It’s now OFFICIAL!!! Rodgers has been traded to the Jets.

[tynimiller]

Sounds like the Jets are releasing Mims, if they can't find a trade partner. Maybe you will get your wish

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Mims is 100% a WR I like as a low risk, depth option to see if a new surrounding helps. Issue I have is now there isn't much reason to bring him that we drafted three more and Melton/Cotton are also in house from last year.

 

[tynimiller]

Also...my hunch is if Jets want more than a 7th for him, it'd need to be a pick swap...like our 5th for your 6th jets and Mims type deal.

 

[OldSchool101]

Also...my hunch is if Jets want more than a 7th for him, it'd need to be a pick swap...like our 5th for your 6th jets and Mims type deal.

I like that swap idea.
Although I’m not sure I’d want to bring in Mims, I’d rather get these young guys some experience while expectations are lower. In a normal season it would make more sense though
I’m kinda of excited to see how all these green peas gel. I know that sounds weird but it’s a weird season

 

[tynimiller]

I like that swap idea.
Although I’m not sure I’d want to bring in Mims, I’d rather get these young guys some experience while expectations are lower. In a normal season it would make more sense though
I’m kinda of excited to see how all these green peas gel. I know that sounds weird but it’s a weird season

Oh that's why I said in the post before what I did, given what we did WR wise, I'm not trading anything for him. Now if they cut him, I'm for sure giving him a jingle.

 

[OldSchool101]

Oh that's why I said in the post before what I did, given what we did WR wise, I'm not trading anything for him. Now if they cut him, I'm for sure giving him a jingle.

Interesting note. Denzel Mims was at #28 on the NFL Mock draft database consensus board. Just after Love’s #24 ranking and ahead of Tee Higgins consensus #33 ranking

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Interesting note. Denzel Mims was at #28 on the NFL Mock draft database consensus board. Just after Love’s #24 ranking and ahead of Tee Higgins consensus #33 ranking

Better be careful, starting that discussion up again....but yeah...SB's in 2020,2021 and 2022 had we selected Mims!

 

[Schultz]

IMO you guys don't have to worry.

 

[OldSchool101]

IMO you guys don't have to worry.

Oh I’m not trying or going to inflame the topic. Just more pointing out I’m glad we didn’t take Denzel there, he’s just not very good. Obviously Tee ended up being worth that area value wise.

Thankfully we’ll get a good look at our guy very soon. Camp is this week and we’re 3 weeks from Preseason

 

[OldSchool101]

Aaron Rodgers took a generous $35 million pay cut for the Jets and everyone roasted the Packers

He’s willing to help a team he actually likes.

ftw.usatoday.com

I find this hilarious. After I suggested this recently for Aaron while still in GB.. I had posters tell me it would not, could not and will not happen. Here it is! Would not could not with a pen… don’t say would not could not ever again!

 

[gopkrs]

Aaron Rodgers took a generous $35 million pay cut for the Jets and everyone roasted the Packers

He’s willing to help a team he actually likes.

ftw.usatoday.com

I find this hilarious. After I suggested this recently for Aaron while still in GB.. I had posters tell me it would not, could not and will not happen. Here it is! Would not could not with a pen… don’t say would not could not ever again!

I'm skeptical. I'll have to see how it washes out. What the "real" ramifications are for ARod. And I guess to their salary cap.

 

[Voyageur]

I'd guess that big cut has some longer term implications to it. I doubt if he'd just do it out of the kindness of his heart. It's probably a way of backloading contract money so they can sign additional people to make a run. But, that's just a guess, since I haven't dug into the details, and don't really care.

 

[Pkrjones]

He reduced the guaranteed $ from $110Mil to $75Mil over the next 2 years. I'm guessing he's banking on additional NY marketing deals that'll more than make up the difference. By ingratiating himself with the NY fans it'll work if they have any kind of early season success.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I agree with all of you, at least to the idea of "wait and see" how the contract really washes out. I read that it is spread over 5 years, so that also is very beneficial to the Jets cap.

If A-Rod actually handed the Jets $35M back, then he goes down another peg on my A-Rod Packer legacy board. Since doing so would be an obvious move to help the team to be a better team. Something he seemed to never want to do in Green Bay, where he seemed to take as much as he could get and complained about management not doing enough.

If this turns out to just be another creative twisting and shifting of numbers and it didn't cost A-Rod anything or benefited him more, than that wouldn't surprise me either. Hard living on only $75M over 2 years.

 

[Zartan]

Now he takes a pay cut... Guess he really wants a ring in NY.

I hope he plays 60% or so of snaps so we get 1st round pick.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I hope he plays 60% or so of snaps so we get 1st round pick.

I'm hoping this happens AND the Jets go 1-16.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Aaron Rodgers is no longer on the Packers. I could care less if he plays for a dollar for the Jets. I hope Love is really good and that the Packers get the best draft pick possible from the Jets. Rodgers will, and should, go down in history as the best QB in Packers' history and he is, imo, the best QB in NFL history but too many media rest on the "RINGZZZZ" argument because they are too lazy to do more than count on their fingers and so they'll say Brady is the best ever (note, Mahomes may close that gap and overtake Rodgers but he's got a lot of years to go yet).

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Aaron Rodgers is no longer on the Packers. I could care less if he plays for a dollar for the Jets. I hope Love is really good and that the Packers get the best draft pick possible from the Jets. Rodgers will, and should, go down in history as the best QB in Packers' history and he is, imo, the best QB in NFL history but too many media rest on the "RINGZZZZ" argument because they are too lazy to do more than count on their fingers and so they'll say Brady is the best ever (note, Mahomes may close that gap and overtake Rodgers but he's got a lot of years to go yet).

While I would agree that Rodgers should be included in the discussion of top all time NFL QB's, I think he falls short on a few important things and those things will always keep him out as a consensus #1. I won't rehash them, but you mentioned Rings and I will mention leadership and his off the field shenanigans, as his other 2 negatives.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

While I would agree that Rodgers should be included in the discussion of top all time NFL QB's, I think he falls short on a few important things and those things will always keep him out as a consensus #1. I won't rehash them, but you mentioned Rings and I will mention leadership and his off the field shenanigans, as his other 2 negatives.

Outside of a couple of players who left on bad terms, I've only ever heard his teammates loving him. The "bad leadership" thing is just weird. I mean, the current players on the team right now still love the guy, Rodgers is still talking with Love to provide support. Sorry that I don't take Greg Jennings as the end-all-be-all on leadership evaluation. Off field I absolutely agree with but, unless he's been beating women or running people over, I try not to let that evaluate my on-field opinion of him.

 

[gopkrs]

He reduced the guaranteed $ from $110Mil to $75Mil over the next 2 years. I'm guessing he's banking on additional NY marketing deals that'll more than make up the difference. By ingratiating himself with the NY fans it'll work if they have any kind of early season success.

That's sort of what I am thinking also. I think the NFL needs to be aware and that it is not some *** for tat thing that the Jets are somehow guaranteeing. That would play havoc with the salary cap all around the league and I am sure illegal for NFL rules. More likely it washes out during the length of the contract.

 

[OldSchool101]

I'm hoping this happens AND the Jets go 1-16.

That would be fun. If we pick anywhere in that top #20 range with the Jets selection that would be huge. A top 5-10 area + top 20 area would be amazing. Especially if we had a 3-4 game Win streak to end the season and finished 5-12 0r 6-11 trending upwards

 

[mradtke66]

If A-Rod actually handed the Jets $35M back, then he goes down another peg on my A-Rod Packer legacy board. Since doing so would be an obvious move to help the team to be a better team. Something he seemed to never want to do in Green Bay, where he seemed to take as much as he could get and complained about management not doing enough.

I don't see the money necessarily something he did to be malicious or generous to either team.

It is my opinion, after the drafting of Love, Rodgers wanted a concrete gesture that said, "We want you to stay." A lot of money and some cap penalties for trading him early provided the gesture.

By trading a 2 and a (likely) 1 for him and signing some players he desired, the Jets have provided a similar gesture. Ergo, he's likely willing to be more flexible on the money front.

 

[OldSchool101]

The main point is players do work with teams. I was told by numerous fans this would never happen in a million years.

It’s like a psychological roller coaster with brief stops at Comedy Central Station with Aaron. I’m in suspense at what might happen next….NOT!

 

[mradtke66]

The main point is players do work with teams. I was told by numerous fans this would never happen in a million years.

They certainly do, but it is a two-way street between employer and employee.

It's been hashed out, but clearly the relationship between the FO and Rodgers was broken. Throwing raw cash and structuring it a certain way signaled commitment, so the relationship improved, at least in the short term.

(I think the whole thing, when and how Love was drafted, Rodgers' being on-camera during the pick, his follow up reaction, the specific structure of the contract, was a comedy of errors all the way down. It turned into a back and forth of escalation that didn't need to happen and as it happened, the normal levers to smooth over employee/employer relationships couldn't work, leaving money as the only one left.

Money was probably always going to be part of the calculus, but communication earlier, probably would have made it cheaper. )

 

[OldSchool101]

They certainly do, but it is a two-way street between employer and employee.

It's been hashed out, but clearly the relationship between the FO and Rodgers was broken. Throwing raw cash and structuring it a certain way signaled commitment, so the relationship improved, at least in the short term.

(I think the whole thing, when and how Love was drafted, Rodgers' being on-camera during the pick, his follow up reaction, the specific structure of the contract, was a comedy of errors all the way down. It turned into a back and forth of escalation that didn't need to happen and as it happened, the normal levers to smooth over employee/employer relationships couldn't work, leaving money as the only one left.

Money was probably always going to be part of the calculus, but communication earlier, probably would have made it cheaper. )

Totally agree. Some blame goes to our GM also. imo he was still kinda green as a GM here and things should’ve been handled better on the communication front and Aaron mentioned that and I agree with that. It’s a respect/trust thing.
As you mentioned, lack of communication will often end up doing that and us missing a quick, frank discussion rarely works out positive for either party.

 

[mradtke66]

As you mentioned, lack of communication will often end up doing that and us missing a quick, frank discussion rarely works out positive for either party.

Completely. A simple message of, "Hey Aaron, we're worried about your collar bones breaking two times. We like this kid, if he's there, we probably will take him. You're still our guy, he's a 2 year extension with some money to prove it," and just like that, the whole thing probably doesn't happen.