Packers @ Lions Pre-Game (Thurs Night)

[Pugger]

Stranger things have happened. However, I cannot see the Lions or Philly losing to any of their first opponents. The NFC South and West winners could go in the first round. The Vikings are the one team who could pull off an upset because of their experienced defense and their receiving corps. But history just never seems to be on their side.

Yes, I don't see the Lions or Philly losing either but if we had the top WC seed would we host a game on WC weekend?

 

[Poppa San]

if we had the top WC seed would we host a game on WC weekend?

NO. WC weekend hosts are the 3 division champions.

 

[Thirteen Below]

Yes, I don't see the Lions or Philly losing either but if we had the top WC seed would we host a game on WC weekend?

No, not anymore. But we could (theoretically) host games in either or both the divisional and conference rounds. But I think the only way that can happen is if all three division leaders lose before the playoffs get to that point.

Prior to 2020, though, a #4 seed could host a wild card game. I don't know if a wild card team ever did host another WC team, but I'm pretty sure I remember recently reading that it never happened.

 

[Voyageur]

An interesting perspective on records. Assuming the Vikings win today, the division will have a 30-6 record. The Lions lost to the Buccaneers, the Vikings lost to the Rams, and the Packers lost to the Eagles. The other three losses, one by the Vikings to the Lions, and the Packers, one each to the Lions and Vikings. That means the three combined are actually 30-3 on games outside the division, and there are circumstances surrounding all three of those losses that contributed to them happening.

I don't recall ever seeing a division this strong in the past to be honest. If the Packers do beat the Lions and the Vikings, and run the table, and the Vikings beat the Lions, and lost to the Packers, and run the rest of the table, and the Lions lose the two aforementioned games, and run the table, there would be a 3 way tie, with matching head to head records, so it would come down to points scored to determine 1st through 3rd place, and it could easily be the 3 best records in the whole NFL.

As for the Bears, they've lost 5 out of division games to date, of their 4-8 record. Throw the in-division losses out, and they'd be 4-5 outside the division, which is only one step below average.

An amazing season for the division.

 

[Schultz]

Great stats and great point. I do believe you forgot to subtract the inter division wins when calculating the outside the division record.

 

[OldSchool101]

If the Packers do beat the Lions and the Vikings, and run the table, and the Vikings beat the Lions, and lost to the Packers, and run the rest of the table, and the Lions lose the two aforementioned games, and run the table, there would be a 3 way tie, with matching head to head records, so it would come down to points scored to determine 1st through 3rd place

It is amazing. There’s zero question this is the best NFC North Division ever. The Lions have never Won 10 consecutive AND Never started 11-1. Never.

The Packers are +1 on head to head over Vikings. We beat the Rams and Vikes lost to the Rams. We both play Seattle coming up, but assuming your scenario and we Win out and the Division records were identical?
the Packers would be +1 over MN (LA)

This is why today’s Arizona game is critical. If Arizona Wins we go +2 as we beat Arizona. Our destiny over Vikings relies on us and us alone. Meaning We don’t need favors from other teams. Just Win.

Arizona is up 13 over MN 3rd qtr and The Cardinals are playing some big time Defense and have held Vikings to 87 yards thus far in the closing minutes of the 3rd Qtr.

 

[milani]

It is amazing. There’s zero question this is the best NFC North Division ever. The Lions have never Won 10 AND Never started 11-1. Never.

The Packers are +1 on head to head over Vikings. We beat the Rams and Vikes lost to the Rams. We both play Seattle coming up, but assuming your scenario and we Win out and the Division records were identical?
the Packers would be +1 over MN (LA)

This is why today’s Arizona game is critical. If Arizona Wins we go +2 as we beat Arizona. Our destiny over Vikings relies on us and us alone. Meaning We don’t need favors from other teams. Just Win.

Arizona is up 13 over MN 3rd qtr and The Cardinals are playing some big time Defense and have held Vikings to 87 yards thus far in the closing minutes of the 3rd Qtr.

In 1962 the Lions were 11-2 going into the final week of the regular season. The Packers were 12-1. The Lions were playing the Bears in Chicago. The Packers were playing the Rams in LA. The Lions needed to beat the Bears and hope we sputtered on the Coast. Since our game started 2 hours later we watched the scoreboard as the Bears pulled off a 3-0 upset of the Lions. It was a season in which no one could sleep.

 

[OldSchool101]

In 1962 the Lions were 11-2 going into the final week of the regular season. The Packers were 12-1. The Lions were playing the Bears in Chicago. The Packers were playing the Rams in LA. The Lions needed to beat the Bears and hope we sputtered on the Coast. Since our game started 2 hours later we watched the scoreboard as the Bears pulled off a 3-0 upset of the Lions. It was a season in which no one could sleep.

Back to those Division games bringing a level of unpredictable.

 

[OldSchool101]

I’m watching Arizona. If Arizona can eat another 2 minutes and score a TD I think they will win. Cmon!

 

[OldSchool101]

6-0 Arizona over MN

Vikings get the ball with 3 minutes in 4 down territory. They MUST get a TD to Win.m

There it is. Arizona pretended to be the Bears and gave it away

 

[Pugger]

I’m watching Arizona. If Arizona can eat another 2 minutes and score a TD I think they will win. Cmon!

Leave it to the Cardinals to find another way to lose...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Did Gibbs social media post "accidentally" give the Packers an advantage?

Or....was this done "intentionally", with fake calls, to brilliantly dupe the Packers?

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[OldSchool101]

Did Gibbs social media post "accidentally" give the Packers an advantage?

Or....was this done "intentionally", with fake calls, to brilliantly dupe the Packers?

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Either way it’s all scrapped plans now. He’s an idiot if those were real plays because they’ll get scrapped. Dan looked legit ticked off. I think his neck got red and swelled as he was leaving. Lol

 

[PackerDNA]

It occurred to me watching the games yesterday that we could finish 14-3 and not have a home playoff game as a wild card.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It occurred to me watching the games yesterday that we could finish 14-3 and not have a home playoff game as a wild card.

Yup and possibly have to play a .500 team in their stadium.

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[tynimiller]

It occurred to me watching the games yesterday that we could finish 14-3 and not have a home playoff game as a wild card.

Nature of the beast - been many times where a "better record" team has to travel to a team hosting...

Actually come to think I believe GB hosted a playoff game in that situation not too long ago. 2013 8-7-1 Packers hosted 12-4 Niners

 

[JKramer64]

In 2011, the 7-9 Seattle hosted the 11-5 Saints in the wild card and beat them. The Marshawn Lynch game.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'd be fine with a 2010 like playoff run. Win all the playoff games on the road and top it off with a Super Bowl win. The Packers were 10-6 that season and from what I remember, had a lot of injuries early, but got pretty healthy by the time the playoffs rolled around. They also became the first team to have never lost a game by more than four points, and never trailed by more than seven the entire season.

 

[Schultz]

Just saw that the Lions are 3.5 point favorites.

 

[tynimiller]

Just saw that the Lions are 3.5 point favorites.

About what I'd have expected, but wouldn't have been shocked if bigger.

 

[AmishMafia]

Either way it’s all scrapped plans now. He’s an idiot if those were real plays because they’ll get scrapped. Dan looked legit ticked off. I think his neck got red and swelled as he was leaving. Lol

The damage has been done. The Packers should be able to see how the Lions plan to attack their defense. These plays were probably their best plays that accomplished that. I suspect they will still run similar plays and we should have a small leg up on defending them.

 

[Magooch]

It occurred to me watching the games yesterday that we could finish 14-3 and not have a home playoff game as a wild card.

I was thinking of this too. I haven't walked through all the tiebreakers so I'm not sure exactly how the standings/seeding would shake out but by my count it wouldn't be inconceivable to see all three of Detroit, Minnesota, and GB finish 14-3.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just saw that the Lions are 3.5 point favorites.

If I was a betting man and I am, I would put money on the Lions covering that.

Of course, I never bet for or against the Packers or on any Pro Sports.

 

[milani]

The damage has been done. The Packers should be able to see how the Lions plan to attack their defense. These plays were probably their best plays that accomplished that. I suspect they will still run similar plays and we should have a small leg up on defending them.

We play each other twice a year. There are no real secrets. The last game was dictated to some extent by the weather. This time the game plan will have nothing to do with the elements.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Gotta love Campbell!

Dan Campbell on Jahmyr Gibbs posting a photo: “I don’t really give a crap. If we’re gonna lose because of code words, then we’re not good enough anyway. I think we’ll just post the whole freaking playbook and every code word we’ve got. It doesn’t matter. It’s not gonna hurt us.”