Packers free agent rumors?

[Pokerbrat2000]

I would need proof

Ask Commissioner Gordon.

 

[PackerDNA]

Ted is a master of what he does. I think changing his model would be a mistake...
But not bringing in Randy Moss????? That logic is broken IMO. He mussed up there. Marshawn Lynch too... he could have been better in free agency...

Change his model, no. Add on to- 'flesh out'- yes.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

This has been a point of contention now and then.
Could I or anyone else just show up at 1265, plop down in Ted's chair and do his job well? Of course not; we wouldn't even know where the bathrooms are.
But had I had the opportunity, decided it's what I wanted to do, and pursued it to the best of my ability, ending up as an NFL GM, there is no doubt in my mind I'd have been a very good one.

How is it that you can say this about yourself being a very good GM given the opportunity. And then you jump on the bandwagon saying I couldnt? This concept funny to you?
Must be so nice to be better than other people... By the way. Act like that in a business where everyone is a millionaire. And you will be douschified out of the building. Mutual respect. Leaders have it.

 

[PackerDNA]

How is it that you can say this about yourself being a very good GM given the opportunity. And then you jump on the bandwagon saying I couldnt? This concept funny to you?
Must be so nice to be better than other people... By the way. Act like that in a business where everyone is a millionaire. And you will be douschified out of the building. Mutual respect. Leaders have it.

WTF are you talking about? Where did I say you couldn't? What bandwagon? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

*to the Bat pole!*

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

WTF are you talking about? Where did I say you couldn't? What bandwagon? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????

Amish Mafia calls me out for basicly embarassing myself. And you feel that was worth calling a funny statement...

What was funny about calling me a embarassment?

 

[PackerDNA]

Amish Mafia calls me out for basicly embarassing myself. And you feel that was worth calling a funny statement...

What was funny about calling me a embarassment?

Not my intent to call you anything, Eli. What Amish posted- how he said it- struck me funny. Not meant to knock you.

 

[sschind]

We will need the picks more next year, when we lose some of our core guys...this year is Peppers/Sitton/Langs possible last run in GB... (id like to see Peppers back part time specialist type contract)

The time to get players is before you need them. Do you really want to ignore the guard position this year, lose Sitton and Lang next year and HAVE to go shopping in FA or the rely on draft picks. Take a couple of guards in the 4th round and if they develop you have some options with Sitton and Lang next season. The problem is do you have the roster space. We have Tretter, Rotterham, Taylor and Walker listed as our backup guards I think Tretter would be a decent replacement for either Sitton or Lang but I hate to lose his versatility as a backup if an equally talented guard were available. Rotterham has the size to be intriguing but I don't know much about him. I'm not sure that Taylor and Walker can't be replaced in the draft with a couple of early day three picks

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

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[GreenBaySlacker]

The time to get players is before you need them. Do you really want to ignore the guard position this year, lose Sitton and Lang next year and HAVE to go shopping in FA or the rely on draft picks. Take a couple of guards in the 4th round and if they develop you have some options with Sitton and Lang next season. The problem is do you have the roster space. We have Tretter, Rotterham, Taylor and Walker listed as our backup guards I think Tretter would be a decent replacement for either Sitton or Lang but I hate to lose his versatility as a backup if an equally talented guard were available. Rotterham has the size to be intriguing but I don't know much about him. I'm not sure that Taylor and Walker can't be replaced in the draft with a couple of early day three picks

Got to agree. The list you posted , of our back up Olinemen is concerning, to say the least... Tretter, then thats it. And Tretter isnt much of a T. Best we have but still well below average IMO. The fact we paid Taylor what we did, has me questioning where we are going here... He sucks IMO.
On my "Amish Mafia packers draft contest" board. I have all sorts of large OTs who have questions on ability to keep up with speed rushers at the NFL level... They would be Guards for us... yes I expect both Sitton and Lang to be gone next year... and would be drafting at least 3 Big OTs to compete for the guard spots next year. Its a big deal.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

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I assume you are referring to willie Beaver, OT 6'4 321 from Western Michigan???
And you think i would be a crappy GM? lol. You havnt even seen the tip of the ice burg, when it comes to my OCD. lol

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And you think i would be a crappy GM? lol. You havnt even seen the tip of the ice burg, when it comes to my OCD. lol

Don't worry Eli, I think I would be as equally of a crappy GM as you.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Don't worry Eli, I think I would be as equally of a crappy GM as you.

Randy Moss to GB... That would net me same amount of superbowls as ted... Lynch for a damn 4th rounder?!?!?!? when we didnt have a RB and and and and and SEATTLE gets the rings... grrrr.

 

[Half Empty]

Change his model, no. Add on to- 'flesh out'- yes.

Ah, my love affair with semantics in a sports forum. If one adds on to their model, they've changed it.

 

[PackerDNA]

Ah, my love affair with semantics in a sports forum. If one adds on to their model, they've changed it.

I often have an overwhelming urge to strangle people who love semantics.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

I often have an overwhelming urge to strangle people who love semantics.

I think that is what we need. Thompson built the structure. And the structure can not be changed. Cap rules. Draft philosophy. Player development. Idea of keeping our players and coaches together if at all possible, giving in to the idea that chemistry is just as valuable as pure tallent in many situations. This is what got us to be perenial contenders....
But there also seems to be a plateau effect when he is unwilling to break the rules EVER! Opportunities that could have really opened up our potential as a team, were missed. Seemingly not even considered, or never given a legit opportunity to succeed. Had we made a couple of these moves, I think we win a couple more rings in the last 9 years....

Needs a little tweaking... This year is a bad year for that. Next year we will be forced to tweak things...So i guess it isnt really something you can do on a feeling. It needs to be considered on every contract signed, and the plan can not be changed after the fact. Dead cap is unacceptable in this game.

 

[PackerDNA]

I think that is what we need. Thompson built the structure. And the structure can not be changed. Cap rules. Draft philosophy. Player development. Idea of keeping our players and coaches together if at all possible, giving in to the idea that chemistry is just as valuable as pure tallent in many situations. This is what got us to be perenial contenders....
But there also seems to be a plateau effect when he is unwilling to break the rules EVER! Opportunities that could have really opened up our potential as a team, were missed. Seemingly not even considered, or never given a legit opportunity to succeed. Had we made a couple of these moves, I think we win a couple more rings in the last 9 years....

Needs a little tweaking... This year is a bad year for that. Next year we will be forced to tweak things...So i guess it isnt really something you can do on a feeling. It needs to be considered on every contract signed, and the plan can not be changed after the fact. Dead cap is unacceptable in this game.

This. I'd made a self imposed glass ceiling analogy not long ago. Too rigid, too risk averse. Even the Cook signing- which I gave 2 thumbs up to- was safe. I don't believe he'd have even done that if it weren't.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Take a couple of guards in the 4th round and if they develop you have some options with Sitton and Lang next season. The problem is do you have the roster space. We have Tretter, Rotterham, Taylor and Walker listed as our backup guards I think Tretter would be a decent replacement for either Sitton or Lang but I hate to lose his versatility as a backup if an equally talented guard were available. Rotterham has the size to be intriguing but I don't know much about him. I'm not sure that Taylor and Walker can't be replaced in the draft with a couple of early day three picks

It seems the Packers front office and the coaching staff have faith in Lane Taylor becoming a decent starter, otherwise the contract he was signed to wouldn't make any sense. With the team increasing Rotheram's salary to a level equally to a rookie on the active roster midway through last season indicates they think highly of him as well.

With that being said and Tretter becoming a free agent next offseason the Packers should select at least one guard prospect during this year's draft as well as depth at tackle.

Walker is just a guy and I don't expect him to make the roster this year.

 

[Carl]

I´m absolutely convinced some of us would have been able to do a better job than Thompson addressing the inside linebacker position over the last four years.

At the same time, the rest of team would have gotten worse with any of us.

 

[Half Empty]

At the same time, the rest of team would have gotten worse with any of us.

And you know this because...?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

At the same time, the rest of team would have gotten worse with any of us.

Most likely true but there's no denying Thompson has been way too slow to address several positions of need over the past few years. Most of the armchair GMs around here would have tried to improve safety, tight end and inside linebacker more aggressively over that period.

 

[sschind]

After watching Ted for almost a decade. Being a mathematical person, and a football addict. I could deffinately compete on the stage. Thats where Teds genius lies though. He did it first. set up solid rules. Lived by them. and in a extremely conservative way, has built a perenial contender. Most the GMs in the NFL are trying to copy us now.... Copying is easy. Some of us could deffinately step in and keep the ball rolling respectably. But put together a business plan against 31 other billion dollar franchises, and succeed??? Not likely.

I honestly think the GB brass has feelers out, here. As well as the media. Which one of you is Demovsky??? They would be dumb to not listen to, and gauge the Greenbay fans... We know our football. And indirectly have a say in what really happens out there on the field... Just dont get to make actual decisions. I have believed this for many years. I read one of my amazingly witty one liner WORD FOR WORD on an article, years back...Thats when I found out for sure... no BS.

We've seen some of your suggestions Eli. Don't quit your day job.

 

[sschind]

It seems the Packers front office and the coaching staff have faith in Lane Taylor becoming a decent starter, otherwise the contract he was signed to wouldn't make any sense. With the team increasing Rotheram's salary to a level equally to a rookie on the active roster midway through last season indicates they think highly of him as well.

With that being said and Tretter becoming a free agent next offseason the Packers should select at least one guard prospect during this year's draft as well as depth at tackle.

Walker is just a guy and I don't expect him to make the roster this year.

I forgot about Tretter being a FA. That makes at least two OL picks even more essential IMO. They may like Taylor and Rotherham but if they expect them to slide into the starter roles they definitely need some backups. I'm sure they have not entirely ruled out bringing Sitton OR Lang or even both of them back but I think conventional wisdom says at least one will be gone. I really hope they bring Tretter back. I like what he offers as a backup backup at center and guard.

I also looked ahead to 2018 Jeff Janis is an UFA then and if we want to keep him that will cost a boatload.

 

[PikeBadger]

Under those circumstances, it'd certainly be a lot tougher. What I meant was that, if some of us were to be plunked down in the GM's seat, WITH all the advantages he has in terms of information and staff, I see no reason there couldn't be positive results. As I've noted before, I certainly couldn't even pretend to be able to do the players' jobs, but GMing is a matter of mental processes, and, certainly in particular areas, TT hasn't shown himself to be that much more capable.

That means your 31 peers would consider you elite. When he became GM, Thompson had to put the pieces in place. I maintain he has done a much better job than anyone on this forum would have. Purely speculation on my part however.

 

[Poppa San]

I'm sure Matt Millen, Daniel Snyder, Jerruh Jones all feel the same way about how easy it is to GM a pro football team.