Is it time?

Release or trade

  • Keep

    Votes: 11 22.9%
  • Realease or trade

    Votes: 29 60.4%
  • Retire

    Votes: 8 16.7%

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Any bets on how many times in the last 24 hrs. Jordan Love has refreshed his search of "Aaron Rodgers News"? :coffee:

He might even have multiple phones around him, just in case one dies!

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The Jets front office and their fans have not had to deal with Rodgers in the way that the Packers side of it has. Why did the Packers dump Brett Favre? Pretty much for some of the same reasons. Turned out ok for the Packers, despite not getting much in the trade. I think the organization and many fans feel that the relationship has become toxic and a parting of the ways, might be best for both sides. This isn't much different than a divorce. 2 people split because the relationship finally ran its course. Doesn't mean that either person wont be desperately wanted by someone else.
Meh, I don't buy that analogy at all. There's way more to a marriage, like children and true investment, that are in that equation. Regardless, it seems to be trending hard that he will be traded. My point is that without the media we wouldn't know about the drama. I don't understand how the relationship with the fans is toxic. We watch him play football. That's the extent of our relationship. I could get that there may be drama with the front office. We don't know what is done and said behind closed doors. They have to coexist day in and day out. Again, I don't pay attention to the national media. My investment is sitting on the couch for three hours and I want to watch the best players that my favorite team can get. There's not much more to it than that. I've enjoyed Rodgers play the last 18 years and would like to extend that a couple years if possible. I do think that it is a win win for the Pack. Either they get Rodgers back or they get a return on an 18 year investment.
 

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I could get that there may be drama with the front office. We don't know what is done and said behind closed doors. They have to coexist day in and day out. Again, I don't pay attention to the national media. My investment is sitting on the couch for three hours and I want to watch the best players that my favorite team can get. There's not much more to it than that.
Yet, here you/we are discussing and debating it. ;)
 

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Yet, here you are discussing and debating it. ;)
I mean, I like talking about the Packers. I'm more interested in the outcome of the player than the "relationship". I want to know if he is going to be our QB or not. Sports are fun!
 

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Another side bet, is Aaron sending texts like "Getting close now" or "Are you sitting down rookie?" to Jordan?


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Quick comparison of Garoppolo's & AR's career stats:
Completion %: JG-67.6%, AR-65.5%; Avg. yds/att: JG-8.3, AR-7.7; TD%: JG-5.0%, AR-6.2%; Int%: JG-2.2%, AR-1.4%; Rating: JG-99.6, AR-103.6.

Might be fun for announcers & fans to bag on Jimmy, but he stacks up pretty well to our 4X MVP FHOF'r. Once again, if I'm the NYJ's GM I'm signing Garoppolo for $15-$30Mil/yr and saving my draft picks vs. getting AR onto the team.
One thing I would caution though is that we’re arguably wanting results now if we’re the Jets. A #13 plus a current #45 (or equivalent) and $40m over 2 seasons and you get QB #2 in the Postseason. Would you still take QB #1?

Postseason
Jimmy G (7 games)
71.4 Passer rating
4TD 6INT
60.6% passing
137.4 YPG

Aaron Rodgers (22 games)
100.1 Passer rating
45TD 13INT
64.7% passing
267.9 YPG

We need to remember failure this season is not an option. Remember that your career and others teammates and staff’s well-being for their families are on the line here.
 
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I'm sorry, I do not know what you speak of.

Deshaun Watson...if a team's desire proves the value of someone to their current team Deshaun Watson literally got handed a Brinks truck and Texans got TONS of draft choices...

Rodgers has value yes, but Jets are in a MUCH different situation than the Packers and have zero history with him which agree or disagree anyone has to admit the past two or three years have been anything but "fun" in the off season between organization and Rodgers.
 

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I really don't doubt that most of the players are going to either feel and say or just say what AJ said about Aaron AND Jordan Love as well. However, they are not making the decisions that the Front Office and Matt are making.

I doubt we will ever hear (publicly) how Gute and Murphy feel about Rodgers, but just the fact that the situation is where it is at today, says something about they feel.
Does the fact that they signed him to that contract last year also tell us how they feel or felt? Asking for a friend.
 

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Does the fact that they signed him to that contract last year also tell us how they feel or felt? Asking for a friend.
Sure it does, tell us how they felt at the time. Much like a spouse might feel in a marriage that is circling the drain. This whole "they signed him to a new deal, so therefore they must have been 100% happy" argument is really a strawman one. We have no clue just how happy they were and the fact that here we are again, 1 year later, indicates to me, that they must not have been too happy.
 

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One thing I would caution though is that we’re arguably wanting results now if we’re the Jets. A #13 plus a current #45 (or equivalent) and $40m over 2 seasons and you get QB #2 in the Postseason. Would you still take QB #1?

Postseason
Jimmy G (7 games)
71.4 Passer rating
4TD 6INT
60.6% passing
137.4 YPG

Aaron Rodgers (22 games)
100.1 Passer rating
45TD 13INT
64.7% passing
267.9 YPG

We need to remember failure this season is not an option. Remember that your career and others teammates and staff’s well-being for their families are on the line here.
Jimmy G. 49ers running game, defense, special teams
AR- GB running game, defense, special teams.
 

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Sure it does, tell us how they felt at the time. Much like a spouse might feel in a marriage that is circling the drain. This whole "they signed him to a new deal, so therefore they must have been 100% happy" argument is really a strawman one. We have no clue just how happy they were and the fact that here we are again, 1 year later, indicates to me, that they must not have been too happy.
Or they badly overrated their roster and coaching staff. Or they incorrectly thought that Adams would stay if AR signed. IMO both. It is quite possible IMO the change of heart had nothing or very little to do with Rodgers and was the result of them waking up and realizing even with him they are a mediocre team.
 

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Jimmy G. 49ers running game, defense, special teams
AR- GB running game, defense, special teams.
Good points, nothing happens alone in a bottle in the NFL, lots of factors influence how an individual plays, as well as his individual stats. So to be fair, I would add in OL and receivers.
 

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Or they badly overrated their roster and coaching staff. Or they incorrectly thought that Adams would stay if AR signed. IMO both. It is quite possible IMO the change of heart had nothing or very little to do with Rodgers and was the result of them waking up and realizing even with him they are a mediocre team.
Could be a little bit of both, but this is the 3rd straight offseason that there has been waffling on both sides. With 2 of those times coming after 13 win seasons. Rodgers was also playing injured most of last year, with mostly rookie and inexperienced WR's, so there is that too.

But yeah, throw in Jordan Love, Rodgers waffling, his age and there are a lot of other reasons why the Packer front office may want to trade Aaron and they aren't all just because Aaron was being Aaron off the field.
 
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Jimmy G. 49ers running game, defense, special teams
AR- GB running game, defense, special teams.
I’ll just say this. Had we switched QB’s whenever Jimmy Garappolo first started onto those two respective teams?
Imo. The 49ers would have 1-2 more SuperBowl rings with #12 and The Packers with Jimmy G would have both a new HC and new FO, because Brian and Matt would be sharpening their dull resume for another job.
This is a fair to good QB compared to a near-Elite to Elite QB.
 

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I would actually like to see Jimmy G. go a few seasons without injuries and without teams baggin' on him. Seems like he has become the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL.

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Not sure how others are feeling, but man this feels like Favre Déjà vu 2, now I am just waiting for the 2 pressers. Gute announcing it to Packer fans and Rodgers addressing Jets fans.
 
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I would actually like to see Jimmy G. go a few seasons without injuries and without teams baggin' on him. Seems like he has become the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL.

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I just want to see Jimmy throw a 1:1
TD:INT ratio in the postseason. I mean that’s just asking for 1 TD with each 1 INT he tosses. Is it too much to ask?? :coffee:

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Ultimately then Green Bay's options are of course 1.) Rodgers returns; 2.) Rodgers retires; or 3.) Rodgers is traded. And I think we would prefer #3 (for the right price) at this point, but also would be okay with (and prepared for) #2.

I would definitely prefer the first option.

But I do agree with the ultimate sentiment: this should have been worked out years ago, one way or another.

I'm not sure I understand you correctly but do you suggest the Packers should have traded Rodgers years ago?

I don't understand why #3 is such a bad option, from the NYJ's perspective? They need a vet QB to shore-up the offense for a year or 2 until Zach Wilson gets his mechanics fixed and matures a lot.

I highly doubt Zach Wilson will ever develop into a decent NFL quarterback.

I know folks like hearing direct thoughts from lips of players, Aaron Jones on GMFB

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Talks Rodgers to Jets, Jordan Love and such.

It seems that Aaron Jones, despite the entire organization being disgusted by Rodgers, desperately wants him to return to the team :whistling:

Sure it does, tell us how they felt at the time. Much like a spouse might feel in a marriage that is circling the drain. This whole "they signed him to a new deal, so therefore they must have been 100% happy" argument is really a strawman one. We have no clue just how happy they were and the fact that here we are again, 1 year later, indicates to me, that they must not have been too happy.

Gutekunst would be a complete moron and not capable of being the general manager of an NFL franchise if he signed Rodgers to that extension despite not being happy about it.
 

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Deshaun Watson...if a team's desire proves the value of someone to their current team Deshaun Watson literally got handed a Brinks truck and Texans got TONS of draft choices...

Rodgers has value yes, but Jets are in a MUCH different situation than the Packers and have zero history with him which agree or disagree anyone has to admit the past two or three years have been anything but "fun" in the off season between organization and Rodgers.
Again, I don't pay attention to what players are doing in the offseason. I don't care about the darkness retreat or who any of the players are dating. My investment is watching the games. My opinion is that it has been a fun three years. The season started out to be a stinker, but then they turned it around and made a playoff push. It was fun watching McMuffin throw his headset and it was fun whooping the vikings. To each their own, but they have been competitive and that's fun to watch.
 

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Again, I don't pay attention to what players are doing in the offseason. I don't care about the darkness retreat or who any of the players are dating. My investment is watching the games. My opinion is that it has been a fun three years. The season started out to be a stinker, but then they turned it around and made a playoff push. It was fun watching McMuffin throw his headset and it was fun whooping the vikings. To each their own, but they have been competitive and that's fun to watch.

I understand you may ignore everything but the games, but you were hinting or speaking on things outside of that is all. I gotcha and apologies if it came across rude, not intent.
 

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I'm not sure I understand you correctly but do you suggest the Packers should have traded Rodgers years ago?
Yes I would have traded him after the Tampa Bay fiasco and the BS he pulled post game/off season. Said so at the time.
 

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I understand you may ignore everything but the games, but you were hinting or speaking on things outside of that is all. I gotcha and apologies if it came across rude, not intent.
No offense taken at all. Love talking some football. Obviously, I know of the darkness retreat, but I don't put thought into that stuff. I don't watch ESPN, NFL Network, nothing. I get my info more from reading articles I'm interested in. For example, ones that talk about player personnel and the salary cap. I try to stay away from players personal lives. Don't read it and don't listen to it. Yes, some bleeds over, but I pay no mind to it.
 

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No offense taken at all. Love talking some football. Obviously, I know of the darkness retreat, but I don't put thought into that stuff. I don't watch ESPN, NFL Network, nothing. I get my info more from reading articles I'm interested in. For example, ones that talk about player personnel and the salary cap. I try to stay away from players personal lives. Don't read it and don't listen to it. Yes, some bleeds over, but I pay no mind to it.
I agree, obviously lol

One can be aware, while also not giving it much power over one's thoughts about a situation. ie, i'm aware of Rodgers and his retreat. Some people drink pepsi, some drink coke and BFD to me. But he's not assaulting massage therapists so i don't really care.
 

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