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hmmmm.....lets see a low ego guy.....if he was still alive, maybe the perfect fit?

Could call it Mr Rodgers'es Neighborhood.

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I heard there is a guy at Wisconsin that does well without 5 star recruits.
shhhhh.....we don't want Chryst leaving the Badgers! Although this was an off year for the Badgers and for the first time, I was actually was a bit down on some of Paul's decisions. Overall, I think PC does a great job with the talent he is able to recruit to come to Wisconsin, but I also don't think PC is NFL material.
 

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I can't wait for football season to be over and we find out who the Packers hire.
I don't want to end up getting all excited over this or that prospect only to find out we hire Billie Bland Milquetoast.
 

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Forget John Harbough. The Ravens have announced he will be there coach next year and they're working on an extension to keep him beyond 2019.
 

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shhhhh.....we don't want Chryst leaving the Badgers! Although this was an off year for the Badgers and for the first time, I was actually was a bit down on some of Paul's decisions. Overall, I think PC does a great job with the talent he is able to recruit to come to Wisconsin, but I also don't think PC is NFL material.

He would be awful here.
I didn’t say I wanted him to coach the Pack, merely answering the post of who does well without getting 5 star recruits. PC does not get the quality that Ohio State or Michigan get, but puts a quality product on the field every year.
 

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Forget John Harbough. The Ravens have announced he will be there coach next year and they're working on an extension to keep him beyond 2019.

Lamar Jackson has Bmore believing again, and for good reason.


This cements my pick with Brian Flores I'd say. I don't think either Harbaugh is moveable at this point, especially with Meyer leaving OSU. Jim will own the Big Ten for years to come.
 
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One week from today will be pretty telling for Lincoln Riley. I'd have a pretty open mind to seeing what he could do in the NFL, but this far his offenses have faced no tests when it's come to competing against stiff defenses.

If he can prove that he can solve the method to beating the iron curtain wall in Bama, I definitely think he'll be getting a lot of calls from NFL front offices asking if he'd be willing to jump into the grown man league. If not though, sorry but I think his stock plummets.
 

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If Riley can't solve Bama GMs will just say, "He couldn't beat the one guy we can't get to come back." Someone will roll the dice on him if he's interested.
 

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If Riley can't solve Bama GMs will just say, "He couldn't beat the one guy we can't get to come back." Someone will roll the dice on him if he's interested.

Maybe, but that Big 12 conference in general has no defense in it. OU might be the best program in that conference, but there's a reason why Riley's old boss Bob Stoops was the most overrated coach in NCAA history. His team had no conference challengers, and every time they went to the big bowl games they got exposed as dog **** every single time.

NFL defenses are much more challenging than Bama's, so if you cannot beat Bama's, you're just another Chip Kelly whose supposed innovative offenses were nothing more than a product of a bad conference.
 

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Maybe, but that Big 12 conference in general has no defense in it. OU might be the best program in that conference, but there's a reason why Riley's old boss Bob Stoops was the most overrated coach in NCAA history. His team had no conference challengers, and every time they went to the big bowl games they got exposed as dog **** every single time.

NFL defenses are much more challenging than Bama's, so if you cannot beat Bama's, you're just another Chip Kelly whose supposed innovative offenses were nothing more than a product of a bad conference.

As with everything here, 'big bowl games' and 'dog****' can be interpreted in different ways, but the bold seems pretty definitive and wrong.

http://www.soonerstats.com/football/coaches/ou/inbowls.cfm?OUCoachID=22#.XB6dwvZFxEY
 

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I didn’t say I wanted him to coach the Pack, merely answering the post of who does well without getting 5 star recruits. PC does not get the quality that Ohio State or Michigan get, but puts a quality product on the field every year.
Actually PC just landed a 5-star OL, the first 5-star recruit in 12 years for the Badgers. The guy is 6’7” and 305 lbs, out of high school! As for PC coaching in the NFL, I’m pretty sure he has no interest. And I’d prefer that GB’s next HC does NOT come straight from the NCAA. Two different worlds and we don’t have time to train an NFL HC. I see John Harbaugh was extended by the Ravens. I would have liked him, but there will be more worthwhile candidates than Gluten and Ginger can handle. They know as well as we do that the time to win is NOW. This isn’t a rebuild, more like a major tune up.
 

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Maybe, but that Big 12 conference in general has no defense in it. OU might be the best program in that conference, but there's a reason why Riley's old boss Bob Stoops was the most overrated coach in NCAA history. His team had no conference challengers, and every time they went to the big bowl games they got exposed as dog **** every single time.

NFL defenses are much more challenging than Bama's, so if you cannot beat Bama's, you're just another Chip Kelly whose supposed innovative offenses were nothing more than a product of a bad conference.
Chip Kelly is the poster boy for NOT hiring an NFL coach straight from the NCAA. All that offensive creativity worked for about a year, with no thought for the defense.
 
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No matter what we have read, heard, discussed, I think Gute is going to hire someone that he and Murphy like and can spin that anyway they decide.

For the record, Murphy will be the one selecting the new head coach.
 

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9-9 is one of the most mediocre bowl records I ever seen, and a national championship win back in 2000 is completely meaningless.

Context, context. In this post, the reference to a .500 bowl record as bolded just can't be true as stated - I'm don't follow much college ball, but I'll take the time to find and list numerous coaches with worse records. If you, perhaps, meant for a Power 5 coach, or one with 18 bowls in a row, maybe you're closer to correct. The reference to a championship in 2000 as completely meaningless is also incorrect, when the post to which I referred was

every time they went to the big bowl games they got exposed as dog **** every single time.

'Every single time' has to include that game, which is part of wins in (again, 'big' bowl games is subjective, but, still) Orange, Cotton, Rose, Sun (big?), Fiesta (big?), and Sugar (2).

If you're trying to say that Stoops isn't all that hot as a coach, no problem. The hyperbole just doesn't fit the narrative.
 

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For the record, Murphy will be the one selecting the new head coach.

I think "selecting" is the wrong term. Maybe Murphy will do the formal hire and public announcement. However, Murphy himself said that Brian and a committee will be involved in the hiring process. He further went on to say that they aren't going to hire a coach that Brian wasn't comfortable with. Much like Murphy may have done the physical firing of MM, I think these are decisions that Gute weighs in quite heavily on.
 
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I think "selecting" is the wrong term. Maybe Murphy will do the formal hire and public announcement. However, Murphy himself said that Brian and a committee will be involved in the hiring process. He further went on to say that they aren't going to hire a coach that Brian wasn't comfortable with. Much like Murphy may have done the physical firing of MM, I think these are decisions that Gute weighs in quite heavily on.

While some of that is true Murphy will be the one making the final decision. I can't say I like that approach by the way.
 

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While some of that is true Murphy will be the one making the final decision. I can't say I like that approach by the way.
I honestly think Gute will have more influence on the final decision of who is hired, but I have no problem with input from whomever the Packers trust has the ability to give it. Bottom line, the new HC won't be someone that either Murphy or Gute doesn't want.
 

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Context, context. In this post, the reference to a .500 bowl record as bolded just can't be true as stated - I'm don't follow much college ball, but I'll take the time to find and list numerous coaches with worse records. If you, perhaps, meant for a Power 5 coach, or one with 18 bowls in a row, maybe you're closer to correct. The reference to a championship in 2000 as completely meaningless is also incorrect, when the post to which I referred was



'Every single time' has to include that game, which is part of wins in (again, 'big' bowl games is subjective, but, still) Orange, Cotton, Rose, Sun (big?), Fiesta (big?), and Sugar (2).

If you're trying to say that Stoops isn't all that hot as a coach, no problem. The hyperbole just doesn't fit the narrative.

Yeah, fair enough, but ... Oh well kinda a moot point anyway as the man is retired and has given no indication he's going to get back in it. Riley is a new guy true and has his own name to make. Still, he needs to beat Bama to prove to me he'd be nfl material.
 

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We can't even lose correctly. The win today pushed us from a chance of a top 5 pick to 10th being the best we can do. Do we want change? Then flipping lose, get a top 5 and thank Joe for his sacrifice.

Our luck will be a throw back to Ray Rhodes type success. Or Lindy! Come on already. Our roster sucks. Our coaching is a close 2nd. Oh and great special teams play today
 

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I don’t want Rivera. Great guy,but inconsistent. I live in N.C. and if you think that Aaron did what he wanted under MM,it would be worse under Rivera. Cam gets a free pass to do what he likes,good or bad. I would love for Rivera to be a DC,but not a HC
 
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