Jordy Nelson injury

[G0P4ckG0]

Make Jordy the play caller for the rest of the season. Not completely joking.

 

[realcaliforniacheese]

this sucks sooooo bad. Just when we were primed, all our starters back and then Bang, sometimes if feels like we can't catch a break. But that's why I love football. The unpredictability of it. Time for someone to shine, 2013, David Bakhtairi, 2014, Corey Linsley, 2015 ?????

 

[Cato]

I agree. Terrible . Preseason for the Pack has not been kind.

 

[1940sfootball]

The Pack will 10-6 instead of 12-4 maybe. Not much of a problem. They'll be fine

 

[Jerellh528]

The Pack will 10-6 instead of 12-4 maybe. Not much of a problem. They'll be fine

That could potentially be the difference between missing the playoffs completely, and home field advantage throughout. Last year Eagles 10-6 missed playoffs, Seahawks 12-4 home field.

 

[adambr2]

The Pack will 10-6 instead of 12-4 maybe.

I doubt it. I mean they could go 10-6, or they could go 12-4, but I don't think they are going to lose 2 more games than they otherwise would have if Jordy hadn't gotten hurt.

 

[1940sfootball]

The Packers won't miss any playoffs this year. They'll be top 3 or better in nfc when it's all done

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

I agree the Packers will still feature one of the best offenses in the league. I prefer to continue playing Cobb in the slot though.

Yeah Cobb's way better out of the slot and doesn't have the size to play consistently outside. Maybe getting a veteran with some height and route running ability is best, but who could that be? Jones? I'd much rather see Janis step up now and get ARod's trust. Yes I know ARod will give players second chances but IMO Janis hasn't shown enough to be more than a #2 wide out. Let him play with the first team for the next two games and see if he can get better.

And get him off of punt returns. That's gonna be Hyde's job anyway. Whiffing on the punt yesterday is only going to mess with his head. As for that nice grab that was ruled out of bounds - well TJV pointed out that he had room to drag his left foot, something he has to learn. But it was an encouraging sign, one play or not. He has the requisite size and speed - has to work on routes and has to develop some chemistry with ARod. It took Jordy a number of years to develop, and I don't see nearly the same talent in Janis but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

What would help is if the other Rodgers becomes a real threat at TE. He has the hands, his route running is getting better. He can't block so throw Ripkowski in there. Getting more passes to Lacy underneath may be another way to compemsate for Nelson's loss.

Do you see Kuhn making the cut, given the rather impressive work of Ripkowski so far? I mean I know we're talking about Kuuuuuuuhhhhhnnnnnn! but the team has to come first.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

From Jordy Nelson's official Facebook page:

Thank you to my family, the Packers, my friends, my partners and Packers fans everywhere for your thoughts and prayers. I appreciate your loyalty and support and am looking forward to helping the team however I can as we focus on an exciting season ahead of us.

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What a guy.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

Whether or not we sign anyone, I would bet the house that someone is going to step up statistically, big time, just by default.

When Greg Jennings is a #1/#2 here and a #4 guy elsewhere, and Jones is a #2/#3 here and a roster bubble guy anywhere else, I've got to wonder how much the Aaron Rodgers effect is really worth.

That's a good point. Certainly Rodgers can make a lot of guys look better. Brady has been doing this for years. So I'm in on that bet as well, someone is going to greatly elevate his play. Right now the most likely candidate is Adams but without having to account for Jordy, Ds will overload on the next best talent.

I'm not worried. Too many weapons on that O. If the D can play as well as they did for MOST of the Seattle game, the SB is still very much in play.

Maybe the most pressure now is on Clements. He has to get creative and unpredictable. We shall see.

 

[Divot]

Adams is primed to have a big year anyhow. I think White will be better than Janis but both of them will get touches. They need to be our deep threats and get one long catch every other game or so.

 

[Joe Nor Cal Packer]

Unfortunately the mental part is the most important thing to gain Rodgers trust. I wonder why anyone would think Janis is better than Jones after the former Packer had a career-high 73 receptions last year while Janis played a total of 16 snaps.

Anyone who would take Janis over Jones right now, were he available, is nuts. And you seem to be one of the few here who understand what a receiver has to do to get ARod's attention. ARod hates to throw pics. So he has to be sure that a) a receiver will be where he's supposed to be and b) have very sure hands. Balls that bounce off a players hands or chest or anywhere else and pop up become easy pickins for a dback smart enough to stay around the ball. For a guy that throws single-digit pics over the course of a season, trust in the receiver is huge. You mentioned that Rodgers hasn't even looked at Janis yet. Now is the time to test it and Janis has to come through. I just don't know if it's even fair to expect that of him. But football isn't fair and most guys would kill for a chance like this. Let's see if Janis is up for it. He has the most to gain from the loss of Jordy IMO.

 

[TJV]

I prefer to continue playing Cobb in the slot though.

Wait a minute. Are you saying you'd rather have Cobb playing in the slot rather than outside? You haven't been very clear about that or persistent in making that point. Perhaps you could clarify?
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[searmh]

Bit worried with Nelson out Adams can step up but not seen a thing from Montgomery in preseason, Janis has looked good with the 2nd team and could be a good number 3 but some commentators seen to think we won't miss a beat on offence but I really don't see it at the moment and I think we will suffer with Nelson this year. I'd be inclined to bring a veteran in but I doubt Thompson will and I can understand that philosophy but I think we will suffer in big games

 

[Beagle]

Teams had success playing aggressive press coverage vs. Nelson or by double teaming him which opened rooms for other receivers. While teams have to be aware about where Cobb lined up all the time they put a lot of emphasis into containing Jordy as well.

Yeah, any WR that draws double coverage a lot is always doing more than their stats suggest.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Correct, which is why I say the 6' 1" 215 lbs. Adams is going to have to step up big time. He is never going to match Jordy's incredibly deceptive speed, but he should be able to play on the outside with rather good success.

There's no doubt Adams has to step up in a big way. With Nelson out for the season the Packers will need another receiver to be productive though.

Do you see Kuhn making the cut, given the rather impressive work of Ripkowski so far? I mean I know we're talking about Kuuuuuuuhhhhhnnnnnn! but the team has to come first.

I think both fullbacks will make the team. Ripkowski has made some great plays on special teams during the first two preseason games but has hardly played on offense (12 snaps).

 

[Vrill]

I doubt it. I mean they could go 10-6, or they could go 12-4, but I don't think they are going to lose 2 more games than they otherwise would have if Jordy hadn't gotten hurt.

Agreed. We could have went 10-6 WITH Jordy. Jordy isn't going to make or break our season. Rodgers is a elite QB and he'll adapt. Its what the great ones do. If we were destined to go 12-4/13-3, we can still go 12-4/13-3. Don't forget people, we still have a elite WR in Cobb, a promising up and comer in Adams and one of the best RB's in the game on our team. We have weapons right now that other teams would kill to have. We are just spoiled here when it comes to offense.

I bet Cobb has a monster year and challenges that 112 catch season that Sterling Sharpe had for us back in 1993.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Agreed. We could have went 10-6 WITH Jordy. Jordy isn't going to make or break our season. Rodgers is a elite QB and he'll adapt. Its what the great ones do. If we were destined to go 12-4/13-3, we can still go 12-4/13-3. Don't forget people, we still have a elite WR in Cobb, a promising up and comer in Adams and one of the best RB's in the game on our team. We have weapons right now that other teams would kill to have. We are just spoiled here when it comes to offense.

I bet Cobb has a monster year and challenges that 112 catch season that Sterling Sharpe had for us back in 1993.

The Packers still have a very good offense but there´s no doubt in my mind Nelson will be missed. He was by far the best outside receiver on the roster and opponents will now be able to shift their coverage towards Cobb and Adams. Even with Rodgers being the best QB in the game some other receivers have to step up for this offense to not miss a beat. As of right now I´m not totally convinced either one of Montgomery, Janis, White or someone else is capable of though.

 

[adambr2]

The Packers are surely not sitting fat at WR.

Have you seen many of the #1s and #2's throughout the conference ? Doug Baldwin? An ancient Larry Fitzgerald? Brian Quick? Torrey Smith? Charles Johnson is a #2 in Minnesota. Who do the Bears have after Jeffrey? Eddie Royal. Anyone else? Carolina, who won their division last year, has Devin Funchess as their top wide receiver, who has not played a single down in the NFL. Devin. Funchess.

IMO we've gotten so used to being stacked at WR in the TT era that anything else seems unsuitable. We don't need to be afraid of young players getting a lot of snaps at WR, if they can prove they belong in that role.

I'll still take Cobb and Adams over the majority of 1/2 punches in the NFL, especially when you add in the best QB in the NFL and one of the game's most potent rushing attacks.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Have you seen many of the #1s and #2's throughout the conference ? Doug Baldwin? An ancient Larry Fitzgerald? Brian Quick? Torrey Smith? Charles Johnson is a #2 in Minnesota. Who do the Bears have after Jeffrey? Eddie Royal. Anyone else? Devin Funchess is the #1 WR in Carolina. Devin. Funchess.

IMO we've gotten so used to being stacked at WR in the TT era that anything else seems unsuitable. We don't need to be afraid of young players getting a lot of snaps at WR, if they can prove they belong in that role.

I'll still take Cobb and Adams over the majority of 1/2 punches in the NFL, especially when you add in the best QB in the NFL and one of the game's most potent rushing attacks.

Most of the teams you mentioned above (aside of the Bears) depend on their defense to win games though. In addition only Seattle and Arizona went over .500 out of that group and both passing offenses have other weapons in Jimmy Graham as well as John Brown and Michael Floyd.

Cobb is the best slot receiver in the game and Adams will hopefully take a major step in his second season and become a dominant receiver on the outside. The Packers will need some other weapons to step up to continue to be one of the highest scoring teams in the league though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Besides AR, one of the reasons our offense has been one of the top offenses over the last several years is its receiving corp. IMO our receivers have helped AR almost as much as he has helped them in the Stat department. Would AR have the same numbers playing with average receivers on another team? I doubt it. With the loss of Jordy and without bringing in another Veteran WR to take his place, this year is going to be a very good test of AR. A test to see what he can do with 1 very good WR and a pretty much unproven compliment of WR's and TE's to go with Cobb.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Besides AR, one of the reasons our offense has been one of the top offenses over the last several years is its receiving corp. IMO our receivers have helped AR almost as much as he has helped them in the Stat department. Would AR have the same numbers playing with average receivers on another team? I doubt it. With the loss of Jordy and without bringing in another Veteran WR to take his place, this year is going to be a very good test of AR. A test to see what he can do with 1 very good WR and a pretty much unproven compliment of WR's and TE's to go with Cobb.

There´s absolutely no doubt in my mind that Rodgers makes WRs better. That only applies for receivers he absolutely trusts though and inexperienced players or rookies have a hard time accomplishing that.

Over the last seven seasons no rookie has caught more than 38 passes with the Packers or been targeted more than 66 times. In addition only three first-year receivers (Nelson, Cobb and Adams) have caught at least 10 passes or had at least 100 receiving yards.

There´s hope that Adams and Richard Rodgers will take a major step in their second seasons but I don´t expect any inexperienced receiver to put up huge numbers with #12 at QB.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Can't agree with you more Captain and this is what has me a "bit nervous" about the current situation. We have all seen Rodgers get a bit impatient with the younger guys during a game. When he gets in a groove and he and his receivers are all on the same page, its poetry in motion. So lets hope this trust is established quickly and early with the guys taking up the slack Jordy has left behind.

I'm still a firm believer that if we can get Jones back, we do it. His knowledge of our playbook and experience playing with AR has to be an upgrade at the #3 position as well as some insurance in case of an injury to Cobb or Adams. We aren't rebuilding, this is a Super Bowl run, isn't a 6th or 7th worth giving up for some experience and insurance?

 

[adambr2]

Most of the teams you mentioned above (aside of the Bears) depend on their defense to win games though. In addition only Seattle and Arizona went over .500 out of that group and both passing offenses have other weapons in Jimmy Graham as well as John Brown and Michael Floyd.

Cobb is the best slot receiver in the game and Adams will hopefully take a major step in his second season and become a dominant receiver on the outside. The Packers will need some other weapons to step up to continue to be one of the highest scoring teams in the league though.

I do agree that some other weapons are going to have to step up now. I just don't think the weapons we have now are insufficient. Of course if we want to try to bring in Jones again, I'm all for it.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I just don't think the weapons we have now are insufficient. Of course if we want to try to bring in Jones again, I'm all for it.

I don´t think the Packers offensive weapons are insufficient either. On the other hand I´m convinced that it will be way tougher to lead the league in scoring once again without Nelson.