Packers and Aaron Rodgers agree on 3 yr 150 mill

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Am I reading it right that all 150 is guaranteed?

Technically just over 100M is guaranteed....but yes he is getting the 150M so long as he plays the first three years. However should he retire at any point in this the lowest hit we feel that following year is $75M to the cap. Here's to hoping we win the SB, because if not it could be a new dark era in Green Bay after.
 
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It's included on Spotrac and they've been very much on top of things past couple days - OTC has been very off lately I've noticed. If Rodgers move saves us $18M - Spotrac also shows about $2M yet to gain - which Cobb told folks he was reworking his deal and should easily make that up.

Notice the big fish out there is still an extension for Jaire which could save as much as 5-8M.

The Packers could save close to $10 million by extending Alexander's contract.

Even if Rodgers plays out his contract in 2022, 2023 and 2024 and retires.....76M will hit our cap in 2025. 76M.....I suspect that relatively speaking with cap increases would be like having to take a $45M-$55M hit this year. Insane.

I believe Spotrac might be off with those numbers. If I interpret them correctly the Packers would take a cap hit of $68.2 million in 2024 or $40.7 million in '25 if Rodgers retires either after two or three seasons.

Pat McAfee was contacted directly by Rodgers to inform people the reported $50M/year deal rumored was utterly false. It was stressed multiple times and directly from Rodgers. Pat has Aaron's trust because he doesn't inflate or deflate ANYTHING Rodgers gives him ever.

Actually, it's a five-year, $186.75 million deal averaging $37.35 million per season.
 

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Actually, it's a five-year, $186.75 million deal averaging $37.35 million per season.

Nope, I in zero way will agree to word it as such. It is a three year deal of actual years and then that fourth and fifth "in there years purely for spreading hit". I want to download the actual contract because folks I trust vastly more than myself for cap and contract stuff like Mike Tannenbaum and others more familiar with it all keep saying it was a three year deal, two year extension to the existing 2023 with two placeholder years in 2024 and 2025.

I'm confused somewhat to those fourth and fifth years as they don't appear to be "void years" as we have seen lately, but also then appear to be being discussed in that manner...
 

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Nope, I in zero way will agree to word it as such. It is a three year deal of actual years and then that fourth and fifth "in there years purely for spreading hit". I want to download the actual contract because folks I trust vastly more than myself for cap and contract stuff like Mike Tannenbaum and others more familiar with it all keep saying it was a three year deal, two year extension to the existing 2023 with two placeholder years in 2024 and 2025.

I'm confused somewhat to those fourth and fifth years as they don't appear to be "void years" as we have seen lately, but also then appear to be being discussed in that manner...
From what I've read, it's essentially a three year, $50 mil/year deal. Yeah there are cap adjustments and deferrals. But Cap has a point in that there are essentially two more years. If Rodgers plays three years, and I think he will, there's no money to defer to years 4 and 5, right? I may be wrong on this and maybe Cap can clear it up.
 

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Technically he has always been signed for 2022. Obviously his contract needs to be reworked for 2022 because the Packers do not have the cap space to pay it the way it is now. Everyone is assuming that he is about to sign a new multi year deal. I am not so sure …. I have a feeling that he was serious when he said retirement was on the table this year …. If so I actually think he may actually be trying to work out something that does not involve him being locked on for 3-4 years.
 

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@taylor1949 I think you're trying to reply to someone else's comment but it is shoving it all into one "quote". You have to click beneath the quote line and then type your reply
 

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3 more years without Super Bowl -
If that's the case then the Packers will have made an expensive mistake. I fully expect a SB in this timeframe. They have a talented roster around Rodgers. Time to make it happen.
 
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The narrative last spring was "well if Rodgers doesn't want to be here then to hell with him. Let him go!"

Now he commits, signs long term, has extremely favorable cap numbers for the next three seasons, and does so by knowing that keeping Davante was a long shot, and some still aren't happy.

Just interesting.
 

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The narrative last spring was "well if Rodgers doesn't want to be here then to hell with him. Let him go!"

Now he commits, signs long term, has extremely favorable cap numbers for the next three seasons, and does so by knowing that keeping Davante was a long shot, and some still aren't happy.

Just interesting.
I agree. Adams' discontent almost surely goes back to last season when he very likely wanted an extension and was probably given the cold shoulder. He was classy about it and stayed the good soldier and continued to play at another level. I'm sure he's known for at least a year he was never coming back to GB, and if he felt that way, Rodgers most certainly knew. I know Rodgers isn't happy about losing Adams, but they were both treated pretty poorly by the FO considering their talent and importance to the success of the team. Prima donnas? Sure, but they earned that right too.

I'm actually fine with the deal Gluten got for Adams. The Cardinals gave up one 2nd round pick for Hopkins. The Packers can now sign guys like MVS and Douglas, use the extra draft picks creatively to draft and trade for two new WRs, and still be in a position to draft an iDL and OL in the first or second rounds - maybe the third if they trade picks to move up.

I am disappointed because I loved watching Adams play. Great example of how hard work pays off and I wish him the best. I also appreciate that he didn't use the media to complain about his situation, unlike another player we know! He knew he was gonna get paid and it wasn't gonna be GB.

And finally, and for those who say that now we can't win a SB - that's rubbish. This is still a very talented team even after losing Adams, and will become more talented in the weeks and months to come. This might actually be a good thing for them. I mean we've lost 4 NFCCGs since the last SB. Maybe Rodgers will accept throwing a few more pics in exchange for throwing to some new. talented WRs and TEs. Just sayin' this could be good for all involved.
 

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I'm sure he's known for at least a year he was never coming back to GB, and if he felt that way, Rodgers most certainly knew. I know Rodgers isn't happy about losing Adams, but they were both treated pretty poorly by the FO considering their talent and importance to the success of the team.
Maybe the difference with Rodgers was that he's older, he's been here longer, he's more comfortable, he's more settled in. I never got the vibe that he really wanted to leave, just that he felt unappreciated.


And finally, and for those who say that now we can't win a SB - that's rubbish.
We might have beaten the 49ers this year if Dillon hadn't gotten injured and couldn't play the second half. I wouldn't say they can't win a Super Bowl, but I'm done expecting them to. I know, someone said you should never expect a team to win a Super Bowl. But they had the #1 seed two consecutive years, you'd think they could cash one of them in to at least get there. Especially since under the new rules the last few years, the #1 seed is the only team that gets a bye. But they couldn't leverage that into a couple of home wins.
 

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I agree. Adams' discontent almost surely goes back to last season when he very likely wanted an extension and was probably given the cold shoulder. He was classy about it and stayed the good soldier and continued to play at another level. I'm sure he's known for at least a year he was never coming back to GB, and if he felt that way, Rodgers most certainly knew. I know Rodgers isn't happy about losing Adams, but they were both treated pretty poorly by the FO considering their talent and importance to the success of the team. Prima donnas? Sure, but they earned that right too.

I'm actually fine with the deal Gluten got for Adams. The Cardinals gave up one 2nd round pick for Hopkins. The Packers can now sign guys like MVS and Douglas, use the extra draft picks creatively to draft and trade for two new WRs, and still be in a position to draft an iDL and OL in the first or second rounds - maybe the third if they trade picks to move up.

I am disappointed because I loved watching Adams play. Great example of how hard work pays off and I wish him the best. I also appreciate that he didn't use the media to complain about his situation, unlike another player we know! He knew he was gonna get paid and it wasn't gonna be GB.

And finally, and for those who say that now we can't win a SB - that's rubbish. This is still a very talented team even after losing Adams, and will become more talented in the weeks and months to come. This might actually be a good thing for them. I mean we've lost 4 NFCCGs since the last SB. Maybe Rodgers will accept throwing a few more pics in exchange for throwing to some new. talented WRs and TEs. Just sayin' this could be good for all involved.
I like your thinking. My hope is that they don't lose Tonyon. I don't know how the knee injury will affect his play and his marketability.
 

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I like your thinking. My hope is that they don't lose Tonyon. I don't know how the knee injury will affect his play and his marketability.
Sounds like they resigned him.

As long as the price wasn't too high, I think a smart move for both the Packers and Tonyan. He can ease his way back into an offense he knows well. If he has a great year, he cashes in on it in 2023. If he can't come back strong, the Packers hopefully didn't invest too much in him.

 

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I like your thinking. My hope is that they don't lose Tonyon. I don't know how the knee injury will affect his play and his marketability.
Thanks. Yeah I hope they resign Tonyan - maybe a one year "prove you're healthy" deal. He wasn't playing as well as the prior season when he tore his ACL. Even so he looks like the kind of split-the-seam TE the Packers have been missing since Finley. They have a big, blocking TE in the ageless Lewis. DeGuarra is still an unknown but deserves at least this year. Tonyan is the offensive TE. And TEs are critical in MLF's system so they need him back. And I think that will happen.
 

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Sounds like they resigned him.

As long as the price wasn't too high, I think a smart move for both the Packers and Tonyan. He can ease his way back into an offense he knows well. If he has a great year, he cashes in on it in 2023. If he can't come back strong, the Packers hopefully didn't invest too much in him.

I should have read all the new posts before responding to GB. Thanks Poker. This is the logical move. It probably works out best for GB, although his return is uncertain. He was developing very well and running great routes. And he catches the ball and scores a lotta TDs. Details, details.....
 
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Nope, I in zero way will agree to word it as such. It is a three year deal of actual years and then that fourth and fifth "in there years purely for spreading hit".

It doesn't matter how you want to word it. It's a fact that the deal is for five years, $186.75 million. While it's definitely uncertain if Rodgers plays out the contract that's true for a lot of deals around the league.

From what I've read, it's essentially a three year, $50 mil/year deal. Yeah there are cap adjustments and deferrals. But Cap has a point in that there are essentially two more years. If Rodgers plays three years, and I think he will, there's no money to defer to years 4 and 5, right? I may be wrong on this and maybe Cap can clear it up.

Rodgers only playing three seasons of the current deal would result in $76.8 million of dead money counting against their cap in 2025. I don't know if that was your question though.
 

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It doesn't matter how you want to word it. It's a fact that the deal is for five years, $186.75 million. While it's definitely uncertain if Rodgers plays out the contract that's true for a lot of deals around the league.



Rodgers only playing three seasons of the current deal would result in $76.8 million of dead money counting against their cap in 2025. I don't know if that was your question though.
Close enough. Wow. Well, I still think it was the right move. The question now is who he throws to......
 

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Nope, I in zero way will agree to word it as such. It is a three year deal of actual years and then that fourth and fifth "in there years purely for spreading hit". I want to download the actual contract because folks I trust vastly more than myself for cap and contract stuff like Mike Tannenbaum and others more familiar with it all keep saying it was a three year deal, two year extension to the existing 2023 with two placeholder years in 2024 and 2025.

I'm confused somewhat to those fourth and fifth years as they don't appear to be "void years" as we have seen lately, but also then appear to be being discussed in that manner...

NFL says 3 years 150

Sports Illustrated says same
 

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NFL says 3 years 150

Sports Illustrated says same
And I've seen reports that if he walks after 3 years, GB is left with $76 mil in dead cap in 2025. That sounds like a 5 year deal to me, if true.
 

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And I've seen reports that if he walks after 3 years, GB is left with $76 mil in dead cap in 2025. That sounds like a 5 year deal to me, if true.
I've seen the same number thrown around and unless spotrac is wrong, that number is way off.

If you look under the column "Dead Cap", that shows what his Dead Cap hit is, if he is cut or traded in the corresponding year shown (before roster bonus kicks in). So currently, if he was cut today, his dead cap hit would be $150.997 M. If they cut him after 3 years....in 2025 (before 4/15/25)...$16.32M.

Again, im assuming Spotrac #'s are correct.

 
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