It’s now OFFICIAL!!! Rodgers has been traded to the Jets.

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Haven't watched any Hard Knocks, just watched him during his 2 series in the final Jets Preseason game. There were many times that his anger and frustration spilled out onto the field during a Packer game, but nothing, at least on film, with that kind of negative emotion from Rodgers. Now that isn't to say he didn't act that way during Packer practices and in the locker room. Doesn't surprise me though, when you spend your life trying to always act like a cool cucumber, there are going to be times that you just lose your ****.
If you put in Aaron Rodgers yells into a search engine endless articles come up of him yelling at coaches and wide receivers. This is not a new thing. The too cool for school attitude has only been towards the media.
 

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I do think this is the way he was. A few years ago it came out that he was riding the rookie wide receivers and they didn't like it. Also, while watching Hard Knocks Cobb said to the wide receiver group that they better figure it out or Rodgers will be all over them. I don't think there is any doubt he has been harsh his whole career. Or, at the very least, after he became a team captain.

He was definitely not joking. He is old school and uses anger to motivate his teammates. Those that can't hack it are mentally weak. Brady was the same way. Neither have problems getting in the face of teammates or opponents.
Agreed. And I don't mind a guy that talented trying to motivate younger guys. But that's not the way to motivate, by throwing a superstar hissy fit.
 

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Haven't watched any Hard Knocks, just watched him during his 2 series in the final Jets Preseason game. There were many times that his anger and frustration spilled out onto the field during a Packer game, but nothing, at least on film, with that kind of negative emotion from Rodgers. Now that isn't to say he didn't act that way during Packer practices and in the locker room. Doesn't surprise me though, when you spend your life trying to always act like a cool cucumber, there are going to be times that you just lose your ****.
It will be interesting to see how Rodgers reacts on field if the Jets are 5-4 or 4-5 midway through the season. Maybe he'll tell all the NY fans and media to R-E-L-A-X. Yeah, yeah! That's the ticket!
 

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It will be interesting to see how Rodgers reacts on field if the Jets are 5-4 or 4-5 midway through the season. Maybe he'll tell all the NY fans and media to R-E-L-A-X. Yeah, yeah! That's the ticket!
I'd prefer to see what he does and says, when the Jets are 0-6 ;)
 

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It will be interesting to see how Rodgers reacts on field if the Jets are 5-4 or 4-5 midway through the season. Maybe he'll tell all the NY fans and media to R-E-L-A-X. Yeah, yeah! That's the ticket!
If they're 4-5 or worse the NY media will make his life miserable. It will be incredible theater. As far as I'm concerned, Rodgers needs to play into the 12th game. After that I don't care what happens.
 

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If they're 4-5 or worse the NY media will make his life miserable. It will be incredible theater. As far as I'm concerned, Rodgers needs to play into the 12th game. After that I don't care what happens.
+/- 65% of the snaps?
 

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If they're 4-5 or worse the NY media will make his life miserable. It will be incredible theater. As far as I'm concerned, Rodgers needs to play into the 12th game. After that I don't care what happens.
Would you rather ...
Packers make NFC division round and Jets draft pick is in the 40s
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Packers have both 1st round picks in low teens.

I know the best option is Packers get Jets top 5 pick after winning the Super Bowl but that isn't an option in this scenario.
 

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Would you rather ...
Packers make NFC division round and Jets draft pick is in the 40s
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Packers have both 1st round picks in low teens.

I know the best option is Packers get Jets top 5 pick after winning the Super Bowl but that isn't an option in this scenario.
I like those two picks in the low teens. It allows for a trade up, or a trade for a bunch of picks, probably one in the 1st, and a 3rd & 4th. Since there's so much that needs to be done, I'd be looking for numbers to get those weak spots filled.
 

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I'd prefer to see what he does and says, when the Jets are 0-6 ;)

Nope I'm selfish...they gotta have three or four wins around trade deadline time to keep playing him. I could easily see them pulling the plug on him to protect the first rounder (under the guise of an "injury") if they're 0-6 or 0-7
 

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Would you rather ...
Packers make NFC division round and Jets draft pick is in the 40s
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Packers have both 1st round picks in low teens.

I know the best option is Packers get Jets top 5 pick after winning the Super Bowl but that isn't an option in this scenario.
Good point Poppa. This is a pretty good GB team that would probably get a lot better with two first round picks next year. They ideally get one or two impact players and finally some cap relief for a few years. Kinda perfect if it works out.

This is a tough one. Packers have a mediocre season but show signs of growth as a team and get a top 15 pick. I'm ok with that. Rodgers plays 65% of the Jets snaps and the Packers get another 1st round pick, probably around low to mid 20s. That might be the most likely scenario - although some sports pundits are putting the Packers at 10-7 and a wild card. No one knows, yet.

Whatever, two first round picks sounds very good.
 

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I watched the last episode of Hard Knocks last night. I was very unimpressed. I really liked the first three episodes. This one stunk. I showed the players going to some dumb play and talking with the actors afterwards. Then it had Rodgers telling his story about seeing a UFO. I'm like, show me the football baby! Let's go! Nope, just a bunch of dumbness.
 

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Truthfully I don't care, likely to end up with three picks inside the Top 60 either way this whole thing goes - give me a team that has a QB of the future emerging, one or two WRs/TEs that truly lock in the thought of them being NFL future stars and a progressing defense and I'll be peachy clear through to next season.

If that is connected to a 4 win team, 8 win team, 12 win team doesn't matter.
 

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Truthfully I don't care, likely to end up with three picks inside the Top 60 either way this whole thing goes - give me a team that has a QB of the future emerging, one or two WRs/TEs that truly lock in the thought of them being NFL future stars and a progressing defense and I'll be peachy clear through to next season.

If that is connected to a 4 win team, 8 win team, 12 win team doesn't matter.
Rodgers was a great investment. What other draft pick turns into a 15 year starter, competitive every year, and still walk away with the ransom the Packers did? Great return on investment.
 

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Truthfully I don't care, likely to end up with three picks inside the Top 60 either way this whole thing goes - give me a team that has a QB of the future emerging, one or two WRs/TEs that truly lock in the thought of them being NFL future stars and a progressing defense and I'll be peachy clear through to next season.

If that is connected to a 4 win team, 8 win team, 12 win team doesn't matter.
That's pretty much how I feel. I'd happily sacrifice one season of only 3 or 4 wins, if as you said the team is on the right track. I say 3 or 4 wins, because I think that a top 5 pick in each round of the 2024 draft would help even more. Dream scenario (short of a SB), Jets give us the #1 pick in the draft and the Packers provide themselves with the #2 pick in each and every round by having a lot of close loses, but lots of progression.

Just making the playoffs, to get bounced from the first round, sorry, not my cup of tea.
 

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I watched the last episode of Hard Knocks last night. I was very unimpressed. I really liked the first three episodes. This one stunk. I showed the players going to some dumb play and talking with the actors afterwards. Then it had Rodgers telling his story about seeing a UFO. I'm like, show me the football baby! Let's go! Nope, just a bunch of dumbness.
Rodgers seeing a UFO. Why am I not surprised? It's probably his mothership waiting to take him back home to Planet Ayahuasca in the Goofball Nebula, where he was born and raised.
 

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Truthfully I don't care, likely to end up with three picks inside the Top 60 either way this whole thing goes - give me a team that has a QB of the future emerging, one or two WRs/TEs that truly lock in the thought of them being NFL future stars and a progressing defense and I'll be peachy clear through to next season.

If that is connected to a 4 win team, 8 win team, 12 win team doesn't matter.
Couldn't have said it better Ty, thanks.
 

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That's pretty much how I feel. I'd happily sacrifice one season of only 3 or 4 wins, if as you said the team is on the right track. I say 3 or 4 wins, because I think that a top 5 pick in each round of the 2024 draft would help even more. Dream scenario (short of a SB), Jets give us the #1 pick in the draft and the Packers provide themselves with the #2 pick in each and every round by having a lot of close loses, but lots of progression.

Just making the playoffs, to get bounced from the first round, sorry, not my cup of tea.
Yeah your comment about the playoffs is interesting. I wanna see this team grow together, which will involve a lot of correctable mistakes, some wins, most likely more losses. I don't give a damn as long as they're moving forward and playing smarter each week.

At this point, the team would likely benefit more from high draft picks next year than a one-and-done playoff appearance. Kind of odd to say I don't care about the Ws and Ls, but I would much rather see meaningful progress. And that's a reasonable expectation IMO.
 

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If they're 4-5 or worse the NY media will make his life miserable. It will be incredible theater. As far as I'm concerned, Rodgers needs to play into the 12th game. After that I don't care what happens.
I took a beating last year when I talked about benching Rodgers to give Love 5 games of experience as the starting QB, as well as potentially improve the Packers draft position. If the Jets take that stance, after what they paid for Rodgers in draft capital and salary, the media and NY fans are going to go absolutely batshit crazy. That wouldn't be just giving up on a season to protect 32 positions on a single draft pick, that would be admitting that Rodgers was a mistake in the first place and have more ramifications for them in 2024 than just the change in pick.

They didn't trade for Rodgers to play for 1 year, they want him there for the rest of his career. Maybe this season doesn't go as planned for them, but unless Rodgers absolutely stinks, benching him due to the conditions on that pick, would be franchise suicide.
 

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I took a beating last year when I talked about benching Rodgers to give Love 5 games of experience as the starting QB, as well as potentially improve the Packers draft position. If the Jets take that stance, after what they paid for Rodgers in draft capital and salary, the media and NY fans are going to go absolutely batshit crazy. That wouldn't be just giving up on a season to protect 32 positions on a single draft pick, that would be admitting that Rodgers was a mistake in the first place and have more ramifications for them in 2024 than just the change in pick.

They didn't trade for Rodgers to play for 1 year, they want him there for the rest of his career. Maybe this season doesn't go as planned for them, but unless Rodgers absolutely stinks, benching him due to the conditions on that pick, would be franchise suicide.
Well said. I do recall your suggestion that GB let Love play those last 5 games. That was the optimal call, but as long as they had a chance at the playoffs and a 4-time MVP, Rodgers wasn't going to sit. Ironic then that it all collapsed in another heart-breaking loss at home.

And the pressure for Rodgers to play every snap, barring injury, will be overwhelming. They didn't give up that much draft capital expecting Rodgers to play one year.

I don't know what to expect from the Jets. The organization has put themselves under an incredible amount of pressure - returning DROY and OROY, an elite D, and now Rodgers. I think the O line is the weak spot, and Rodgers isn't very elusive any more, but he is smart. I mean the Jets could win 12 games, or win 9 or less. Can't say I'd be surprised by either.

But one telling sign that Rodgers is exerting influence is the arrival of Lazard, Cobb, Turner. Other than Lazard, I'm guessing the Jets could have filled the Cobb and Turner spots with better players.

Just get Rodgers 65% of the snaps, and then I don't give a **** what the Jets do.
 

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