Rodgers reportedly disgruntled, does not want to return to the Packers

[jhawk008]

To stick it to the ingrate Rodgers, the Packers should refuse to trade him and then make Jordan Love the starter. Rodgers can hold a clipboard for two years or retire.

You're a moron.. ****

 

[scotty]

All of you talking about "pouty" Aaron Rodgers this and that nonsense.. wait until we find out what it's like without a once-in-generations talent like him at QB. We're a supremely spoiled fan base that's gone from Favre, to Rodgers, to .. what? Aaron's career is not over, there are several more great years in him, but we want to play the standoff game. Who blinks first. Guess what, he doesn't play that. He's gone.

https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.html

 

[AKCheese]

3-13 for (at least) for 5 years after Rodgers leaves? Wish I could find someplace to put some money on that bet LOL

 

[Spanky]

All of you talking about "pouty" Aaron Rodgers this and that nonsense.. wait until we find out what it's like without a once-in-generations talent like him at QB. We're a supremely spoiled fan base that's gone from Favre, to Rodgers, to .. what? Aaron's career is not over, there are several more great years in him, but we want to play the standoff game. Who blinks first. Guess what, he doesn't play that. He's gone.

https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.html

He can retire then.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

Hell no. This front office has been DOG SH*T for basically the past decade on drafting top level defensive talent. So much wasted fukn talent that slipped through our fingers and it's so irritating.

The problem has ALWAYS been this FO has been fukn terrible at drafting talent on the defensive end. Like JESUS CHRIST we've spent so much draft capital for the past decade and have VERY little to show for it. Terrible fukn FO when it comes for D talent

I can't disagree with you but the draft is basically a lottery...a consensus #1 pick can be a complete bust and a 7th rounder can become a Hall of Famer. The FO certainly deserves a lot of criticism but it is a bit harsh to blame the lack of trophies on not finding every defensive gem every draft.

...which goes to my point of having money to sign above-average free agents without a hefty Rodgers salary. A lot of us forget that we would have no trophies with Ridgers if not for the defense in 2010

 

[scotty]

I read the first two pages of this thread and skipped to the last page just to say this. All the guys calling out Rodgers saying he’s spoiled or good riddance remember, he makes the team. I watch the games too, I see the offense and get frustrated with all the misreads or bad routes bad offensive calls or whatever...Adams is a STUD, my opinion is AJones benefits from Rodgers and Adams and a good OLine and is a top notch rb but not elite and the offensive scheme could plug and play him if needed ( Dillion looks very promising)....but in the end 13-3 isn’t possible without a HOF quarterback. Careful what you wish for because Jordan Love may not be the answer some of you boys want and this team could EASILY (and will for minimum 5 years) go 3-13 without AR. It’s actually funny that people are so quick to write off what has held this organization together for the longest time in Aaron Rodgers. I’ve “watched” the NFL sparingly since the blm kneeling crap but I still see what’s going on...this team dies without a franchise QB. Prove me wrong.

So much this. This team hasn't drafted a top flight wide receive since Javon Walker. THAT WAS IN 2002.

2002!

I'm guessing from the tenor of this discussion, a lot of the fans here weren't even around when that happened. How about running back - familiar with the yearly question of who would be the number one back? Luckily Jones solved that problem the last few years but it's never been a simple question. Rodgers elevates the team and now we're going to learn what it's like to be a middling NFL offense, the ones we've made fun of - the ones in our division, for example. Or maybe Love will pan out. Who knows. I'm rooting for him, but I'm not rooting for him to take the reigns right now.

https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.html

 

[TexasCheesehead]

To stick it to the ingrate Rodgers, the Packers should refuse to trade him and then make Jordan Love the starter. Rodgers can hold a clipboard for two years or retire.

Oh no let’s not punish him by paying 35 million a year to watch some kid fail from the side lines . I bet he would hate that as he stays healthy and rides off into the sunset. He’d have more money than God plus they’d be proving him right that the packers are trash without him slinging the rock to a elite WR and a bunch of 4th stringers he makes look good. Jeez dude...

 

[scotty]

He can retire then.

Brilliant! We've been waiting for this kind of genius commentary from a true cheese-eating packer fan. Got your Love jersey yet? Are you a season ticket holder? I hope you have a radio show, we'll wait for your next enlightening tidbit.

https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.html

 

[jhawk008]

I can't disagree with you but the draft is basically a lottery...a consensus #1 pick can be a complete bust and a 7th rounder can become a Hall of Famer. The FO certainly deserves a lot of criticism but it is a bit harsh to blame the lack of trophies on not finding every defensive gem every draft.

...which goes to my point of having money to sign above-average free agents without a hefty Rodgers salary. A lot of us forget that we would have no trophies with Ridgers if not for the defense in 2010

No.. at some point you HAVE to hit on the obscene amount of top level talent that we've wasted on the defensive end FOR THE PAST DECADE. And really Clark, Matthews, and Alexander are about it which is sad AF.

We are GB.. we aren't MIA, we aren't Oakland, we aren't some sunny destination.. so FA will need to either be overpaid or have little options in order to come to GB. Which is why the draft is so important to us. Which is why the draft has been TERRIBLE for us for so long.. it really is so disappointing because we really should have done to much better but we haven't

 

[scotty]

No.. at some point you HAVE to hit on the obscene amount of top level talent that we've wasted on the defensive end FOR THE PAST DECADE. And really Clark, Matthews, and Alexander are about it which is sad AF.

We are GB.. we aren't MIA, we aren't Oakland, we aren't some sunny destination.. so FA will need to either be overpaid or have little options in order to come to GB. Which is why the draft is so important to us. Which is why the draft has been TERRIBLE for us for so long.. it really is so disappointing because we really should have done to much better but we haven't

And we rarely sign FA talent or trade for impact players, pretty much depending entirely on the draft. Which makes the disappointing draft track record all the more ... disappointing.

 

[Spanky]

Brilliant! We've been waiting for this kind of genius commentary from a true cheese-eating packer fan. Got your Love jersey yet? Are you a season ticket holder? I hope you have a radio show, we'll wait for your next enlightening tidbit.

https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...r-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.htm

You mad bro? Take it down a notch.

Rodgers is being a diva. He needs to shut up and play football.

 

[tynimiller]

I see ignorance is alive and well...

 

[scotty]

You mad bro? Take it down a notch.

Why would I be mad? Got your Love jersey and your tickets yet?

https://sports.yahoo.com/packers-ha...-aaron-rodgers-draft-day-chaos-010300782.html

 

[scotty]

Rodgers is being a diva. He needs to shut up and play football.

Oh, now we see who's mad, bro.

 

[TexasCheesehead]

3-13 for (at least) for 5 years after Rodgers leaves? Wish I could find someplace to put some money on that bet LOL

I’ll GLADLY bet you that right now, that’s easier money than bettin biden won’t finish years or investing in Bitcoin.

 

[speakhands]

The comparisons of this to the Favre saga are so misplaced.

Favre was a terrible teammate, a terrible employee, and a terrible leader. He was selfish, inconsiderate, and held the team hostage almost every year from 2002 to 2008. He was also one of the worst QB's in playoff history during that stretch, with his poor play and season-ending interceptions ending the team's seasons in St. Louis, versus Atlanta, versus Minnesota, at Philadelphia, and at last versus NYG. Moreover, the front office aggressively surrounded him with talent throughout his career. Think of all that raw talent circa 2004.

Rodgers, on the other hand, has never teased retirement and has been a solid company man despite the team regularly fielding mediocre teams and sticking with McCarthy for far too long. And then ultimately trading up to draft Jordan Love.

I'm really frustrated with the organization. And they just made another very questionable first round pick on a stiff hipped press corner that doesn't fit the scheme.

 

[RRyder]

I’ll GLADLY bet you that right now, that’s easier money than bettin biden won’t finish years or investing in Bitcoin.

I'll take that bet. You are quite literally betting this is the worst run team in football. I'm sure you'll have some stans that'll agree with you in this moment in time but if you don't think this team isn't even likely to win 4 games one year out of 5 I think you have wildly underrated MLF as a coach

 

[RRyder]

The comparisons of this to the Favre saga are so misplaced.

Favre was a terrible teammate, a terrible employee, and a terrible leader. He was selfish, inconsiderate, and held the team hostage almost every year from 2002 to 2008. He was also one of the worst QB's in playoff history during that stretch, with his poor play and season-ending interceptions ending the team's seasons in St. Louis, versus Atlanta, versus Minnesota, at Philadelphia, and at last versus NYG. Moreover, the front office aggressively surrounded him with talent throughout his career. Think of all that raw talent circa 2004.

Rodgers, on the other hand, has never teased retirement and has been a solid company man despite the team regularly fielding mediocre teams and sticking with McCarthy for far too long. And then ultimately trading up to draft Jordan Love.

I'm really frustrated with the organization. And they just made another very questionable first round pick on a stiff hipped press corner that doesn't fit the scheme.

What Rodgers pulled today was way worse then Favre not knowing whether he was going to retire (im not even sure what point you were hoping to make pointing out Favres po disasters in the context of the conversation). He leaks that news mere hours before the draft hoping the Packers FO panic and accept a garbage offer to a team of his choosing. That is really messed up and thankfully Gute kept his wits. Whether you view it differently is on you

HoF QB has a few down years. Team drafts eventual replacement. Said HoF QB throws a temper tamptrum after rebounding from his down years. HoF QB has fans that can't admit their guy is acting like a ******

Just because it isn't a beat for beat narrative replay doesn't mean comparisons can't or shouldn't be made

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

That's ridiculous. AR doesn't have much time left. It was a smart move to be ready for his inevitable departure. And AR's play had declined significantly the previous few seasons. Has everyone forgotten a n that?

How old was the QBs who beat us in the championship game this year? Going on to win the superbowl.......

Rodgers is mvp and has not shown any decline.....
He could have 6 or 7 years left in him. Needs some high end online depth for insurance.
And when will bahk be back to 100%?

 

[TexasCheesehead]

I'll take that bet. You are quite literally betting this is the worst run team in football. I'm sure you'll have some stans that'll agree with you in this moment in time but if you don't think this team is even likely to win 4 games one year out of 5 I think you have wildly underrated MLF as a coach

Underrated let’s kick a field goal MLF? Let’s draft Love and see him fall to 3rd string and get bumped because of contract disputes MLF? Is he good or did he have a HOF qb? Time will tell. This team has relied heavily on Favre and Rodgers to bail them out over the last 2 DECADES...let’s see what happens if you get a kid who won’t last and MLF gets trigger happy and drafts another QB in 2 years and restarts the process before we roll through a HC change. I like my odds, but you’re right about 3-13 bas a little low, but my gut says best season without Rodgers will be 6-10 over the next 5 years....maybe the Jeff Fischer 7-9 depending on schedule.

by the way I’m not meaning to sound like an *** towards you or anyone who disagrees, I genuinely read the reply and see if I can relate, I just haven’t yet. Only time will tell who would be right.

*edit* auto correct didn’t like qb or hc when I typed it

 

[RRyder]

Underrated let’s kick a field goal MLF? Let’s draft Love and see him fall to 3rd string and get bumped because of contract disputes MLF? Is he good or did he have a HOF qb? Time will tell. This team has relied heavily on Favre and Rodgers to bail them out over the last 2 DECADES...let’s see what happens if you get a kid who won’t last and MLF gets trigger happy and drafts another an in 2 years and restarts the process before we roll through a QB change. I like my odds, but you’re right about 3-13 bas a little low, but my gut says best season without Rodgers will be 6-10 over the next 5 years....maybe the Jeff Fischer 7-9 depending on schedule.

by the way I’m not meaning to sound like an *** towards you or anyone who disagrees, I genuinely read the reply and see if I can relate, I just haven’t yet. Only time will tell who would be right.

You're right there could be some hard times ahead. I didn't say otherwise and only time will tell. Only that 3-13 as the best record they'll be able to do over a 5 year stretch is a easy bet to place against

 

[TexasCheesehead]

You're right there could be some hard times ahead. I didn't say otherwise and only time will tell. Only that 3-13 as the best record they'll be able to do over a 5 year stretch is a easy bet to place against

agreed, we’re not the bengals 3-13 is low.

 

[speakhands]

What Rodgers pulled today was way worse then Favre not knowing whether he was going to retire (im not even sure what point you were hoping to make pointing out Favres po disasters in the context of the conversation). He leaks that news mere hours before the draft hoping the Packers FO panic and accept a garbage offer to a team of his choosing. That is really messed up and thankfully Gute kept his wits. Whether you view it differently is on you

HoF QB has a few down years. Team drafts eventual replacement. Said HoF QB throws a temper tamptrum after rebounding from his down years. HoF QB has fans that can't admit their guy is acting like a ******

Just because it isn't a beat for beat narrative replay doesn't mean comparisons can't or shouldn't be made

What exactly is comparable to the Favre situation? Favre had abused the organization and fans for years, despite it catering to him constantly to the point of exempting him from nearly all offseason drills and pausing football operations based on his retirement decisions. When they drafted Aaron Rodgers, Favre was not performing at a top ten level and Rodgers serendipitously fell to them. And the situation still didn't come to a head until Favre himself retired and let the team organize around Rodgers for an entire offseason. I really have no idea how you could think Rodgers asking out is in any way as bad as Favre's constant abuse of his position.

I can't speak to the origins of the leak or what that implies. Obviously, I am not happy that he wants out. But I don't think his discontent is out of line. The Gutekunst administration has been conspicuously disrespectful to its company-man-type players IMO, from offering Jordy Nelson a near-vet minimum deal after cutting him, to not offering contracts at all to Julius Peppers and Lane Taylor, to, obviously, trading up to make the Love pick when the team was in clear title contention and the fan base's deafening demands were for the front office to capitalize on Rodgers' title window.

 

[speakhands]

Underrated let’s kick a field goal MLF? Let’s draft Love and see him fall to 3rd string and get bumped because of contract disputes MLF? Is he good or did he have a HOF qb? Time will tell. This team has relied heavily on Favre and Rodgers to bail them out over the last 2 DECADES...let’s see what happens if you get a kid who won’t last and MLF gets trigger happy and drafts another QB in 2 years and restarts the process before we roll through a HC change. I like my odds, but you’re right about 3-13 bas a little low, but my gut says best season without Rodgers will be 6-10 over the next 5 years....maybe the Jeff Fischer 7-9 depending on schedule.

by the way I’m not meaning to sound like an *** towards you or anyone who disagrees, I genuinely read the reply and see if I can relate, I just haven’t yet. Only time will tell who would be right.

*edit* auto correct didn’t like qb or hc when I typed it

LaFleur has been great by every available metric IMO. Can't blame him for Gutekunst's personnel decisions.

(I'm also, although I'm sure this is sacrilege here, sympathetic to his decision to kick the FG. Thought it made some sense.)

 

[TexasCheesehead]

LaFleur has been great by every available metric IMO. Can't blame him for Gutekunst's personnel decisions.

(I'm also, although I'm sure this is sacrilege here, sympathetic to his decision to kick the FG. Thought it made some sense.)

The moment that decision was made to kick the fg I turned the game off because I knew it was over, it was a STUPID call but we should have never been in that spot to begin with....but I am I conspiracy Tom Brady hater since the early 2000s and that game flat out had some stink to it. MLF has been good, but when you’re handed a fully functional turn key playoff team with a medium grade schedule I’d expect that. We knew in 2019 we basically fluked a 13-3 record off good luck and injury plagued teams before SF exposed us twice! and a 13-3 2020 off Schedule and Rodgers actually getting to throw and not drive the field 95 Yards and then let A Jones run it in for a TD 5 yards out to pad stats Jerome Bettis style like his 2019 year (for the record I do like Jones just not sold on the elite opinion, he’s above average at best) before he choked then got injured like Thurman Thomas in 93 season Super Bowl.