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I agree with you on those holes. I would put the Packer needs in this order: CB, DL, WR, OL, EDGE.

I will say that before Sunday, our starting OL had a pretty solid season. However, as you point out, the depth wasn't there. It does sound like Myers escaped having avoided a significant ligament or bone injury. Will the Packers resign him? Not sure, but if they can get him on a $5M/season or less, I would. I think the OL need is one that you can address mid to late round and/or free agency.

I see the Packers using their first few picks in the draft on defense again. Hopefully, there will be a solid CB or DL player at #23 or #24.

Gute needs to be on the lookout for upgrading all those positions in Free Agency and I expect him to.
Well guys, a winning season in the W/L column but a very disapointing season in my book. When this year began I was hoping to see a few changes from last year.
Get rid of A Carlson and get a more reliable PK. They did that about halfway thru the season.
Move on from the J Barry Def and bring in something new and fresh. They did that too.
Based on those two changes alone GB should have gone further than last year. But we didnt!! The packers were missing something this year that held them back.
They have plenty of talent and ending the year with a top 5 Defense the only place I can look is at the top.
Do we have a HC who knows how to lead a team to elite status. Knows how to motivate the players, How to pull all the pieces together into a well defined unit, how to instill an atmospere of discipline and confidence.
Players can have a lot of talent but if they are not playing with confidence then they play stiff and 2nd guess. When they are playing with confidence they play free and unencumbered. Do we have a leader who can provide those intangibles.

I ask these questions because what I saw this year was a team that didn't live up to its potential... so I guess its fitting that our season ended where it began.... vs philly,
 

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Well guys, a winning season in the W/L column but a very disapointing season in my book. When this year began I was hoping to see a few changes from last year.
Get rid of A Carlson and get a more reliable PK. They did that about halfway thru the season.
Move on from the J Barry Def and bring in something new and fresh. They did that too.
Based on those two changes alone GB should have gone further than last year. But we didnt!! The packers were missing something this year that held them back.
They have plenty of talent and ending the year with a top 5 Defense the only place I can look is at the top.
Do we have a HC who knows how to lead a team to elite status. Knows how to motivate the players, How to pull all the pieces together into a well defined unit, how to instill an atmospere of discipline and confidence.
Players can have a lot of talent but if they are not playing with confidence then they play stiff and 2nd guess. When they are playing with confidence they play free and unencumbered. Do we have a leader who can provide those intangibles.

I ask these questions because what I saw this year was a team that didn't live up to its potential... so I guess its fitting that our season ended where it began.... vs philly,
I agree with so much of what you say. For me, LaFleur can do it. He just needs a few difference making players at a few key positions. O line, Pass rusher, and Corner. I guess maybe a go to receiver also. They have to pick better in the 1st round. He also has to take a hard look at his coaches and scouts. Special teams? I agree he has to get a handle on mental errors of the players. Some different type of coaches should be able to handle that. That said, I like your post.
 
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Greg Olson absolutely NAILED my thoughts on the difference between a HC that is also the play caller and a HC that doesn't call plays. It starts up around the 1:58 mark. I hope someone sends this to Matt and Gute. Olson hammers my point home around the 2:20 mark.

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Today's game is about what I expected. It got out of hand due to injuries. The Eagles were a better team going in, and losing 3 important cogs in the offense destroyed the team's ability to move the ball effectively. Kraft & Jacobs played well. Jury is out on Love. I just don't see that "star power" some people believe is there. Maybe next year. I see an average QB at best. A QB who has problems making his reads, and misses seeing way too many receivers who are open.

The defense played very well. Nixon had control of that kickoff while lying on his back. The video from the sky cam proved it. Apparently, the officials don't use that camera. If they did, they blew it. When the Eagles scored that early TD it took the wind out of the Packers on both sides of the ball.

The Packers should be a better team next year. That's what matters.
We observed our team but looking at the Eagles here is what I saw:
They knew Hurts was coming back after missing several games. They also deciphered the season opener with these teams. They knew both teams are better than they were in WK 1. Their game plan was to run the football and pass conservatively. If you recall in WK 1 Hurts threw 2 picks that proved costly, one to McKinney and one to Jaire. That was the one way we might beat them. They knew if they could get us out of our run game enough they would force Love to win the game. It paid off.
Had the Packer offense been able to produce points it would have caused the Eagles to take more aggressive shots down the field thus giving our secondary a chance to make plays. The Eagles were in no way going to let Hurts throw 43 passes like Sam Darnold to win the game.
 

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We observed our team but looking at the Eagles here is what I saw:
They knew Hurts was coming back after missing several games. They also deciphered the season opener with these teams. They knew both teams are better than they were in WK 1. Their game plan was to run the football and pass conservatively. If you recall in WK 1 Hurts threw 2 picks that proved costly, one to McKinney and one to Jaire. That was the one way we might beat them. They knew if they could get us out of our run game enough they would force Love to win the game. It paid off.
Had the Packer offense been able to produce points it would have caused the Eagles to take more aggressive shots down the field thus giving our secondary a chance to make plays. The Eagles were in no way going to let Hurts throw 43 passes like Sam Darnold to win the game.
 
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The Rams D did what GB couldnt do. They were able to get tremendous pressure on the vikes and destroyed them.

For those Packer fans wanting to say "We beat the Rams and thus were a pretty good team." Nah, we beat a banged up Rams team by catching them just at the right time in the schedule. This is a much improved and healthier Rams team and it won't shock me to see them beat Philly and set up a rematch with the Lions in the NFCCG.
 

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The Rams D did what GB couldnt do. They were able to get tremendous pressure on the vikes and destroyed them.
Quite an improvement from their first half of the season. The Rams get healthy and so did Stafford. And their D strategy against Minny worked. I could not fathom the Packers playing man coverage against JJ and Co. Whenever we did that they ate us alive. Congrats to them. In Philly their D will face more of a rushing offense.
 

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Quite an improvement from their first half of the season. The Rams get healthy and so did Stafford. And their D strategy against Minny worked. I could not fathom the Packers playing man coverage against JJ and Co. Whenever we did that they ate us alive. Congrats to them. In Philly their D will face more of a rushing offense.
I saw some articles come across my screen today about MLF being on the hot seat.
I have not been his biggest fan with his need to be HC and calling plays as most annoying to me. There are many other reasons you can put in there, bad game time decisions, poor clock management, team not prepared and I'm sure others will have their own peeves.
I didnt feel any of these thing were earth shattering, cant be fixed kind of things so why I asked did I catch myself breathing a sigh of relief when I saw those articles.
As I thought about this I came to realize my fear was that we might be caught in the pretty good season trap.
That is what happened to the eagles When Andy Reid was coach. Reid was the HC for 14 years and just about every season was pretty good, successful enough to keep the fans interested, hopeful, and giving them something to cheer about every sunday. That was trap. Their successful seasons put them in the pretty good category every year but never good enough to win a SB and with their yearly success they were always low on the totem poll for draft picks. A vicious cycle continuously repeating over and over.
They did make it to one SB in those 14 years, a losing effort, but mostly every season they were caught in that pretty good tier , never breaking out to the top tier region.
Reid was a good coach but just not the right coach for the eagles.
It was only when he took over at KC did he find the right fit.
Right now thats how I look at MLF, a good coach no doubt, with the 2nd most amount wins in his tenure , only behind george seifert, but maybe not the right one for GB.
 
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I saw some articles come across my screen today about MLF being on the hot seat.
I have not been his biggest fan with his need to be HC and calling plays as most annoying to me. There are many other reasons you can put in there, bad game time decisions, poor clock management, team not prepared and I'm sure others will have their own peeves.
I didnt feel any of these thing were earth shattering, cant be fixed kind of things so why I asked did I catch myself breathing a sigh of relief when I saw those articles.
As I thought about this I came to realize my fear was that we might be caught in the pretty good season trap.
That is what happened to the eagles When Andy Reid was coach. Reid was the HC for 14 years and just about every season was pretty good, successful enough to keep the fans interested, hopeful, and giving them something to cheer about every sunday. That was trap. Their successful seasons put them in the pretty good category every year but never good enough to win a SB and with their yearly success they were always low on the totem poll for draft picks. A vicious cycle continuously repeating over and over.
They did make it to one SB in those 14 years, a losing effort, but mostly every season they were caught in that pretty good tier , never breaking out to the top tier region.
Reid was a good coach but just not the right coach for the eagles.
It was only when he took over at KC did he find the right fit.
Right now thats how I look at MLF, a good coach no doubt, with the 2nd most amount wins in his tenure , only behind george seifert, but maybe not the right one for GB.

It's the offseason for 24 teams, the media and fan base of each need things to talk about. More importantly, they want the clicks. I'm sure some Minnesota writers and fans are already talking about O'Connell needing to be replaced.

Basically, do a Google search with any teams name and a hot topic or big name trade/free agents name and somebody probably wrote about it.

I don't see LeFleur getting fired and think it would be a dumb move to do so. Convincing him to hand over the play sheet seems to be the logical and probably most drastic move we will see out of GB this winter.
 

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It's the offseason for 24 teams, the media and fan base of each need things to talk about. More importantly, they want the clicks. I'm sure some Minnesota writers and fans are already talking about O'Connell needing to be replaced.

Basically, do a Google search with any teams name and a hot topic or big name trade/free agents name and somebody probably wrote about it.

I don't see LeFleur getting fired and think it would be a dumb move to do so. Convincing him to hand over the play sheet seems to be the logical and probably most drastic move we will see out of GB this winter.
McConnell is a very good coach. He will be there a while. And so will MLF. Unless you start seeing seasons like the Bears have had that will not change.
Remember that Lovie was in Chicago for like 9 seasons. Had good Ds but came up short even in the SB.
Campbell, McConnell, and MLF will be here in our division. Throw in MM and it will seem like old times!
 

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It's the offseason for 24 teams, the media and fan base of each need things to talk about. More importantly, they want the clicks. I'm sure some Minnesota writers and fans are already talking about O'Connell needing to be replaced.

Basically, do a Google search with any teams name and a hot topic or big name trade/free agents name and somebody probably wrote about it.

I don't see LeFleur getting fired and think it would be a dumb move to do so. Convincing him to hand over the play sheet seems to be the logical and probably most drastic move we will see out of GB this winter.
I can see you are the voice of reason in the typical post season turmoil for the teams that were knocked out.
 
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I can see you are the voice of reason in the typical post season turmoil for the teams that were knocked out.
A voice that is often times wrong. ;)

I think those fans that have "survived" the last 20 or so years of the internet swill, which seems to ramp up each year, brace themselves for the offseason dance of the NFL media frenzy. By early March, many fans are so hungry for anything NFL, they will grasp at any crumb of conjecture about their favorite team. I think those are the fans that get disappointed when their team doesn't sign 5 of the top Free agents or draft their favorite guys. Still though, those same fans somehow begin the season in Sept. believing that this is the year their team will win the Super Bowl.

Me, I'm just happy sifting through all the noise, hoping for 17 entertaining Packer games and if I get a few bonus ones thrown in at the end, even better.
 

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I saw some articles come across my screen today about MLF being on the hot seat.
I have not been his biggest fan with his need to be HC and calling plays as most annoying to me. There are many other reasons you can put in there, bad game time decisions, poor clock management, team not prepared and I'm sure others will have their own peeves.
I didnt feel any of these thing were earth shattering, cant be fixed kind of things so why I asked did I catch myself breathing a sigh of relief when I saw those articles.
As I thought about this I came to realize my fear was that we might be caught in the pretty good season trap.
That is what happened to the eagles When Andy Reid was coach. Reid was the HC for 14 years and just about every season was pretty good, successful enough to keep the fans interested, hopeful, and giving them something to cheer about every sunday. That was trap. Their successful seasons put them in the pretty good category every year but never good enough to win a SB and with their yearly success they were always low on the totem poll for draft picks. A vicious cycle continuously repeating over and over.
They did make it to one SB in those 14 years, a losing effort, but mostly every season they were caught in that pretty good tier , never breaking out to the top tier region.
Reid was a good coach but just not the right coach for the eagles.
It was only when he took over at KC did he find the right fit.
Right now thats how I look at MLF, a good coach no doubt, with the 2nd most amount wins in his tenure , only behind george seifert, but maybe not the right one for GB.
I think MLF is still secure secure going into next season. If his performance, however, is as bad in 2025 as it was in 2024 then he may indeed be on the hot seat. In no way will he be canned before next season.
 
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