Post MM firing -- coaching search: who we want -- ALL threads merged

[gbgary]

Yeah, part of the problem is scheming guys open. Another part is getting Rodgers to go through his reads.

they're getting open now, he's just not throwing it. when he does it's going over their heads or going into the ground, or sidelines...unless it's to adams.

 

[Scotland Yard]

He must remember the 49ers beating us also. Maybe Murphy's leaking the idea to try to tempt him. I hope he has some other choices in mind, in case Harbaugh was serious about staying in Michigan.

But doesn't this contradict a previous statement that they weren't looking for a guy with a big ego?

Personally, I think the 'Harbaugh's ego is too big' meme is out of control. He's been nose to the grindstone at Michigan. Former NFL coach, 49-22-1 NFL record (including postseason), coached in a Super Bowl, but, not to proud to toil in the college ranks for the last four years. I think his personality fits perfect in GB.

 

[rmontro]

Personally, I think the 'Harbaugh's ego is too big' meme is out of control. He's been nose to the grindstone at Michigan. Former NFL coach, 49-22-1 NFL record (including postseason), coached in a Super Bowl, but, not to proud to toil in the college ranks for the last four years. I think his personality fits perfect in GB.

We could do worse. He's got the personality to stand up to Rodgers. He doesn't seem to stay in one place for a real long time, so he probably wouldn't match McCarthy's 13 years. It would certainly make for some interesting seasons to come. He's probably staying at Michigan though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

For what its worth, Harbaugh said this recently to Adam Schefter:

“But I’m on record right here, right now: I’m not going anywhere,” Harbaugh told Schefter. “I’m staying at Michigan. We have big plans here, and there’s a lot we want to accomplish.”

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/09/michigan-coach-jim-harbaugh-rules-out-return-to-nfl/

 

[Scotland Yard]

For what its worth, Harbaugh said this recently to Adam Schefter:

“But I’m on record right here, right now: I’m not going anywhere,” Harbaugh told Schefter. “I’m staying at Michigan. We have big plans here, and there’s a lot we want to accomplish.”

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/09/michigan-coach-jim-harbaugh-rules-out-return-to-nfl/

Understood. But, what else could he say without losing an entire recruiting class?

 

[Stanger37]

Not sure if it has been mentioned yet. But I was listening to Colin on my lunch today, James Jones was on talking. He mentioned a few things that I thought were interesting. 1) Rodgers never had a problem with "Coach Mike" JJ said Rodgers told him that the team was not performing, it had nothing to do with Coach Mike. The team wasn't making plays that were there and was surprised when MM was fired. 2) Colin said with River Boat Ron probably on the way out in Carolina because the new owner is rumored to be cleaning house. Would be the perfect coach to Rodgers and everyone needs to stop talking about bringing in an offensive mind. Rodgers is smart enough and can work with an OC. How many playoff games have the Packers lost when Rodgers doesn't even get the ball. The defense is brutal, get a defensive minded guy in there to take care of that side of the ball and let Rodgers do what he does.

I don't think I would mind Rivera, his Panther teams are consistently good throughout the years.

 

[RRyder]

Personally, I think the 'Harbaugh's ego is too big' meme is out of control. He's been nose to the grindstone at Michigan. Former NFL coach, 49-22-1 NFL record (including postseason), coached in a Super Bowl, but, not to proud to toil in the college ranks for the last four years. I think his personality fits perfect in GB.

What is that even supposed to mean? He left the NFL specifically for that job and oh yeah.... Its Michigan. Not Appalachian State

For a HC running a top college program is anything but "toiling". Same or often better money plus you have infinitely more job security

 

[swhitset]

Person with over 20,000 posts is telling everyone else around here not to get worked up. Self-awareness is a wonderful thing.

While I don’t agree with Wimm’s perspective on Pettine... I think he should be retained due to all the reasons you illustrated.... I do wonder what Wimm’s post count has to do with anything though.

 

[rmontro]

The defense is brutal, get a defensive minded guy in there to take care of that side of the ball and let Rodgers do what he does.

I don't think I would mind Rivera, his Panther teams are consistently good throughout the years.

We could do worse than Rivera. Funny how some of these guys are former Bears. A couple of things make me nervous about a defensive minded coach though:

He likely gets rid of Pettine, because he will have his own ideas about the defense. That's not so bad in and of itself, but it kind of wastes Pettine's efforts over this past season.

More importantly, the offense needs an overhaul, and a fresh perspective. The team's been mediocre or worse in points per game, red zone offense, and third down conversions. It's the lack of creativity in the offense that got McCarthy fired. The defensive coaching was addressed last year, this year's change is about the offense. I don't buy into the "bring in a defensive guy and let Rodgers run the offense" idea.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Person with over 20,000 posts is telling everyone else around here not to get worked up. Self-awareness is a wonderful thing.

It's pretty obvious I spent way too much time on the forum but I have absolutely no idea what that has to do with my point that there's no reason to get worked up about Pettine possibly being replaced.

james jones says he'd like to see 56 yr old rex ryan become the Packers new head coach. says players love him and he'd have the D in shape in no time.

Hopefully the Packers don't even consider hiring Ryan.

Ed Werder live on radio today. He said, without any qualifications, that Jim Harbaugh is Mark Murphy's #1 choice to be the Packers' next HC.

Might not be able to pry him from Michigan.

With Rodgers having only a few seasons left Harbaugh might be an interesting hire.

The main concern I have with getting a defensive minded coach is if the route running problem is going to get resolved (or whatever you want to call it). If Rodgers is going to hold the ball for seven seconds, someone had better get open.

If the Packers hire a defensive minded head coach it's a must an innovative offensive coordinator is brought along as well.

The defense is brutal, get a defensive minded guy in there to take care of that side of the ball and let Rodgers do what he does.

The defense significantly improved this season. Rodgers needs to have either a head coach or an offensive coordinator forcing him to buy into the scheme.

 

[Dantés]

One coach has is rumored to be a potential firee is Ron Rivera. Initially I was against defensive candidates, but the field of offensive guys isn't too impressive. If Carolina fires Rivera, he should be on the Packers' short list.

He's had three 11+ win seasons in Carolina and made it to a Super Bowl. His defenses have been in the top 10 in DVOA five times and once they were 11th. He comes off the Reid tree and has had two coordinators land jobs of their own. And his time in Carolina has cured him of the ultra conservative tendencies that tend to plague defensive minded head coaches.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Sometimes I hate the internet:

UFSwampaholics #GatorDNA #SwampSavages‏ @UFSwampaholics 1h1 hour ago
Breaking News - Nick Saban is leaving to take Packers job. Kirby Smart will be hired by Bama and Lane Kiffin is headed to @FootballUGA.

 

[Dantés]

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Sometimes I hate the internet:

UFSwampaholics #GatorDNA #SwampSavages‏ @UFSwampaholics 1h1 hour ago
Breaking News - Nick Saban is leaving to take Packers job. Kirby Smart will be hired by Bama and Lane Kiffin is headed to @FootballUGA.

Don't believe anything a Gator tells you...

 

[Sunshinepacker]

We could do worse. He's got the personality to stand up to Rodgers. He doesn't seem to stay in one place for a real long time, so he probably wouldn't match McCarthy's 13 years. It would certainly make for some interesting seasons to come. He's probably staying at Michigan though.

I love these "stand up to Rodgers" comments; as if Rodgers is the only QB to ever have an ego. No coach stands up to their superstars. Belichick has consistently lost to every power play that Brady has pulled in New England (forced Garropolo trade and Brady still has his strange "doctor" with the team). For those looking for a coach to "put the diva in his place", it's not going to work. Great coaches are guys that can work around the ego, not dominate it.

 

[Scotland Yard]

It's pretty obvious I spent way too much time on the forum but I have absolutely no idea what that has to do with my point that there's no reason to get worked up about Pettine possibly being replaced.

O.K., I'll explain. By using the phraseology "no reason to get worked up" you are insinuating that anyone who has stated they like Pettine and would like to see him retained is "worked up", i.e., being emotional or perhaps illogical, fretting about something unimportant.

Therefore it comes across to me that you feel yourself to be the intellectual, talking down to the rest of the "worked up" posters who are apparently worrying about trivialities. Yet, it is you who is in fact "worked up" about everything Packers 24-7 as evidenced by your +20,000 posts. Capiche? If you cannot see the hypocrisy of telling others not to get "worked up" about any Packers topic while you pound away on the keyboard to the tune of +20,000 posts, well I give up.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I love these "stand up to Rodgers" comments; as if Rodgers is the only QB to ever have an ego. No coach stands up to their superstars. Belichick has consistently lost to every power play that Brady has pulled in New England (forced Garropolo trade and Brady still has his strange "doctor" with the team). For those looking for a coach to "put the diva in his place", it's not going to work. Great coaches are guys that can work around the ego, not dominate it.

I tend to agree with you on this. Rodgers is who he is, like it or not. For those expecting a 35 year old that is already locked into the HOF, to wake up one morning and say "oh hell, I need to change who I am", are looking at it the wrong way. I don't think a new coach has to "work around" who Rodgers is, but be aware of it and how to use it as a positive. I also think a lot of these "negatives" are jumping out at Packer fans, because both Rodgers and the Packers had a bad season, so much of the media and fan speak is "why" and coming up with all the possible reasons. Sure, Rodgers isn't happy about the season or his play and wears it on his sleeve, but that is who he is. Just like he wears success on his belt. Was Rodgers a different guy 3-6 years ago? I doubt it and when your winning, any of these negative traits seem to go unnoticed.

We saw how bad the Packers were without Rodgers in 2017, this season they aren't much better and Rodgers off year with his knee didn't help. If you want to see a changed Aaron Rodgers, start winning games and that begins with better coaches, players and fewer mistakes.

 

[Dantés]

Hey now, let's not get worked up about Captain getting worked up about other posters getting worked up over Pettine, alright guys? Try to be cool cucumbers, like yours truly. Anyone who was around here after the Vikings tie game knows I take everything in stride.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Hey now, let's not get worked up about Captain getting worked up about other posters getting worked up over Pettine, alright guys? Try to be cool cucumbers, like yours truly. Anyone who was around here after the Vikings tie game knows I take everything in stride.

I remember that day fondly.....

Dud: Mike Zimmer. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: John D'Whatever it is. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Kirk Cousins. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Stefon Diggs. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Adam Thielen. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Dalvin Cook. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Kyle Rudolph. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Laquon Treadwell. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Mike Remmers. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Riley Reiff. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Tom Compton. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Brett Jones. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Rashod Hill. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Brian O'Neill. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Everson Griffen. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Danielle Hunter (girls name). He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Sheldon Richardson (nerds name). He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Linval Joseph (weird name). He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Anthony Barr. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Eric Kendricks. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Ben Gedeon. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Harrison Smith (two last names-- idiot). He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Trae Waynes. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Andrew Suckdejo. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Xavier Rhodes. He sucks and he lost.
Dud: Mackensie Alexander (6 year old girls name). He sucks and he lost.
Dud: John "my team sucks at drafting" Carlson. He sucks and he lost.

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[Dantés]

Y'all can have your own opinions, but I think that's my best work right there.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

Would Joe Lombardi, Vince Lombardi's grandson son make a good head coach?

I don't know much about him except he's Vince's grandson

 

[Scotland Yard]

I remember the tie with the Vikings, 1978, 10-10. Fran Tarkenton threw 4 INT's, but, the Packers still couldn't get the win, so, the Vikes won the division tied with GB 8-7-1. Man, I hated that.

Anyway, Phil Simms (not a fan of his, just passing along this rumor) is saying that he knows for a fact that one team is preparing a financial offer to Jim Harbaugh that will get his attention, won't say which team. If true, it would have to be GB, NYJ or CLE? Got to be in the Gruden range of $10million/yr.?

When you look at what the Packers just gave Rodgers, it does make sense to get the one coach you really want and try for that Super Bowl while there is a small window for the rest of Rodgers' career. Why piddle around with some young hot shot you got no idea if can coach an NFL team? Jim Harbaugh can.

Is Mark Murphy getting ready to spend another $80/million or more for a HC?

 

[AGreen2AJones]

Don't believe anything a Gator tells you...

Don't believe anything Nick Saban says!

 

[AGreen2AJones]

Sometimes I hate the internet:

UFSwampaholics #GatorDNA #SwampSavages‏ @UFSwampaholics 1h1 hour ago
Breaking News - Nick Saban is leaving to take Packers job. Kirby Smart will be hired by Bama and Lane Kiffin is headed to @FootballUGA.

Those Dolphin days were not so good.

 

[XPack]

Definitely yeah.

Heard their family dog might be a good QB coach too.

We should totally look into this.