Official Steelers thread

[El Guapo]

Understood. I like when Wayne Larrivee and others talk to their cohorts covering other teams. Very insightful

 

[Sanguine camper]

The defense actually played pretty well against the Niners though. In addition the Steelers offense has been absolutely terrible so far this season.

Packers defense should be able to fix the terrible. They will run right at Lowry and pound the ball to set play action. Pittsburg is getting healthy and will be a different team on Sunday.

 

[Dantés]

The Steelers' defense so far...

The Bills (wk 1) and Bengals (wk 3) ran on them pretty well, while the Raiders (wk 2) found virtually zero running room.

They did an excellent job of shutting down Josh Allen in week 1: 30/51 (59%), 270 yards, 5.3 YPA, 1 TD, 3 sacks.

However, Derek Carr and Joe Burrow were really efficient against them in the last two weeks:

-Carr: 28/37 (76%), 382 yards, 10.3 YPA, 2 TD, 2 sacks

-Burrow: 14/18 (78%), 172 yards, 9.6 YPA, 3 TD, 1 INT

They are allowing a 40% conversion rate on 3rd down and 44% TD rate in the red zone.

Their strength has been a stellar defensive line with Watt on the edge. They may have Watt back, but the DL is really depleted. They don't have Tuitt or Alualu. It will likely be Isaiah Buggs and Chris Wormley playing next to Cam Heyward.

 

[realitybytez]

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[El Guapo]

I'm starting to grow concerned about Jenkins. This mystery ankle injury is more than just something he rolled or twisted. Anything minor should have healed in a week's time, at least to the point where he would be a limited participant. I'm curious to hear what is really going on.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Yes, Watt is playing against the Packers. What I wonder is if Jenkins will be available to help contain him.

Watt was a limited participant in Wednesday's practice. While that's progress compared to last week it's far from a given he will be able to play on Sunday. Jenkins not being able to practice at all yesterday is reason for concern though.

Nothing that a little Packers defense can't fix.

I truly hope you're wrong about that

Packers defense should be able to fix the terrible. They will run right at Lowry and pound the ball to set play action. Pittsburg is getting healthy and will be a different team on Sunday.

Diontae Johnson was the only player on offense that missed Sunday's game vs. the Bengals. While he returned to practice on a limited basis yesterday, Ben Roethlisberger and Ju-Ju Smith Schuster weren't able to participate. I don't see their offense being any different that it was last week.

 

[Krabs]

Watt was a limited participant in Wednesday's practice. While that's progress compared to last week it's far from a given he will be able to play on Sunday. Jenkins not being able to practice at all yesterday is reason for concern though.

My info was from the local radio and interviewing a Steelers beat writer. He was saying that he would be surprised if Watt missed an opportunity playing at Lambeau Field. Wasn't a guarantee, but basically sounded like he was at least going to give it a go even if it was on a limited basis. Maybe passing downs. I do hope he can go just because I'm a Badgers fan and the Watt's put a lot into that program. They continue to plug it any chance they get.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

This will be Rodgers' first time playing Pittsburgh since the Super Bowl. He missed the 2013 and 2017 games with his collarbone injuries. Hard to believe that the Super Bowl eleven years ago now.

And while both teams have nearly entirely different rosters since Super Bowl 45, the quarterbacks are the same.

Also, I believe, Cameron Heyward and Mason Crosby, and precious few others if any.

 

[longtimefan]

The Steelers will play desperate. They need a win in the worst way to keep their season alive due to them being in far from a weak division. Cleveland and Baltimore will both be double digit win teams, so the Steelers cannot afford to drop to 1-3.

I do think though that Roethlisberger being a stationary QB with almost no mobility will greatly work to the benefit of the Packers. I see them pressuring quite a bit, and the backend will make a lot of big plays. I think the Packers will win the turnover margin by at least 2.

Though I expect a lot of fight in the Steelers, I just think they're going to be a little overmatched in this one. The Packers have sort of caught their stride and if they don't get overconfident (which I can't see happening given that they still remember getting pantsed in week 1), I could see a pretty convincing win.

I'll be interested to see the Steelers injury report later on today. They have been super banged up on defense.

Ben and Jj dnp Tj lp

 

[Krabs]

The Steelers have given up the 12th most points in the league with 66. That's not horrible, but shows they can be scored on. The Packers right now have given up the 24th most with 83. We all know that 38 of that came in week one . Small sample sizes, but I think the Packers have refocused and have played much better defense over the last six quarters. Not awesome, but solid. The Packers are ranked 17th in the league in scoring. The Steelers are 28th right now and from what I understand have looked horrible. I have not seen them play. Early season stats after game three might not mean much big picture, but do tell a story of where the teams are headed. I have a hard time believing the Steelers outscore the Packers in this one.

Packers 30 Steelers 21

 

[Krabs]

The Steelers' defense so far...

The Bills (wk 1) and Bengals (wk 3) ran on them pretty well, while the Raiders (wk 2) found virtually zero running room.

They did an excellent job of shutting down Josh Allen in week 1: 30/51 (59%), 270 yards, 5.3 YPA, 1 TD, 3 sacks.

However, Derek Carr and Joe Burrow were really efficient against them in the last two weeks:

-Carr: 28/37 (76%), 382 yards, 10.3 YPA, 2 TD, 2 sacks

-Burrow: 14/18 (78%), 172 yards, 9.6 YPA, 3 TD, 1 INT

They are allowing a 40% conversion rate on 3rd down and 44% TD rate in the red zone.

Their strength has been a stellar defensive line with Watt on the edge. They may have Watt back, but the DL is really depleted. They don't have Tuitt or Alualu. It will likely be Isaiah Buggs and Chris Wormley playing next to Cam Heyward.

Nice breakdown, thanks for that. I feel like the Packers will put up some points against this defense. Take care of the ball and win the turnover battle. I think they put up at least 30.

 

[realitybytez]

The Steelers have given up the 12th most points in the league with 66. ... The Packers right now have given up the 24th most with 83.

shouldn't the 24th most points be less than the 12th most? asking for a friend.

 

[Krabs]

shouldn't the 24th most points be less than the 12th most? asking for a friend.

No, the Packers have given up 83 points on the season, which ranks them at 24. They have given up the 24th most points out of 32 teams. The Steelers have given up 66 points, which ranks them as giving up the 12th most points in the league. Thus, the Steelers have given up less points, which ranks them higher or a better defense on paper.

 

[realitybytez]

No, the Packers have given up 83 points on the season, which ranks them at 24. They have given up the 24th most points out of 32 teams. The Steelers have given up 66 points, which ranks them as giving up the 12th most points in the league. Thus, the Steelers have given up less points, which ranks them higher or a better defense on paper.

sorry but that is incorrect mathematically speaking. they are ranked 24th in points given up. but they have given up the ninth most points. another way of saying it is that they have given up the 24th least points.

 

[gopkrs]

sorry but that is incorrect mathematically speaking. they are ranked 24th in points given up. but they have given up the ninth most points. another way of saying it is that they have given up the 24th least points.

Then what about this: "No, the Packers have given up 83 points on the season, which ranks them at 24. They have given up the 24th most points out of 32 teams. The Steelers have given up 66 points,"

 

[realitybytez]

Then what about this: "No, the Packers have given up 83 points on the season, which ranks them at 24. They have given up the 24th most points out of 32 teams. The Steelers have given up 66 points,"

they have not given up the 24th most points. let me see if i can simplify.

the detroit lions and the kansas city chiefs have both given up 95 points on the season. they are tied for the most points given up by any team so far. they are ranked at #31 and #32.
the atlanta falcons have given up 94 points, which is the second most. they are ranked at #30.
the washington football team has given up 92 points, which is the third most. they are ranked #29.

the packers have given up 83 points, which is the eighth most. sorry i said ninth most before. but i did not notice that there were two teams tied with the most. the packers are ranked at #24.

 

[Krabs]

they have not given up the 24th most points. let me see if i can simplify.

the detroit lions and the kansas city chiefs have both given up 95 points on the season. they are tied for the most points given up by any team so far. they are ranked at #31 and #32.
the atlanta falcons have given up 94 points, which is the second most. they are ranked at #30.
the washington football team has given up 92 points, which is the third most. they are ranked #29.

the packers have given up 83 points, which is the eighth most. sorry i said ninth most before. but i did not notice that there were two teams tied with the most. the packers are ranked at #24.

Is this not what I said? Did you consult your friend that was asking?

 

[gopkrs]

they have not given up the 24th most points. let me see if i can simplify.

the detroit lions and the kansas city chiefs have both given up 95 points on the season. they are tied for the most points given up by any team so far. they are ranked at #31 and #32.
the atlanta falcons have given up 94 points, which is the second most. they are ranked at #30.
the washington football team has given up 92 points, which is the third most. they are ranked #29.

the packers have given up 83 points, which is the eighth most. sorry i said ninth most before. but i did not notice that there were two teams tied with the most. the packers are ranked at #24.

Oh Gee...thanx

 

[El Guapo]

It seems that realitybytez is focusing on the wording. However, we all know that what Nick Karbula listed was the rankings. The Broncos are the best at keeping opponents from scoring with the #1 ranking and we are in the bottom 1/3rd ranked 24th - only 8 other teams have allowed more points.

Interestingly Baltimore and Tampa Bay are both ranked worse than the Packers. They should be better than that.

 

[realitybytez]

Is this not what I said? Did you consult your friend that was asking?

no it is not what you said. you said the packers have given up the 24th most points. it's actually very simple english. you wouldn't say that the lions have given up the 32nd most points. that would actually mean that they had given up the least points. but they have actually given up the most points.

looking at the other end of the spectrum, the broncos have given up 26 points. by your logic, you would say that they have given up the first most points, when in actuality, they have given up the least.

anyway, i'm done explaining. it is a very simple concept that is taught in early middle school.

 

[AmishMafia]

no it is not what you said. you said the packers have given up the 24th most points. it's actually very simple english. you wouldn't say that the lions have given up the 32nd most points. that would actually mean that they had given up the least points. but they have actually given up the most points.

looking at the other end of the spectrum, the broncos have given up 26 points. by your logic, you would say that they have given up the first most points, when in actuality, they have given up the least.

anyway, i'm done explaining. it is a very simple concept that is taught in early middle school.

I think everyone understands you are correct (except Nick). Time to move on.

 

[realitybytez]

I think everyone understands you are correct (except Nick). Time to move on.

gladly. really sorry i brought it up.

 

[AmishMafia]

I don't like the Steelers so much anymore. Don't like rothlesberger. I have trouble with people who do something wrong and buy their way out of it. Just not right.

I'm glad to hear he looks bad out there. Hope they pull him at some point to humiliate him further.

Packers 38 Stellers 16

BB gets sacked 4 times
AR spreads the ball around more
Stokes gets his first pick
Savage and a front 7 player also get INTs
Campbell has a big game

 

[swhitset]

no it is not what you said. you said the packers have given up the 24th most points. it's actually very simple english. you wouldn't say that the lions have given up the 32nd most points. that would actually mean that they had given up the least points. but they have actually given up the most points.

looking at the other end of the spectrum, the broncos have given up 26 points. by your logic, you would say that they have given up the first most points, when in actuality, they have given up the least.

anyway, i'm done explaining. it is a very simple concept that is taught in early middle school.

agreed… and I am distressed that quite a few posters dont understand that this is not a trivial detail. You are not just being pedantic.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading and trying to follow that back and forth. I would rank it as the 12th highest time waster I have dealt with in the last 31 days.