PTSD

[TornSolace]

The Packers Front office must have PTSD from both of the violations the San Francisco 49ners did to us and it seems we are trying to copy their offense without actually getting any players that can help us

 

[Poppa San]

PTSD

Save the term for those that actually have or encounter it. Using it like this just cheapens the meaning for those that truly suffer. Bad hangover was a term used in these situations a generation back. I'm sure there are others that convey the same sentiment. Shell shock?

 

[TornSolace]

Save the term for those that actually have or encounter it. Using it like this just cheapens the meaning for those that truly suffer. Bad hangover was a term used in these situations a generation back. I'm sure there are others that convey the same sentiment. Shell shock?

How do you know I've never encountered it? But i don't want to use the term shell shock I want to save that term for people that actually encounter or have it. I don't want to cheapen the meaning there are other ways to convey the meaning, like PTSD

 

[Mondio]

Save the term for those that actually have or encounter it. Using it like this just cheapens the meaning for those that truly suffer. Bad hangover was a term used in these situations a generation back. I'm sure there are others that convey the same sentiment. Shell shock?

You knew a guy like this would just double down on stupid

 

[Dantés]

Memo to the butt hurt temper tantrum crowd: no one cares.

As an aside, can we talk about something...

WHY are people acting surprised that we would be trying to emulate the 49ers offense?? That's LITERALLY what LaFleur was hired to do. He comes off the same coaching tree, runs the same system, and views the game with the same basic philosophy.

It was obvious that this would be the goal from the minute LaFleur was hired. And since the draft, there's this little clump of clueless critters that are like "NUH UH HE'S NOT TRYING TO RUN THAT OFFENSE HE'S JUST TRYING TO SUCK!!!!!!!!1"

 

[DoURant]

WHY are people acting surprised that we would be trying to emulate the 49ers offense?? That's LITERALLY what LaFleur was hired to do. He comes off the same coaching tree, runs the same system, and views the game with the same basic philosophy.

I know, right? Lets hire a coach who runs a different offensive scheme than we are used to....but damnit, he better not dare draft or sign players that will help him implement that scheme because the Packers are a passing team, and coach needs to adapt his coaching to what we do here in Green Bay. smh

 

[Dantés]

I know, right? Lets hire a coach who runs a different offensive scheme than we are used to....but damnit, he better not dare draft or sign players that will help him implement that scheme because the Packers are a passing team, and coach needs to adapt his coaching to what we do here in Green Bay. smh

I don't even care if people don't like the players. That's their prerogative. But we all knew what offense LaFleur was bringing with him when he got hired. Somehow people forgot?

My guess-- some people are just so all-fired determined to kick and scream and say this was the worst draft ever that they just refuse to admit that there might have been a rationale behind the picks.

And maybe it was the worst draft ever! But regardless, LaFleur runs the same basic offense that Shanahan does, and he's trying to collect pieces that fit it. This isn't that hard.

 

[DoURant]

My guess-- some people are just so all-fired determined to kick and scream and say this was the worst draft ever that they just refuse to admit that there might have been a rationale behind the picks.

I think the biggest exclamation point on this draft was taking 3 OL in the 6th rd, and that there is going to be a huge competition to be part of this OL unit.

 

[Dantés]

I think the biggest exclamation point on this draft was taking 3 OL in the 6th rd, and that there is going to be a huge competition to be part of this OL unit.

I am still wondering if Lane Taylor will be dealt to a team that came out of the draft with a need remaining at guard. You could do a lot worse than him at this point in the off-season.

 

[DoURant]

I am still wondering if Lane Taylor will be dealt to a team that came out of the draft with a need remaining at guard. You could do a lot worse than him at this point in the off-season.

Or even Corey Linsley

 

[AKCheese]

Rogers has shown his skills are fading, so switching to an offense that ask less if him, and also looking forward to his replacement... both make sense. I would say people need to not get so butt hurt here but that might offend people with hemorrhoids

 

[AKCheese]

Taking 3 late round OL does not mean we’re looking for them to start this year... or whenever NFL football resumes

 

[Dantés]

Or even Corey Linsley

Maybe so. He'd bring a lot of cap relief if they need it for some reason. So I guess they have that option. But if he's kept, he will be a starter. If Taylor stuck around, he'd just be a relatively expensive backup.

But as it stands now they will have Bakhtiari, Wagner, Jenkins, Turner, Linsley, Taylor, Patrick, Madison, Light, Runyan, Hanson, and Stepaniak who all have a legit shot at the roster (there are some other camp bodies who would really have to surprise to make it). That's 12 guys, and they will probably carry 9.

 

[DoURant]

Maybe so. He'd bring a lot of cap relief if they need it for some reason. So I guess they have that option. But if he's kept, he will be a starter. If Taylor stuck around, he'd just be a relatively expensive backup.

But as it stands now they will have Bakhtiari, Wagner, Jenkins, Turner, Linsley, Taylor, Patrick, Madison, Light, Runyan, Hanson, and Stepaniak who all have a legit shot at the roster (there are some other camp bodies who would really have to surprise to make it). That's 12 guys, and they will probably carry 9.

Don't the new rules say they have to have 8 active OL on Game Day?

 

[Dantés]

Don't the new rules say they have to have 8 active OL on Game Day?

Haven't heard that. Is that right?

 

[DoURant]

Haven't heard that. Is that right?

Just checked, it's actually part of the new CBA agreement. Game day rosters go up from 46 to 48 and one of the 2 additional players needs to be an OL.

 

[TornSolace]

Memo to the butt hurt temper tantrum crowd: no one cares.

As an aside, can we talk about something...

WHY are people acting surprised that we would be trying to emulate the 49ers offense?? That's LITERALLY what LaFleur was hired to do. He comes off the same coaching tree, runs the same system, and views the game with the same basic philosophy.

It was obvious that this would be the goal from the minute LaFleur was hired. And since the draft, there's this little clump of clueless critters that are like "NUH UH HE'S NOT TRYING TO RUN THAT OFFENSE HE'S JUST TRYING TO SUCK!!!!!!!!1"

Memo to the Stick up the backside crew you just have blind Faith in Lafleur with statements like of course he would want to emulate the 49ners he came from the shannahan coaching tree. LAFLEUR was mediocreb he came to the Packers and even then Rodgers was calling audibles every other play because the playcalling was bad. It's okay to prepare for the future it's okay to switch offensive but it's not okay to sacrifice the 2nd half of the prime years of our HOF Qb it is not okay to sacrifice the next three seasons of the Packers players and fans (who keep the lights on) by failing to adequately address a single hole in our offense or defense in the off-season I'm willing to even say it is malfeasance!

 

[TornSolace]

Maybe so. He'd bring a lot of cap relief if they need it for some reason. So I guess they have that option. But if he's kept, he will be a starter. If Taylor stuck around, he'd just be a relatively expensive backup.

But as it stands now they will have Bakhtiari, Wagner, Jenkins, Turner, Linsley, Taylor, Patrick, Madison, Light, Runyan, Hanson, and Stepaniak who all have a legit shot at the roster (there are some other camp bodies who would really have to surprise to make it). That's 12 guys, and they will probably carry 9.

Yeah a legit shot on a mediocre run blocking OL while being mediocre themselves

 

[TornSolace]

Taking 3 late round OL does not mean we’re looking for them to start this year... or whenever NFL football resumes

So basically this draft we drafted all backups(I find that comical)

 

[GleefulGary]

Memo to the Stick up the backside crew you just have blind Faith in Lafleur with statements like of course he would want to emulate the 49ners he came from the shannahan coaching tree. LAFLEUR was mediocreb he came to the Packers and even then Rodgers was calling audibles every other play because the playcalling was bad. It's okay to prepare for the future it's okay to switch offensive but it's not okay to sacrifice the 2nd half of the prime years of our HOF Qb it is not okay to sacrifice the next three seasons of the Packers players and fans (who keep the lights on) by failing to adequately address a single hole in our offense or defense in the off-season I'm willing to even say it is malfeasance!

I don't suppose you have any evidence that Rodgers was changing the plays every other play bc the playcalling was do bad, do you? I'm sure you don't.

As far as Rodgers, I think we can all agree he's past his prime. Still good, but he's clearly past his prime.

Finally, calling a HC mediocre after the team he leads went from 6 wins to 13 wins in one year is pretty damn bold. So far LaFleur has done a very good job. Don't see how anybody could argue otherwise.

 

[GleefulGary]

So basically this draft we drafted all backups(I find that comical)

Deguara will play starter level snaps.

 

[Sanguine camper]

I don't even care if people don't like the players. That's their prerogative. But we all knew what offense LaFleur was bringing with him when he got hired. Somehow people forgot?

My guess-- some people are just so all-fired determined to kick and scream and say this was the worst draft ever that they just refuse to admit that there might have been a rationale behind the picks.

And maybe it was the worst draft ever! But regardless, LaFleur runs the same basic offense that Shanahan does, and he's trying to collect pieces that fit it. This isn't that hard.

They could've had those pieces way further down in the draft using the high draft picks to add talent in places where they ignored reality. Not too smart to ignore the d line with their porous run defense. Not sure I saw a single post on all of Packer Forum or anywhere else extolling the talents of J Deguara before last Friday. He was a complete unknown for a reason. It was a weak TE draft class and he was the 6-8 rated player in that class. Guys like that can usually be had for a low round pick. How much action will he see with Sternberger and Lewis in front of him? People are angry because Gute used the draft to pick up projects and back ups while other teams tried to draft starters with their high draft picks.

 

[Spanky]

I don't even care if people don't like the players. That's their prerogative. But we all knew what offense LaFleur was bringing with him when he got hired. Somehow people forgot?

My guess-- some people are just so all-fired determined to kick and scream and say this was the worst draft ever that they just refuse to admit that there might have been a rationale behind the picks.

And maybe it was the worst draft ever! But regardless, LaFleur runs the same basic offense that Shanahan does, and he's trying to collect pieces that fit it. This isn't that hard.

We knew the offense he was bringing. An offense that ranked 27th in scoring and 25th in yards gained. Hiring MLF in the first place was a mistake.

 

[Dantés]

They could've had those pieces way further down in the draft using the high draft picks to add talent in places where they ignored reality. Not too smart to ignore the d line with their porous run defense. Not sure I saw a single post on all of Packer Forum or anywhere else extolling the talents of J Deguara before last Friday. He was a complete unknown for a reason. It was a weak TE draft class and he was the 6-8 rated player in that class. Guys like that can usually be had for a low round pick. How much action will he see with Sternberger and Lewis in front of him? People are angry because Gute used the draft to pick up projects and back ups while other teams tried to draft starters with their high draft picks.

This is a big assumption, and the way the draft unfolded doesn't support it at all.

 

[Dantés]

We knew the offense he was bringing. An offense that ranked 27th in scoring and 25th in yards gained. Hiring MLF in the first place was a mistake.

Lol... the irrational *****ing going on because people didn't like the draft class is hysterical.

Maybe LaFleur won't be the right hire in the long run. I happen to really love the style of offense that he coaches, but I'm not an apologist for the coach himself. Of the candidates, he was one I liked but did not love.

But he's the head coach now, so they had darn well better run his system. Hiring a coach and then deciding not to draft the players he needs for his offense/defense is the kind of disjointed trash that organizations like the Browns engage in.