NFCCG 2016 -- revenge tour goes to Atlanta!!

[Deleted member 6794]

ditto, we did bring some lbs to blitz Wilson but he is no Rodgers and his legs beat us a few times. Vic is playing injured and if he can't get to Rodgers or mirror him to perfection it's gonna be a long day on our end to

The Packers rely a lot on Rodgers' ability to make plays outside of the pocket. He has thrown for 223 yards in two playoff games which is more than all other playoff quarterbacks combined (174). In addition his QB rating is 157.5 compared to 77.6 for the rest of the league.

 

[C-Lee]

It'd be huge if we get Morgan, Jordy and Rollins back.

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

The Packers rely a lot on Rodgers' ability to make plays outside of the pocket. He has thrown for 223 yards in two playoff games which is more than all other playoff quarterbacks combined (174). In addition his QB rating is 157.5 compared to 77.6 for the rest of the league.

True that's pretty crazy also. I really do expect that beasley will be spying him on times he rolls out of the pocket. Beasley can run him down unlike dallas d linemen. Same with Deion jones. He may be undersized but he runs a 4.35 40 and showed it when he outran Brandon cooks on an int return this yr. if we play zone it's suicide for the Falcons.

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

It'd be huge if we get Morgan, Jordy and Rollins back.

I'm assuming you'll have Morgan. 1 hit on jordy and he will be back on the sidelines. Cracked ribs are not easy to deal with. No idea bout Rollins. What was his injury?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Here are two of the biggest reasons I am optimistic about this game.

First, much like the Dallas game, a lot is going to be said about the two teams first meeting this year. I think we saw how that played out yesterday. Our D allowed similar numbers to Dallas, but our offense went from scoring 16 points to 34 points and that first game was at Lambeau.

Yes, Atlanta beat the Packers by 1 point the last time the 2 teams played at the end of October in Atlanta, but the Cowboys can attest, this is a much different Packer offense than Atlanta gave up 32 points to in that first meeting.

Second, Yes, Atlanta is "red hot" but look who they have played in the last half of the season to get to where they are:

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I didn't include the recent win against the Seahawks, since the Packers recently dismantled that team at home as well.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

No idea bout Rollins. What was his injury?

Rollins suffered a concussion in the regular season finale at Detroit and is still in the protocol.

 

[PFanCan]

The Packers rely a lot on Rodgers' ability to make plays outside of the pocket. He has thrown for 223 yards in two playoff games which is more than all other playoff quarterbacks combined (174). In addition his QB rating is 157.5 compared to 77.6 for the rest of the league.

That is incredible. Nearly perfect rating outside the pocket.

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

Here is one of the biggest reasons I am optimistic about this game.

Much like the Dallas game, a lot is going to be said about the two teams first meeting this year. I think we saw how that played out yesterday. Our D allowed similar numbers to Dallas, but our offense went from scoring 16 points to 34 points and that first game was at Lambeau.

Yes, Atlanta beat the Packers by 1 point the last time the 2 teams played at the end of October in Atlanta, but the Cowboys can attest, this is a much different Packer offense than Atlanta gave up 32 points to in that first meeting.

Rodgers threw 4tds true, I think we only made you punt twice and that was the 2nd half. Same goes for Atlanta though we scored 33 on you. In the first half we had two drives stall bc of illegal formation penalties when we had just acquired first downs. We haven't had an illegal formation since that game. Outside that it your defense did little to stop our offense.. both offenses are gonna be going 100mph lights out no doubt. For much the same reasons your optimistic we are as well after watching our defense grow. Remember 8of our 11 starters are 1st or 2nd yr players. Neal, Jones, Cambell, Vic, Poole, Jarrett, Allen,collins. They're young but they are hungry and looking to earn respect. Especially going up against the GOAT.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

But we are a much different team too. Since the bye, our D has allowed 19 points per game average. And as many of the talking heads said after our game with Seattle, we bullied the bully, and our D was more physical than theirs. And the way Dallas came back on your D, I'm pretty sure you aren't going to contain our offense. We average 35 points a game at home, and 33.8 overall. Look at what we did to the best D left in the playoffs, Seattle. Gonna be a good game, but I'm optimistic about the Falcons' chances too

which is why I added the second part....before I even saw this post.

Going 6-2 the last half of the season against the teams Atlanta played, doesn't impress me that much. Not trying to smack talk here, just bringing things into the light they should be looked at.

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

But we are a much different team too. Since the bye, our D has allowed 19 points per game average. And as many of the talking heads said after our game with Seattle, we bullied the bully, and our D was more physical than theirs. And the way Dallas came back on your D, I'm pretty sure you aren't going to contain our offense. We average 35 points a game at home, and 33.8 overall. Look at what we did to the best D left in the playoffs, Seattle. Gonna be a good game, but I'm optimistic about the Falcons' chances too

Fuego and I both come to talk football, we're both from the same falcon MB.

It's gonna be a shootout. They put 38 on NYG at home we put 36 on Seattle at home..

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

which is why I added the second part....before I even saw this post.

I get what your saying but to think that you're going to put up 40 on a young defense that's improved 10fold over the course of the year is a bit much. We have the speed that dallas didn't to match you. Dallas has a big lumbering front 7. We have small penetrating d line and fast as there is LBs. It's a tall order for both teams.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I get what your saying but to think that you're going to put up 40 on a young defense that's improved 10fold over the course of the year is a bit much. We have the speed that dallas didn't to match you. Dallas has a big lumbering front 7. We have small penetrating d line and fast as there is LBs. It's a tall order for both teams.

I have no doubt this will be a great game. A lot of Dallas fans were hanging their hats on how badly they destroyed the Packers in our first game with them, this isn't the same team that Dallas and Atlanta saw the first time on offense, not even close. Yes, Atlanta is probably not the same team either, but the Falcons record and stats are not as impressive when you look at the teams they played to get there.

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

Here are two of the biggest reasons I am optimistic about this game.

First, much like the Dallas game, a lot is going to be said about the two teams first meeting this year. I think we saw how that played out yesterday. Our D allowed similar numbers to Dallas, but our offense went from scoring 16 points to 34 points and that first game was at Lambeau.

Yes, Atlanta beat the Packers by 1 point the last time the 2 teams played at the end of October in Atlanta, but the Cowboys can attest, this is a much different Packer offense than Atlanta gave up 32 points to in that first meeting.

Second, Yes, Atlanta is "red hot" but look who they have played in the last half of the season to get to where they are:

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  CARDINALS 19 FALCONS 38
  
  
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  CHIEFS 29 FALCONS 28
  
  
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  FALCONS 42 RAMS 14
  
  
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  49ERS 13 FALCONS 41
  
  
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  FALCONS 33 PANTHERS 16
  
  
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I didn't include the recent win against the Seahawks, since the Packers recently dismantled that team at home as well.

So playing the eagles bears, Lions, Vikings, and Texans who all have atrocious offenses is supposed to be better? Come on you're better than that.

You barely beat the bears.. and I mean Barely..
The lions lost 4 straight. They were not the same with staffords injury. You beat Brock osweiler by 8... we lost to kc by 1 pt. Otherwise we would be on a run the table stretch to. If that's your argument so be it. It's just not very educated.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It's gonna be a shootout. They put 38 on NYG at home we put 36 on Seattle at home..

We also recently put 38 on Seattle and only gave up 10, but who's counting.

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

I have no doubt this will be a great game. A lot of Dallas fans were hanging their hats on how badly they destroyed the Packers in our first game with them, this isn't the same team that Dallas and Atlanta saw the first time on offense, not even close. Yes, Atlanta is probably not the same team either, but the Falcons record and stats are not as impressive when you look at the teams they played to get there.

Well when you are up 43-14, 42-0,38-13,41-13 to start the 4th qtr and you pull your starters and let 2nd,3rd stringers play they are gonna get some garbage yards... just saying. This D can play when called upon..

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

We also recently put 38 on Seattle and only gave up 10, but who's counting.

Your team also gave up 47 to TEN and 42 to Wash. Atlanta lost 5 games by a combined 22 pts.. our team has also never given up more than those 32 pts since we played you. Same cannot be said for your D. But as a packer fan you should also know that when a team is losing they are forced to pass pass pass and pass again to try and play catch up.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So playing the eagles bears, Lions, Vikings, and Texans who all have atrocious offenses is supposed to be better? Come on you're better than that.

You barely beat the bears.. and I mean Barely..
The lions lost 4 straight. They were not the same with staffords injury. You beat Brock osweiler by 8... we lost to kc by 1 pt. Otherwise we would be on a run the table stretch to. If that's your argument so be it. It's just not very educated.

Last I checked, both the Texans and the Lions made the playoffs. Falcons lost to the Eagles, so not sure where you are going with that, since we beat them? Vikings were an 8-8 team. Bears, give you that one.

Pass it off as "you being better than that" for me to bring up strength of schedules, but IMO, you are turning a blind eye to something most people view as valuable information.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

So playing the eagles bears, Lions, Vikings, and Texans who all have atrocious offenses is supposed to be better? Come on you're better than that.

You barely beat the bears.. and I mean Barely..
The lions lost 4 straight. They were not the same with staffords injury. You beat Brock osweiler by 8... we lost to kc by 1 pt. Otherwise we would be on a run the table stretch to. If that's your argument so be it. It's just not very educated.

The Falcons only played two top 10 offenses after their bye week in the Cardinals (19 points allowed) and Saints (32). Don't fool yourself though the Packers offense currently is a whole different animal than those two teams.

As I've mentioned repeatedly this game will most likely end up being a shootout with whichever defense gets a timely stop winning it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Your team also gave up 47 to TEN and 42 to Wash. Atlanta lost 5 games by a combined 22 pts.. our team has also never given up more than those 32 pts since we played you. Same cannot be said for your D. But as a packer fan you should also know that when a team is losing they are forced to pass pass pass and pass again to try and play catch up.

The difference here, I am bringing in the last 8 games, both teams are being called "hot" with the way they have played over those games. I agree, both teams are. I would just rather hang my optimism to just how good each team really is, based on who they were playing during that stretch.

 

[Mondio]

You know this will end up being the game that ends up 9-6

 

[Deleted member 6794]

According to Football Outsiders weighted defense metric which is adjusted so that earlier games in the season become gradually less important and therefore better reflects how the team was playing at the end of the season the Falcons defense is ranked 22nd in the league, a spot in front of the Packers.

It seems there isn't a significant difference in the units performance.

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

The difference here, I am bringing in the last 8 games, both teams are being called "hot" with the way they have played over those games. I agree, both teams are. I would just rather hang my optimism to just how good each team really is, based on who they were playing during that stretch.

That's fair, I would expect you to feel optimistic about your team as you would me about mine. Look we lost some games we shouldn't have. We were a missed fg and failed 4th down away from beating chargers. A missed PI from a fg opportunity against Seattle for the win and a pick 2 from beating KC. Just as you guys had games you shouldn't of lost we had some to.

Cheers to this being an amazing nfccg

 

[Skerfalcon8710]

According to Football Outsiders weighted defense metric which is adjusted so that earlier games in the season become gradually less important and therefore better reflects how the team was playing at the end of the season the Falcons defense is ranked 22nd in the league, a spot in front of the Packers.

It seems there isn't a significant difference in the units performance.

Yea perhaps we should all just agree our defenses suck and pray our own defenses get s turnover to change the game

 

[PFanCan]

Yea perhaps we should all just agree our defenses suck and pray our own defenses get s turnover to change the game

This hit the nail on the head for me. I think this next game could come down to a single bounce of the ball. Lucky for one team while unlucky for the other...

 

[Sky King]

I think you're right about Buck or Aikman having said that. I remember it, too.