Packers and Aaron Rodgers agree on 3 yr 150 mill

[ARPackFan]

I highly doubt Rodgers will forgo $25 million of salary to help reduce his cap hit for next season. I'm convinced that most of the base salary he was set to earn was converted into a signing bonus for the Packers to create much needed cap space though.

Your opinion may be a 100% accurate but I am not believing anything that I read or hear until the contract is signed. I do believe there is a reason why Rodgers has not signed his contract yet. Maybe he's helping Davante or waiting to see what moves the Packers make.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Your opinion may be a 100% accurate but I am not believing anything that I read or hear until the contract is signed. I do believe there is a reason why Rodgers has not signed his contract yet. Maybe he's helping Davante or waiting to see what moves the Packers make.

Exactly.

Rodgers will have an "out" as well. He may have told the Packers he is waiting to sign, when the Packers ink a new deal with Davante. If that doesn't happen, Rodgers just goes public with it and states "Like I said, I had every intention to play for the Packers, but I have said it before, I won't play on a team in rebuild. The Packers failure to come to terms with the best WR in the NFL, forced me into rethinking my staying."

 

[tynimiller]

Exactly.

Rodgers will have an "out" as well. He may have told the Packers he is waiting to sign, when the Packers ink a new deal with Davante. If that doesn't happen, Rodgers just goes public with it and states "Like I said, I had every intention to play for the Packers, but I have said it before, I won't play on a team in rebuild. The Packers failure to come to terms with the best WR in the NFL, forced me into rethinking my staying."

That would sink the team, because then his full what $46M hits the 16th and we'd have to have MASSIVE cuts to clear that - Amos, Lowry, Lewis, Crosby, Cobb, Jenkins, Dillon all cut wouldn't even be enough saved if I ran numbers right in my head. Jaire extension I'm shocked hasn't been worked out yet and look for it to drop today or early tomorrow which would be massive.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

That would sink the team, because then his full what $46M hits the 16th and we'd have to have MASSIVE cuts to clear that - Amos, Lowry, Lewis, Crosby, Cobb, Jenkins, Dillon all cut wouldn't even be enough saved if I ran numbers right in my head. Jaire extension I'm shocked hasn't been worked out yet and look for it to drop today or early tomorrow which would be massive.

Yup, like you and I both said a week or 2 ago, The Rodgers Decision decides the direction the Packers go. That decision really isn't final, until he signs on the dotted line. Problem is, the Packers have already been forced into making all their decisions, based on the assumption that Rodgers is back. Somewhere, Rodgers is smiling like a Cheshire cat.

 

[tynimiller]

Yup, like you and I both said a week or 2 ago, The Rodgers Decision decides the direction the Packers go. That decision really isn't final, until he signs on the dotted line. Problem is, the Packers have already been forced into making all their decisions, based on the assumption that Rodgers is back. Somewhere, Rodgers is smiling like a Cheshire cat.

However, I concede that none of the moves that have been done are so destructive cap wise in the future that would make it impossible to build around Love....it for sure could impact how this is conducted, but nothing yet has crossed that line for me personally.

I will at the same time concede the Preston extension depending on structure could be argued you don't do if Love is the present. You strip things down more...and not extend him.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I will at the same time concede the Preston extension depending on structure could be argued you don't do if Love is the present. You strip things down more...and not extend him.

Yup.

I can guarantee you that Gute and the Packers would be approaching the off season differently if Rodgers had said he is retiring or wants to be traded. Doesn't just include our own players, but who and how they might be approaching Free Agents during the 2 days before Free Agency.

 

[Pkrjones]

Yup, like you and I both said a week or 2 ago, The Rodgers Decision decides the direction the Packers go. That decision really isn't final, until he signs on the dotted line.

This is 100% my speculation, I have no insider at 1265 but am reading between the lines. IF AR is waiting to sign any extension until Davante is extended then hopefully Gute has plan B ready to pull the trigger. Plan B would be trading Adams' rights to another team AND AR to Pittsburgh or Seattle?

The Packers MUST be under the cap by Wed. at 3pm cdt, so ALL of the pieces must be in place, starting with AR. If AR is dragging his heels bullying Gute into a bad Adams deal then jettisoning both may be necessary.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This is 100% my speculation, I have no insider at 1265 but am reading between the lines. IF AR is waiting to sign any extension until Davante is extended then hopefully Gute has plan B ready to pull the trigger. Plan B would be trading Adams' rights to another team AND AR to Pittsburgh or Seattle?

The Packers MUST be under the cap by Wed. at 3pm cdt, so ALL of the pieces must be in place, starting with AR. If AR is dragging his heels bullying Gute into a bad Adams deal then jettisoning both may be necessary.

Yup....as I said, these 2 players hold all of the cards of both of them staying in GB. Ironic if Rodgers is only staying in GB for a shot at a SB and he just might be holding things up, where the Packers really can't put a team together to do that.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Let's just hope that if the Packers trade Rodgers to the Steelers, one of the Players in the deal is TJ Watt.

Nevermind.....Holy Schniekies! I just looked at Watt's contract.

T.J. Watt

T.J. Watt contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

www.spotrac.com

 

[tynimiller]

Let's just hope that if the Packers trade Rodgers to the Steelers, one of the Players in the deal is TJ Watt.

Nevermind.....Holy Schniekies! I just looked at Watt's contract.

T.J. Watt

T.J. Watt contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

www.spotrac.com

TJ Watt is going to go the route of Von Miller IMO after this season - will win a ring with a different team.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

TJ Watt is going to go the route of Von Miller IMO after this season - will win a ring with a different team.

Something the Packers are quite familiar with might prevent that. He would have a cap hit of $41.35M after this next season. Sure they can split that over 2 years, but that is a big hit.

 

[BrokenArrow]

You should become a fan of the Bears or Lions instead.

You should post something with some intelligence behind it someday.

 

[Dantés]

This is just speculation, but it's possible that the delay is also on the Packers end. They might want to structure the contract differently depending on what happens with their free agents.

 

[Mondio]

This is just speculation, but it's possible that the delay is also on the Packers end. They might want to structure the contract differently depending on what happens with their free agents.

The only allowable speculation is that It's because Rodgers is a ***** and management is inept.

 

[Firethorn1001]

All I know is that Rodgers better be extended. Because if he walks out the door next year as a free agent and the Packers just let 1st round picks walk out the door just to have one more year, someone should be fired. I think that is the worst case scenario. I'd rather have multiple draft picks than even just 1 more year of Rodgers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

All I know is that Rodgers better be extended. Because if he walks out the door next year as a free agent and the Packers just let 1st round picks walk out the door just to have one more year, someone should be fired. I think that is the worst case scenario. I'd rather have multiple draft picks than even just 1 more year of Rodgers.

Maybe the Seahawks will give us 1 of the first rounders they got from Denver for him.

 

[OldSchool101]

Your opinion may be a 100% accurate but I am not believing anything that I read or hear until the contract is signed. I do believe there is a reason why Rodgers has not signed his contract yet. Maybe he's helping Davante or waiting to see what moves the Packers make.

There’s not even a question in my mind that we are working Rodgers contract to positively supply our Cap dilemma. How they work the details we don’t know just yet. However the bigger the contract and the firmer the team commitment to a particular player like Rodgers? I agree that part leads to the bigger the long term capital gymnastics we make.

We have to get Rodgers contract right. There’s too much on the line now. I’m beginning to think that maybe, just maybe, it’s the Packers FO working it backwards. I think they needed a firm commitment from Aaron and now they have it. Our FO also likely understands how much $$ they’ll need to scrape from Aaron’s deal, but they may not want to overdue it (the future pushing of cap monies)

I don’t think it’s Aaron holding the shoe anymore as much, he’s gotten his assurances he’s getting paid. Aaron is working with us this go around (to formulate a winning hand) and I think it’s a positive sign of his growth.

 

[PackAttack12]

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His cap number for 2022 is supposedly down to 28 million.

Comes with 2 “dummy” years.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Here are the details.

Aaron Rodgers signs contract extension, reduces 2022 cap hit by $18M

The Packers finally have a deal done with Rodgers, and it gives the team a massive salary cap savings this year.

www.acmepackingcompany.com

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So what I am curious about, this article says that the Packers are now only a few million over the cap, is Davante's tag number not included in it? Because if it is and they can work out a new deal with him, they will have a lot more cap space. I am under the assumption that it isn't.

 

[bigbubbatd]

So what I am curious about, this article says that the Packers are now only a few million over the cap, is Davante's tag number not included in it? Because if it is and they can work out a new deal with him, they will have a lot more cap space. I am under the assumption that it isn't.

Devante is included from what I know. The Packers could get well under the cap with a devante extension and an Alexander extension

 

[tynimiller]

So what I am curious about, this article says that the Packers are now only a few million over the cap, is Davante's tag number not included in it? Because if it is and they can work out a new deal with him, they will have a lot more cap space. I am under the assumption that it isn't.

It's included on Spotrac and they've been very much on top of things past couple days - OTC has been very off lately I've noticed. If Rodgers move saves us $18M - Spotrac also shows about $2M yet to gain - which Cobb told folks he was reworking his deal and should easily make that up.

Notice the big fish out there is still an extension for Jaire which could save as much as 5-8M.

 

[PikeBadger]

However, I concede that none of the moves that have been done are so destructive cap wise in the future that would make it impossible to build around Love....it for sure could impact how this is conducted, but nothing yet has crossed that line for me personally.

I will at the same time concede the Preston extension depending on structure could be argued you don't do if Love is the present. You strip things down more...and not extend him.

Kind of disagree with you about P.Smiith. If Love is the QB the team will be relying on a very strong defense and powerful running game and play much more of the field position game imo. I'd enjoy seeing that after all the pass happy years under Rodgers. It wouldn't bother me at all to play more like the Steelers, 49ers and Titans.

 

[tynimiller]

Kind of disagree with you about P.Smiith. If Love is the QB the team will be relying on a very strong defense and powerful running game and play much more of the field position game imo. I'd enjoy seeing that after all the pass happy years under Rodgers. It wouldn't bother me at all to play more like the Steelers, 49ers and Titans.

I will admit that post was before seeing the structure of Preston's deal - it is such a team friendly deal I fully support it either way. My initial struggle was solely based on the length of the contract running into ages where we see a drop off at his position often - and paying aging/depleting defensive players when defense will be critical if going to the Love era isn't the smartest thing.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Devante is included from what I know. The Packers could get well under the cap with a devante extension and an Alexander extension

Get those 2 things done and we have enough to sign Jarvis Landry and a decent D-lineman.