Packers VS Eagles Playoffs

[chemist]

Going to be honest, I've never really understood why "offsetting" penalties aren't at bare minimum calculated for the difference - it seems kinda ridiculous to me that a 15-yard penalty can be offset by a 5-yard or 10 yard one, for instance.

Similarly for "overhauls" I think the way that "half the distance to the goal" is handled is kind of odd. If you're on offense at your own 10-yard line and get called for a hold, it effectively turns what is typically a 10-yard penalty into a 5-yard one. Do it again and it's a 2.5-yard penalty. I dunno, call me crazy, but I'd do away with "half the distance" entirely. If you're within 5/10/15 yards of the goal line and get called for a 5/10/15 yard penalty...just put the ball on the goal line. It doesn't make sense to me that the closer you get to the goal line the less punishing a penalty effectively becomes...

Yes.....there are many things that come from rhe NFL office that make no sense.
The worst to me is a bad call that is obvious to everyone else but oblivious to them.

Even after the NFL reviewed the first play in the eagles game they still didnt get it right. They did finally admit the helmet to helmet contact was a penalty but after that the replay clearly showed that nixon had possession of the ball while lying on his back on the ground with the ball on his belly and his arm on the ball meaning at that point he is down. What ever happens after that is irrelevant. Somehow They were blind to that

 

[gopkrs]

Going to be honest, I've never really understood why "offsetting" penalties aren't at bare minimum calculated for the difference - it seems kinda ridiculous to me that a 15-yard penalty can be offset by a 5-yard or 10 yard one, for instance.

Similarly for "overhauls" I think the way that "half the distance to the goal" is handled is kind of odd. If you're on offense at your own 10-yard line and get called for a hold, it effectively turns what is typically a 10-yard penalty into a 5-yard one. Do it again and it's a 2.5-yard penalty. I dunno, call me crazy, but I'd do away with "half the distance" entirely. If you're within 5/10/15 yards of the goal line and get called for a 5/10/15 yard penalty...just put the ball on the goal line. It doesn't make sense to me that the closer you get to the goal line the less punishing a penalty effectively becomes...

Maybe lose a down? But they are already in a big hole

 

[Firethorn1001]

Going to be honest, I've never really understood why "offsetting" penalties aren't at bare minimum calculated for the difference - it seems kinda ridiculous to me that a 15-yard penalty can be offset by a 5-yard or 10 yard one, for instance.

Similarly for "overhauls" I think the way that "half the distance to the goal" is handled is kind of odd. If you're on offense at your own 10-yard line and get called for a hold, it effectively turns what is typically a 10-yard penalty into a 5-yard one. Do it again and it's a 2.5-yard penalty. I dunno, call me crazy, but I'd do away with "half the distance" entirely.

Primarily a thought exercise since the NFL wouldn't do anything.

Would agree with the calculation on the offset. Of course some fans wouldn't like that there is math involved suddenly.

The assess the full up to the goal line I can see why they don't do it. You are essentially pushing the ball to the 1. Not sure I'd want the offense on the 6, Defense does offsides then moves to the 1. Would almost need to see the numbers on how many times that would happen to judge impact.

I'd almost wish that if the D is assessed half the distance then if the offense commits a penalty in that series of downs then that one is assessed 1/2 to counter the D's half. O is on the 6, D does an offsides goes from 6 to 3. Then next play, offense has illegal motion (5 yards) so goes from 3 back to 6. Right now, D can commit and infinite number of penalties to get the ball no closer than an inch away from the goal line, but O does a holding call its moved 10 yards.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Yes.....there are many things that come from rhe NFL office that make no sense.
The worst to me is a bad call that is obvious to everyone else but oblivious to them.

Even after the NFL reviewed the first play in the eagles game they still didnt get it right. They did finally admit the helmet to helmet contact was a penalty but after that the replay clearly showed that nixon had possession of the ball while lying on his back on the ground with the ball on his belly and his arm on the ball meaning at that point he is down. What ever happens after that is irrelevant. Somehow They were blind to that

I'm surprised the NFLPA doesn't push hard to do away with these post game fines based on penalties that weren't called on the field. Sorry, you didn't call it so, that is a NFL/NFLRA issue.

 

[Magooch]

Right now, D can commit and infinite number of penalties to get the ball no closer than an inch away from the goal line, but O does a holding call its moved 10 yards.

Yeah, that's kind of the problem I'm getting at. If the offense is goal-to-go, in theory the defense can pin their ears back and try and jump the snap every time and there's next to no penalty at some point. But it's kind of true on the opposite end of the field as well: say you're backed up towards your own end-zone. If you've got the ball on the 9-yard line and your OL gets called for a hold, it's only a ~4.5 yard penalty. In the same way (so long as your OL isn't actually getting *into* the end zone), there's arguably an incentive for your OL to hold more in these situations as the closer you are to your own goal line the less of a punishment there is. If you're on the 5-yard line and you're faced with a situation where it's a.) allow a pressure or b.) take a 2.5-yard penalty, you'll pick "b" every time. But if your options are a.) allow a pressure or b.) take a penalty that puts the ball right up against your own goal line, that's perhaps a tougher decision. I dunno. Just thinking out loud; I don't think there's really any clear solution but I guess ultimately what I'm saying is that I don't care for how it makes the consequence for various penalties more/less impactful depending on which yard-line of the field you're inside of.