Remaining cap after today's moves

[gbgary]

No. Neither of them are currently Pro Bowl caliber players.

i agree but they're good enough for this year...as long as graham is schemed as a TE and not a WR.

 

[GleefulGary]

i agree but they're good enough for this year...as long as graham is schemed as a TE and not a WR.

Maybe. But they're both here for one more year, and TE's typically don't develop as fast as other positions. It would be wise to draft 1-2 TE's.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Maybe. But they're both here for one more year, and TE's typically don't develop as fast as other positions. It would be wise to draft 1-2 TE's.

I dunno about that, we kept 4 TE's on the final 53 last year. If we draft 2 TE's that would mean keeping 5 as likely Graham, Tonyan, and Lewis are shoe-ins for the position.

 

[GleefulGary]

I dunno about that, we kept 4 TE's on the final 53 last year. If we draft 2 TE's that would mean keeping 5 as likely Graham, Tonyan, and Lewis are shoe-ins for the position.

Don't think Tonyan or Lewis are shoe-ins at all.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Maybe. But they're both here for one more year, and TE's typically don't develop as fast as other positions. It would be wise to draft 1-2 TE's.

While Graham could be cut at anytime, his contract is through the 2020 season. Let's hope for 2 GREAT years!

 

[GreenNGold_81]

Don't think Tonyan or Lewis are shoe-ins at all.

Why is that? Lewis will be with his old OC and Lafleur can make more use of his blocking skills. Cutting him only saves us 1.6 million. Tonyan has demonstrated upside. I don't see a reason to cut either at this point. Why waste draft capital?

 

[Mondio]

Lewis wouldn't be the first vet to not make it out of camp and Tonyan wouldn't be the first young guy that showed some flash but little else to be cut either. I liked Tonyan the very little bit he got on the field last year from preseason until the end. Thought every week, this week they'll start using him more, and they never did. They never used any of them it seemed. I think he'll be there, but it's not a given.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

One slot reciever doesn't fix the position. How is it we made it this far without one? Unless that is the plan?

The Packers offense worked best when Cobb performed at a pretty good level out of the slot. Therefore it would be smart for the team to add a player capable of having an immediate impact lining up there.

Why is that? Lewis will be with his old OC and Lafleur can make more use of his blocking skills. Cutting him only saves us 1.6 million. Tonyan has demonstrated upside. I don't see a reason to cut either at this point. Why waste draft capital?

While there's a reasonable chance both Lewis and Tonyan end up making the roster they didn't perform at a level that can't be replaced moving forward.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

I hear you, but after signing all these TE's last year I also thought we would get those two TE sets going. Unfortunately we got very mediocre production of that group.

If we can add one of the top 4 TE's (Im pretty high on Sternberger as well as Hock, Fan, Smith) we will have a very solid TE group imo and it will mitigate not having a top slot option. That being said, we could easily address both needs in the draft.

If we walk away with one of each of these groups I'd be extremely pleased:
TE: Hockenson, Smith, Fant, Sternberger
Slot WR: Brown, Samuel, Campbell, Isabella, Hardman

It would have to been done within the first 2 days of the drafts though, none of these guys is gonna make it to day 3

I have a feeling McCarthy getting chitcanned mid season , had a lot to do with him not using the TEs Gute got for him...
And McCarthy not getting the RBs involved in the pass attack. Get Jones the ball in some space...

Also too comfortable. Everyone. Except #12. That dude is always on on point.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Also too comfortable. Everyone. Except #12. That dude is always on on point.

Rodgers wasn't last season though.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Allison's one year deal with the Packers is worth $2.8 million and included a $750,000 signing bonus. Base salary of $1.45 million, up to $500,000 in per-game roster bonuses and a $100,000 workout bonus.

That should reduce the Packers cap space to currently $12.7 million.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So who are we to believe on Cap numbers? This was just posted:

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Field Yates‏Verified account @FieldYates 3h3 hours ago
Official cap space by team (13-23): 13. PHI: $21,034,391 14. ARI: $20,234,075 15. DAL: $17,389,044 16. CHI: $16,715,716 17. BAL: $16,229,481 18. JAX: $15,127,815 19. NO: $14,084,162 20. GB: $14,004,669 21. LAC: $13,729,299 22. WAS: $12,845,220 23. SEA: $12,819,522

 

[gbgary]

So who are we to believe on Cap numbers? This was just posted:

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Field Yates‏Verified account @FieldYates 3h3 hours ago
Official cap space by team (13-23): 13. PHI: $21,034,391 14. ARI: $20,234,075 15. DAL: $17,389,044 16. CHI: $16,715,716 17. BAL: $16,229,481 18. JAX: $15,127,815 19. NO: $14,084,162 20. GB: $14,004,669 21. LAC: $13,729,299 22. WAS: $12,845,220 23. SEA: $12,819,522

soooo...do the usual minuses and you get...8ish?

 

[PackerDNA]

Nothing changed from what HRE and others are talking about here. Basically some bogus report putting a different spin on the same numbers

 

[HardRightEdge]

So who are we to believe on Cap numbers? This was just posted:

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Field Yates‏Verified account @FieldYates 3h3 hours ago
Official cap space by team (13-23): 13. PHI: $21,034,391 14. ARI: $20,234,075 15. DAL: $17,389,044 16. CHI: $16,715,716 17. BAL: $16,229,481 18. JAX: $15,127,815 19. NO: $14,084,162 20. GB: $14,004,669 21. LAC: $13,729,299 22. WAS: $12,845,220 23. SEA: $12,819,522

Those numbers are quoted directly from the NFLPA Public Salary Cap page:

https://www.nflpa.com/public-salary-cap-report

But you better look at it quick because it might change tomorrow.

If these guys are going to type numbers, tweet and retweet, they might as well save themselves the trouble and just link to the NLFPA page.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

So who are we to believe on Cap numbers? This was just posted:

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Field Yates‏Verified account @FieldYates 3h3 hours ago
Official cap space by team (13-23): 13. PHI: $21,034,391 14. ARI: $20,234,075 15. DAL: $17,389,044 16. CHI: $16,715,716 17. BAL: $16,229,481 18. JAX: $15,127,815 19. NO: $14,084,162 20. GB: $14,004,669 21. LAC: $13,729,299 22. WAS: $12,845,220 23. SEA: $12,819,522

It seems that numbers is accurate as according to the NFLPA 70 players are currently under contract, which is on par with the players listed on the team's website.

 

[InGuteWeTrust]

Over the Cap has the Packers at 13.1 million under the cap right now and they normally have very accurate numbers.

You subtract 4 million for draft picks and that leaves about 9 million. I'd like to see some of that used to sign Wilkerson, but we will see how the draft plays out. If Ed Oliver slides to #12 and Gute takes him then I would be less inclined to sign Mo. I'd be happy with Oliver, Hockenson, or Brian Burns at #12.

With about 9 mill in cap space left now, you also want to keep a little space under the cap for in season signings.

 

[HardRightEdge]

You subtract 4 million for draft picks and that leaves about 9 million.

The NFLPA is the definitive source @ $14.0 mil cap space currently.

The only reason to ever question their number is if there is some recent activity that might not yet have been posted by the NFLPA. Since there have not been any recent signings, that's the number at this point.

The cost of the draft class will be about $4.5 mil once you account for the guys who get rolled out of the Top 51, leaving $9.5 mil.

What I don't understand is why analysts will make a prospective deduction for the draft class while ignoring the other necessary deductions further down the line. There's no explanation except laziness or shortsightedness.

$9.5 is for 51 players. What about 52 and 53 come opening day? That's a minimum of $1 mil. Based on the current roster it would be $1.14 mil. What about the practice squad? Assuming a 6% bump over last season's pay level that's a $1.4 mil cost.

Knock $2.5 mil off the top just to fill out the roster and PS and you are down to $7 mil.

Do analysts expect no one to be put on PUP or IR this season? Do they know that such players and their replacements count against the cap? Keeping $2 mil in reserve for PUP/IR replacements is a minimum prudent amount. That takes useable space down to $5 mil.

There was scrambling among the chattering class in the last week to account for a Gutekunst comment that there's $5 mil left for potential spending. Was he (A) blowing smoke or (B) looking past his nose which the analysts can't see their way clear to do?

The answer is (B). I don't know how this could be any clearer.