Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[Mondio]

Something that is said 5 mins into hour long show probably won't be about what was said in last 5 mins. His mvp comment wasnt out of context.

He has a right to say he can play at mvp level. I'm good with it.

The point some are making is why not say I want to win another SB?? Don't worry about mvp.

And they have the right to think that.

so he didn't mention super bowls, or championships in the rest of the show? People are choosing to be mad

 

[tynimiller]

you're right, specifically in that exact moment, he was not specifically asked, do you think you can still play? But I'll assume you watched the entire video or at least 10-15 minutes of other parts. Answer me this, how many times did they reference him, his physical preparedness, his mental process, and how he thought he could play vs how he saw himself play in the past and how that would affect decisions? Pretty much every segment I watched had that context around it, I hardly find his, again, thoughtful answer, out of line.

I'm guessing or Gronk doesn't say anything, nobody has batted an eye at it. But someone told them they should be upset, so they are.

I had the whole show playing in my office when it was live. Rodgers always answers questions like this, wasn’t shocked one but he went to this route. In the part of the interview where this happened it was pretty pinpoint and he chose to go where he went about himself and MVPs.

I don’t see it as anything crazy, it’s Rodgers, it’s what he does. But I also won’t pretend he didn’t say it.

 

[longtimefan]

so he didn't mention super bowls, or championships in the rest of the show? People are choosing to be mad

can i have a time stamp when he said Super Bowl?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Ravens mentioned yesterday that Lamar Jackson will be heavily involved in the search for a new offensive coordinator while he hasn't even signed a contract to play with them next season. Yet Rodgers shouldn't be allowed to have an input on the players he will take the field with

Right, because a few players have done it or will do it, it is just fine for Rodgers to do it and the organization and Packers fans should just grin and bear it, because he is a FHOF QB, so that makes it ok. Should we talk about the other 98% of the players that play under the terms of the contract that they signed and don't "hold out" each season, until they get what they want?

I get it Captain, you and some others are just fine with all the games Aaron Rodgers plays with the organization, the fans and the media and that is cool. However, please stop trying to convince me that I too should be an Aaron Rodgers apologist, never going to happen.

 

[Mondio]

can i have a time stamp when he said Super Bowl?

I had the whole show playing in my office when it was live. Rodgers always answers questions like this, wasn’t shocked one but he went to this route. In the part of the interview where this happened it was pretty pinpoint and he chose to go where he went about himself and MVPs.

I don’t see it as anything crazy, it’s Rodgers, it’s what he does. But I also won’t pretend he didn’t say it.

I'm not pretending he didn't say it. I read the transcript. I think people are making into something, because they like to make everything into something.

 

[Magooch]

Was Rodgers asked *specifically* about his personal level of play? No, not really.

Was Rodgers asked *specifically* about his objectives for the future, for his team's goals, for what he hopes to achieve in the future? No, not at all.

It's fine if people don't like that he mentioned MVP instead of Super Bowl (Even though given the context it is not exactly out of place) but at the same time there's no need to paint it as though he was asked "Do you think you can win a Super Bowl in Green Bay next season?" and he answered with "I think I can win an MVP next season, maybe in Green Bay or maybe somewhere else"

I'm sure there are plenty of legitimate things to be upset with Rodgers about but this feels like nitpicking to the Nth degree, it's totally making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Actually it's pretty obvious that Rodgers only wants to play for a team capable of contending for a Super Bowl.

Actually, on Tuesday, what he said on the Pat M. show was that he does not envision finishing his career in a situation that doesn’t allow him to flourish. Which came after his soap box speech about him being able to win another MVP. Read into it what you want to, but he was pretty clear that his decision revolved around him and only him.

I don't believe he needs any of his buddies back to come back for another season though.

While you don't believe that, he was pretty clear on wanting them back, naming them by name. After which he implied that by not having guys like that in the locker room, he would consider what the Packers were doing was a rebuild not a reload.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm sure there are plenty of legitimate things to be upset with Rodgers about but this feels like nitpicking to the Nth degree, it's totally making a mountain out of a molehill.

I would disagree, it is very consistent with what people have criticized Rodgers for most of his career, being very self centered and making things more about him, than his team. I'd be fine with him being confident in his own abilities and cocky/smug about it. However, when he uses it as some kind of leverage to get what he wants and by doing so, putting himself above the team, I would prefer the Packers just trade him and be done with the drama.

 

[Mondio]

One line, one single line in 60+ minutes of commentary is a "soap box speech" LOL

I think that attitude is all one needs to know about he person interpreting the words.

I'm not sure what's greater, the need for Rodgers to apparently talk about Rodgers, or the need for some to hear Rodgers talk about Rodgers LOL

 

[Mondio]

Was Rodgers asked *specifically* about his personal level of play? No, not really.

Was Rodgers asked *specifically* about his objectives for the future, for his team's goals, for what he hopes to achieve in the future? No, not at all.

It's fine if people don't like that he mentioned MVP instead of Super Bowl (Even though given the context it is not exactly out of place) but at the same time there's no need to paint it as though he was asked "Do you think you can win a Super Bowl in Green Bay next season?" and he answered with "I think I can win an MVP next season, maybe in Green Bay or maybe somewhere else"

I'm sure there are plenty of legitimate things to be upset with Rodgers about but this feels like nitpicking to the Nth degree, it's totally making a mountain out of a molehill.

Nice to see someone gets it.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Nice to see someone gets it.

Billy Idol gets it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just so people don't think I only talk about "Bad Rodgers", here is a nice compliment to him, from his rookie WR.

Christian Watson shares Aaron Rodgers' impact on WR's rookie season

Whether or not Rodgers is back in Green Bay in 2023, Watson certainly made the most of his opportunity to play with the future Hall of Famer in 2022.

www.yardbarker.com

 

[tynimiller]

I will say if Brady does an interview and speaks to the future he will focus solely on ring chasing.

I am NOT A BRADY fan, but dude chases one thing and one thing only.

 

[milani]

so he didn't mention super bowls, or championships in the rest of the show? People are choosing to be mad

Rodgers is disgruntled every year since 2011. He needs a SB win.

 

[Pkrjones]

He needs a SB win.

Don't we all...

 

[Mondio]

Don't we all...

oh, you know there's a handful it would really pain to have to endure a super bowl winning season on this board lol

 

[melvin dangerr]

Bye Arod thanks for the memories

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Right, because a few players have done it or will do it, it is just fine for Rodgers to do it and the organization and Packers fans should just grin and bear it, because he is a FHOF QB, so that makes it ok.

Like it or not, the quarterback is the most valuable player on an NFL team. The ones who have played at an elite level for a long time deserve to be involved in discussions about personnel decisions while most other players aren't.

Should we talk about the other 98% of the players that play under the terms of the contract that they signed and don't "hold out" each season, until they get what they want?

Just to be abundantly clear, Rodgers missed a single mandotary minicamp in his entire career. You obviously don't care about the truth if you consider that him holding out each season.

I get it Captain, you and some others are just fine with all the games Aaron Rodgers plays with the organization, the fans and the media and that is cool.

Actually you don't get it at all. I'm not fine with it but absolutely don't care about what you consider Rodgers playing games.

I don't listen to any of the talking heads trying to spin interviews in a way to fit their narrative. What I'm interested in is his and the team's performance on the field. Period.

Let me be clear about it, Rodgers had a subpar season in 2022 for whatever reason and if the Packers feel he won't be able to perform at an elite level anymore I want them to trade him instead of paying another $60 million to keep him.

Gutekunst better be right about it this time though as he made the mistake of believing he's done once already.

Another thing I'm keeping a close look on is how teammates talk about him as well as the team responds to adversity. Taking a look at last season there's absolutely nothing that suggests Rodgers was a terrible teammate or the roster lacked leadership after the way they rebounded after falling to 4-8.

Yet there's a significant portion of Packers fan who are up in arms because he didn't mention anything about what they wanted to hear in an interview with some of his buddies.

As I have mentioned in the past, I advise you to stop caring about the perception the media is trying to make you believe about him. Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware that will be to no avail with any of you.

 

[Voyageur]

Like it or not, the quarterback is the most valuable player on an NFL team. The ones who have played at an elite level for a long time deserve to be involved in discussions about personnel decisions while most other players aren't.



Just to be abundantly clear, Rodgers missed a single mandotary minicamp in his entire career. You obviously don't care about the truth if you consider that him holding out each season.



Actually you don't get it at all. I'm not fine with it but absolutely don't care about what you consider Rodgers playing games.

I don't listen to any of the talking heads trying to spin interviews in a way to fit their narrative. What I'm interested in is his and the team's performance on the field. Period.

Let me be clear about it, Rodgers had a subpar season in 2022 for whatever reason and if the Packers feel he won't be able to perform at an elite level anymore I want them to trade him instead of paying another $60 million to keep him.

Gutekunst better be right about it this time though as he made the mistake of believing he's done once already.

Another thing I'm keeping a close look on is how teammates talk about him as well as the team responds to adversity. Taking a look at last season there's absolutely nothing that suggests Rodgers was a terrible teammate or the roster lacked leadership after the way they rebounded after falling to 4-8.

Yet there's a significant portion of Packers fan who are up in arms because he didn't mention anything about what they wanted to hear in an interview with some of his buddies.

As I have mentioned in the past, I advise you to stop caring about the perception the media is trying to make you believe about him. Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware that will be to no avail with any of you.

I quit buying into the media frenzy a long time ago. They'll do whatever it takes to create a story people will read. If they don't, people quit reading what they write, and someone else gets the gig.

Since so much of what we"learn" about the Packers comes off the internet, I have to remind people to watch this old ad from years ago, that was on TV. It says a lot about the internet.

he's a french model - Google Search

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just to be abundantly clear, Rodgers missed a single mandotary minicamp in his entire career. You obviously don't care about the truth if you consider that him holding out each season.

I guess I wasn't clear and shouldn't have used the terms "holding out". I figured most would realize that I was talking about 3 years in a row of making everyone wait on "Will he play for the Packers. Will he retire? Will he force a trade to only a team he chooses?" Label it whatever you want, when a player that is under contract pulls that same schtick 3 years in a row, I call it old and annoying as hell.

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[Pokerbrat2000]

I quit buying into the media frenzy a long time ago. They'll do whatever it takes to create a story people will read. If they don't, people quit reading what they write, and someone else gets the gig.

Since so much of what we"learn" about the Packers comes off the internet, I have to remind people to watch this old ad from years ago, that was on TV. It says a lot about the internet.

Yes, the media makes a it into a spectacle for sure, however, just watch a Pat M. show, you get it right from the horses mouth.

 

[Mondio]

He's making some wait. The guys that do this for a living, have been planning on the day he calls it quits since before they drafted Love. It happens, it's a contingency they must prepare for regardless. He's already played longer than most of the greats. The end is much sooner than later. They're as prepared as they can be. Some are on a Carousel, as one would call it, because they want to be. In an hour+ show he had 1 sentence about winning an MVP when talking about well he though he could play. Only in GB would fans be upset about a QB thinking he can reach MVP status again, as if it hurts the team somehow LOL. and that to some is a "soap box speech".

 

[Voyageur]

Yes, the media makes a it into a spectacle for sure, however, just watch a Pat M. show, you get it right from the horses mouth.

Sometimes I think the horses are speaking out of the other end. Their objective is still to draw people in. It's why I quit watching all of them. None of them understand the concept of truth I'm afraid. They prefer "half truths" to keep their audiences titillated.

I understand how it's done, because I did it for a few years, for a major service, decades ago. It's successful, but when the viewership numbers start to drop, the people paying you to "create news" for advertising through viewership began asking what's wrong? You have two choices. Be ruthless, or walk away. I wavered, but ended up walking away. I'd never go back to doing that.

The problem is, when you tell the truth, as it really is, people aren't interested. As an example. If you're invited to a get together where everyone is going to be firing machine guns at targets, most are in. It's kind of cool. But, if to shoot those guns you're required to spend 16 hours in classes, where they give you instructions on how they're built, including the chemistry of the metals, most people will pass. They're into the shiny object they can shoot, not the journey to creating the shiny object they shoot with.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Sometimes I think the horses are speaking out of the other end. Their objective is still to draw people in. It's why I quit watching all of them. None of them understand the concept of truth I'm afraid. They prefer "half truths" to keep their audiences titillated.

I was referring to Aaron Rodgers himself being on many of Pat's Tuesday shows. Although, we have definitely heard Rodgers play word games as well.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

As far as I know Rodgers never promised to play another two or three seasons but was pretty open about it being a decision every single offseason.

According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the Packers believed that when Rodgers signed a three-year, $150 million contract last offseason, he would remain with the team for more than one season.

"My understanding is he committed to the Packers for two or three years. In fact—general manager Brian Gutekunst referenced this during his press conference this week—that is what the organization expected," Rapoport said.