KGB

[Greg C.]

KGB hasn't lived up to his contract, but he hasn't been a bust either. Many times I've seen him get pressure on the QB, but there was no pressure from the other side or up the middle, so the QB easily stepped away from it. In fact, I saw this happen a few times against the Chargers on Saturday night. Rushing the passer is a team effort, not something that you can expect one guy to do alone.

KGB does get stopped cold by the best LT's in the game, but then, so does everybody else. The sad fact is that he is the only legitimate pass-rushing threat this team has had since Reggie left, and pass rushers don't grow on trees.

I do remember that game against the Vikings last year when he got destroyed on play after play, and I kept thinking, why don't they get him some help over there? Well, in the off-season they DID get him some help: A.J. Hawk. If KGB is not much-improved in 2006, I will say let's get rid of him. But if Hawk and the rest of the defense steps up its level of play, I think KGB will have a big season.

 

[Packnic]

KGB hasn't lived up to his contract, but he hasn't been a bust either. Many times I've seen him get pressure on the QB, but there was no pressure from the other side or up the middle, so the QB easily stepped away from it. In fact, I saw this happen a few times against the Chargers on Saturday night. Rushing the passer is a team effort, not something that you can expect one guy to do alone.

KGB does get stopped cold by the best LT's in the game, but then, so does everybody else. The sad fact is that he is the only legitimate pass-rushing threat this team has had since Reggie left, and pass rushers don't grow on trees.

I do remember that game against the Vikings last year when he got destroyed on play after play, and I kept thinking, why don't they get him some help over there? Well, in the off-season they DID get him some help: A.J. Hawk. If KGB is not much-improved in 2006, I will say let's get rid of him. But if Hawk and the rest of the defense steps up its level of play, I think KGB will have a big season.

thats a great post greg.

"Rushing the passer is a team effort, not something that you can expect one guy to do alone.

KGB does get stopped cold by the best LT's in the game, but then, so does everybody else. "

its easier to stone a guy when your not gettin any threat from anywhere else. you just simply craft your game plan around the threat . and the best LT's in the game stop him because they are the best LT's in the game. Not one pash rusher in the league right now, will get past the best LT's everytime, and would also struggle all game.

however im not saying hes living up to the contract. but to find another pash rusher would not be easy. a trade is out of the question... we dont have a solid pass rush with out him and a trade for a better DE is not likely. so your gonna have to look to next years draft and craft a guy under KGB. meanwhile amping up the rest of the defense is surely gonna help KGB

 

[packerfan4ever]

kgb will do fine look what he has done in the chargers game he did get a sack,but he had help everyone stepped up and what they were suppose to,i think he will be great this year,i'm not saying he should have gotten the big contract,i think he needs to hang on to the player more and bring him down aj was showing that i want to see more of the aggrisiveness,they show it in traing camp these days getting in each others face read trhey did again yesterday take that to the adlanta game :twisted:

 

[DePack]

KGB hasn't lived up to his contract, but he hasn't been a bust either. Many times I've seen him get pressure on the QB, but there was no pressure from the other side or up the middle, so the QB easily stepped away from it. In fact, I saw this happen a few times against the Chargers on Saturday night. Rushing the passer is a team effort, not something that you can expect one guy to do alone.

KGB does get stopped cold by the best LT's in the game, but then, so does everybody else. The sad fact is that he is the only legitimate pass-rushing threat this team has had since Reggie left, and pass rushers don't grow on trees.

I do remember that game against the Vikings last year when he got destroyed on play after play, and I kept thinking, why don't they get him some help over there? Well, in the off-season they DID get him some help: A.J. Hawk. If KGB is not much-improved in 2006, I will say let's get rid of him. But if Hawk and the rest of the defense steps up its level of play, I think KGB will have a big season.

Great post Greg....I've been saying it for a couple years. You gotta get pressure up the middle or that outside rush means nothing. QB's are real comfortable stepping up into the pocket with no pressure up the middle.

 

[pyledriver80]

Agreed DePack. We are still looking for that other Tackle. Jenkins had his chance and blew it. Hopefully Cole or Williams can step up

 

[DakotaT]

Agreed DePack. We are still looking for that other Tackle. Jenkins had his chance and blew it. Hopefully Cole or Williams can step up

I agree too Depack. When was the last time we had a DT that could collapse the pocket. I know ****. Hunt was paid to, but I don't remember him being successful at it. I guess we have to go back to the Holmgren years.

 

[cyoung]

Yeah KGB is very succesful at his job, he is no Reggie White, but if you look at his stats he is successful

 

[DePack]

Agreed DePack. We are still looking for that other Tackle. Jenkins had his chance and blew it. Hopefully Cole or Williams can step up

I agree too Depack. When was the last time we had a DT that could collapse the pocket. I know ****. Hunt was paid to, but I don't remember him being successful at it. I guess we have to go back to the Holmgren years.

Santana Dotson lined up next to Gilbert Brown. Reggie had more strength tha KGB but when he came around the end there was nowhere for the QB to step up to avoid him.

Pyle....I had high hopes for Jenkins. Do you think he is done?

 

[pyledriver80]

Agreed DePack. We are still looking for that other Tackle. Jenkins had his chance and blew it. Hopefully Cole or Williams can step up

I agree too Depack. When was the last time we had a DT that could collapse the pocket. I know ****. Hunt was paid to, but I don't remember him being successful at it. I guess we have to go back to the Holmgren years.

Santana Dodson lined up next to Gilbert Brown. Reggie had more strength tha KGB but when he came around the end there was nowhere for the QB to step up to avoid him.

Pyle....I had high hopes for Jenkins. Do you think he is done?

Unfortunately I think so. Kind of reminds of Fergie. He had the chance and he blew it. I always thought they should try him outside. I think Cole or Williams can step up though. They won't be dominant but they could be solid.

 

[pack_in_black]

I just read that Seattle has put DE Grant Wistrom on the block. They are said to be looking for depth at OL and DB. Didn't think I needed to start a new thread for this, but I wanted to see everyone's thoughts on possible trades for him.

 

[tromadz]

we dont need a DE, and we need the OL and DBs we have.

KGB\Kamp with Montgomery\Peterson as backups are fine with me.

just my opinion though.

 

[Zero2Cool]

Agreed DePack. We are still looking for that other Tackle. Jenkins had his chance and blew it. Hopefully Cole or Williams can step up

I agree too Depack. When was the last time we had a DT that could collapse the pocket. I know ****. Hunt was paid to, but I don't remember him being successful at it. I guess we have to go back to the Holmgren years.

Santana Dodson lined up next to Gilbert Brown. Reggie had more strength tha KGB but when he came around the end there was nowhere for the QB to step up to avoid him.

Pyle....I had high hopes for Jenkins. Do you think he is done?

Unfortunately I think so. Kind of reminds of Fergie. He had the chance and he blew it. I always thought they should try him outside. I think Cole or Williams can step up though. They won't be dominant but they could be solid.

Your high hopes were right on the money! I think Jenkins is far from done. I think he's on the upside.

 

[dhpackr]

wow this thread is old, why was it brought up?
KGB is playing great in his role as situational pass rusher

 

[jessefly]

i think kgb is doing good, although i do agree that we should rotate him in a nd out so he will last the whole game. I cant believe some of you people are saying we should replace him with some monster. in my opinion he is straight beast. we dont need any fat slow guys on the outside.

 

[Pack93z]

Unfortunately I think so. Kind of reminds of Fergie. He had the chance and he blew it. I always thought they should try him outside. I think Cole or Williams can step up though. They won't be dominant but they could be solid.

Your high hopes were right on the money! I think Jenkins is far from done. I think he's on the upside.

There is some value in his statement, the lights really didn't come completely on until Jenkins was moved outside. So in a way Pyle was correct in his statement.

By the way.. I think it is a little uncalled for to slam someone not only well after the fact but when he isn't around to defend his statement. But par for the course.

 

[Timmons]

Who is slamming who? It looks like Zero is saying that Pyle was right. And I appreciate a timely look back to old opinions. I dragged up a thread about Shockey after the giants game. Players abilities and performances change, and so do our opinions.

 

[Pack93z]

Maybe I am miss reading the quote above.. DePack asked Pyle if Jenkins was done.. Pyle responded with a "I think so"

Then

"Your high hopes were right on the money! I think Jenkins is far from done. I think he's on the upside. "

Yes looking back can be fun, but at anothers expense... either way it is what it is. Just didn't think it was fair is all.

 

[warhawk]

KGB does great in passing situations. My only thing with KGB is he sells his soul with an all out pass rush effort and opens up gaping holes for delays run to his side.

I remember last year when Alexander for Seattle just beat the left side(our defensive right side) to death over there and ran thru us badly.

Good teams are going to exploit KGB and take what he gives them so it's critical they use him accordingly.

Third and long the guys a beast.

 

[Pack93z]

KGB does great in passing situations. My only thing with KGB is he sells his soul with an all out pass rush effort and opens up gaping holes for delays run to his side.

I remember last year when Alexander for Seattle just beat the left side(our defensive right side) to death over there and ran thru us badly.

Good teams are going to exploit KGB and take what he gives them so it's critical they use him accordingly.

Third and long the guys a beast.

Agreed wholeheartedly... it was a wise move to make him a specialist in the passing game. Or at the very least, limit his snaps.

 

[KGB94SACKEM]

Unfortunately I think so. Kind of reminds of Fergie. He had the chance and he blew it. I always thought they should try him outside. I think Cole or Williams can step up though. They won't be dominant but they could be solid.

Your high hopes were right on the money! I think Jenkins is far from done. I think he's on the upside.

There is some value in his statement, the lights really didn't come completely on until Jenkins was moved outside. So in a way Pyle was correct in his statement.

By the way.. I think it is a little uncalled for to slam someone not only well after the fact but when he isn't around to defend his statement. But par for the course.

It looks like the statement was right on the money. I never like Cullen inside. It was brought up to slam someone or create chaos on the board because he was whining when his thread got locked for re-hashing old stuff. Turned out the original poster was correct in this case

 

[Zero2Cool]

Unfortunately I think so. Kind of reminds of Fergie. He had the chance and he blew it. I always thought they should try him outside. I think Cole or Williams can step up though. They won't be dominant but they could be solid.

Your high hopes were right on the money! I think Jenkins is far from done. I think he's on the upside.

There is some value in his statement, the lights really didn't come completely on until Jenkins was moved outside. So in a way Pyle was correct in his statement.

By the way.. I think it is a little uncalled for to slam someone not only well after the fact but when he isn't around to defend his statement. But par for the course.

It looks like the statement was right on the money. I never like Cullen inside. It was brought up to slam someone or create chaos on the board because he was whining when his thread got locked for re-hashing old stuff. Turned out the original poster was correct in this case

Quit it already. This cynical attitude is a waste of the internet's hard drive.


The thread was posted BECAUSE you were right. Pyle's comment wasn't supposed to be quoted in there.