Now that we are out, who'd you rather win this SB?

[Half Empty]

Let's not gloss over the fact that it wasn't 4th and 26 that lost the game, it was Favre's mind numbingly ill advised pass in overtime that was easily intercepted and returned to field goal range that led to Akers's game winning field goal.

I remember the play, but not enough of the game. If they don't convert the 4th & 26, does the game even go to OT?

 

[rmontro]

Let's not gloss over the fact that it wasn't 4th and 26 that lost the game, it was Favre's mind numbingly ill advised pass in overtime that was easily intercepted and returned to field goal range that led to Akers's game winning field goal.

If they hadn't converted that 4th and 26 - let's go ahead and say it: If Capers defense hadn't given up that 4th and 26th - they never would have tied the game, and it never would have gone to overtime. We would have the ball, and more than likely the game would have been over.

That was a bit like the Seattle game, where if one of several things had gone right, we would have won.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I remember the play, but not enough of the game. If they don't convert the 4th & 26, does the game even go to OT?

No, Eagles were 4th and 26 from their own 26 yardline. Pack was up by 3, there was 1:12 left on the clock and I believe the Eagles were out of timeouts....Victory formation, game over.

 

[Mondio]

If they hadn't converted that 4th and 26 - let's go ahead and say it: If Capers defense hadn't given up that 4th and 26th - they never would have tied the game, and it never would have gone to overtime. We would have the ball, and more than likely the game would have been over.

That was a bit like the Seattle game, where if one of several things had gone right, we would have won.

Capers? wasn't that Ed Donatell?

 

[PackerDNA]

Capers? wasn't that Ed Donatell?

Yep.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Capers? wasn't that Ed Donatell?

It was but so much easier to blame Capers for all the bad things

Capers was the DC for the Cowboys during the Ice Bowl.

 

[Mondio]

It was but so much easier to blame Capers for all the bad things

Capers was the DC for the Cowboys during the Ice Bowl.

Thank Goodness

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Thank Goodness

Poor guy gets blamed for everything it seems.

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[PackerDNA]

Capers was on the grassy knoll.

 

[rmontro]

Capers? wasn't that Ed Donatell?

You're right, wrong era, oops. You have to admit it sounds like something our Capers defense would have done though.

 

[sschind]

You're right, wrong era, oops. You have to admit it sounds like something our Capers defense would have done though.

No problem. Seems like Capers gets blamed for everything. I heard the Trey Parker and Matt Stone had originally titled their song "Blame Capers" but it just didn't sound right.

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[Half Empty]

No, Eagles were 4th and 26 from their own 26 yardline. Pack was up by 3, there was 1:12 left on the clock and I believe the Eagles were out of timeouts....Victory formation, game over.

Thanks. So, between you and the post right before you, it appears that the 4th and 26 WAS the play that lost game, since Favre's INT otherwise couldn't have happened.

 

[sschind]

Thanks. So, between you and the post right before you, it appears that the 4th and 26 WAS the play that lost game, since Favre's INT otherwise couldn't have happened.

As much as any one play can lose a game then yeah I suppose you could say that.. Who knows maybe a drop in the first quarter could have lead to another score and that was the play that lost the game. Or maybe had we stopped the Eagles on a 3rd down on one of their scoring drives 4th and 26 becomes insignificant.

 

[Half Empty]

Oh sure, just like not making one of the dozen or so errors in the Seahawk debacle might have preserved the victory. The reason for my post was that someone was comparing just the 4th and 26 and Favre's interception.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Oh sure, just like not making one of the dozen or so errors in the Seahawk debacle might have preserved the victory. The reason for my post was that someone was comparing just the 4th and 26 and Favre's interception.

People always want to find a scapegoat to pin a loss on, but as sschind so eloquently pointed out, Football is a 60 or more minute game, I'm pretty confident a person could go through any loss or win and point out several plays that lost or won us a particular game.

 

[Mondio]

They can, and do. Can always identify 10 plays in probably every game that would have extended this drive, put in FG range, dropped TD, etc. I tend to put more weight on plays that happen later, like 4th and 26, just because they happen later.

If it happens in the first quarter there is 75+% of the game to make up for it. And when one thing happens that early everything after would change from personal groups, play calls, strategies, etc.

But like with the Fail Mary or 4th and 26, not much else would be different other than the outcome of winning and losing. But I do agree, a game is won or lost on a lot more than just one play. Or they'd just line up and have one play for all the marbles

 

[Half Empty]

As I said, agree - unless someone wants to bring up another individual play.

 

[RepStar15]

I hate the Eagles because of their fan base, but I live in New England and hate Patriots fans more. Its a gross Super Bowl, but lets do this Philly. I can’t walk into Gilette next year for the Packers game and see a sixth flag.

 

[sschind]

Oh sure, just like not making one of the dozen or so errors in the Seahawk debacle might have preserved the victory. The reason for my post was that someone was comparing just the 4th and 26 and Favre's interception.

Got it. sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[Cheese Meister]

I hate the Eagles because of their fan base, but I live in New England and hate Patriots fans more. Its a gross Super Bowl, but lets do this Philly. I can’t walk into Gilette next year for the Packers game and see a sixth flag.

I totally understand. I live in MN and was rooting for the Eagles to beat the Vikings. I am also put out by some of the Eagles fan base, but I am rooting for them because they have not yet won a Lombardi trophy.

The weeks leading up to the NFC Championship game was miserable. It was VikingsVikingsVikings everywhere; NBC affiliate, newspapers, commercials. Now they have been eliminated, it's a lot better now. I am a volunteer for the Super Bowl 52, so I can judge how the fans are feeling. I have noticed a few fans dressed in Viking and Packer gear, but most are attending the activities just to enjoy themselves.

 

[gonzozab]

Thanks. So, between you and the post right before you, it appears that the 4th and 26 WAS the play that lost game, since Favre's INT otherwise couldn't have happened.

No, it was the Favre interception that lost the game. It's true that stopping the 4th and 26 would've won the game, but it certainly didn't lose it. The Packers still got to touch the ball again after that play. If the Eagles had converted a 4th and 1 instead, would that be the play that lost the game?

 

[rmontro]

No, it was the Favre interception that lost the game. It's true that stopping the 4th and 26 would've won the game, but it certainly didn't lose it. The Packers still got to touch the ball again after that play. If the Eagles had converted a 4th and 1 instead, would that be the play that lost the game?

Yeah, but if you have their offense backed up into a 4th and 26th, and all you have to do is stop them from getting a first down and the game is over, the expectation is that you should be capable of doing that. Things like that can cause a big momentum swing, especially when you are playing on the other team's field.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

No, it was the Favre interception that lost the game. It's true that stopping the 4th and 26 would've won the game, but it certainly didn't lose it. The Packers still got to touch the ball again after that play. If the Eagles had converted a 4th and 1 instead, would that be the play that lost the game?

Technically speaking, wasn't it the 31 yard field goal by David Akers that caused the Packers to lose that game? Up until that play, it was either teams game to win.

 

[Croak]

Let's all just hope the *zebras* don't control the trophy this year......

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Let's all just hope the *zebras* don't control the trophy this year......

Or that the Zebra's aren't the trophy

I mean really, who hunts Zebra's?

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