hardly find his, again, thoughtful answer, out of line.

I'm guessing or Gronk doesn't say anything, nobody has batted an eye at it. But someone told them they should be upset, so they are.
 

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Something that is said 5 mins into hour long show probably won't be about what was said in last 5 mins. His mvp comment wasnt out of context.

He has a right to say he can play at mvp level. I'm good with it.

The point some are making is why not say I want to win another SB?? Don't worry about mvp.

And they have the right to think that.
 

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Who said I was mad? Someone commented about SB and mvp

I replied how gronk blasted him.

You then questioned it all..so I posted the 3 min video...I gave a snip of how it got to mvp play.

Not sure how you get I am.mad at him?

You need a time stamp from a 3 min video??? and I gave it to you. 150 mark
yes, I needed a time stamp from a 3 minute video when I referenced it being a 3 minute part in an over hour long show and I wanted the context around that part of the show...
at this point, the non answer is an answer. I won't ask again. I apologize.
 
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