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Safety and OLB in next years draft. I think the plan will be to revamp the defense (AGAIN) and go all in. I have a hunch Gute will take the approach that Rodgers is good enough to carry the offense.. so they will build a defense that gets him as many possessions as possible. I think if they spend any money in free agency it will be on the o-line. The personnel on defense next season could look completely different at several spots . Both safeties, DE, and olb. Wouldn’t shock me if two rookies are starting on that side of the ball.
 

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Continuing to invest in the OL will be critical too, especially at tackle. If you want a good offensive tackle, it’s going to require a high draft pick.
 

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OT, pass rusher, safety, OG, tight end, DT, LB. We have a lot of needs, but pass rusher is #1. Gonna have to address at least a couple positions in free agency. Losing Cobb, Clay's, HaHa's contracts helps. as will 2 #1 picks. I wish New Orleans would collapse.
 

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I wouldn’t be upset to see us use our first two picks on pass rushers. We also will probably need 2 safeties, another corner and another Dline. I think we’ve been good at finding Oline later down in the draft, but Online will also be a need, and possibly another receiver. Plenty of holes this offseason.
 

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Every year the roster turns over, it's the way of the league. Old contracts need to be gotten rid of or let the players go, new ones have to be brought on, injured players need replacing etc. as of today we could use OLB, OL, DL, Safety all equally as much I think. Pettine's defense doesn't rely on superior edge rusher so I think a Roquan Smith type ILB is just as likely as anything depending on who's available at our picks. We're barely hanging on at OL with Bulaga and aging Bell on one side. I don't see any in the pipeline replacements and I don't see them sticking around too much longer. OL will need to be addressed too. DL and safety are also right up there. Next would be the rest.
 

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At what point does spending all of your capital on defense and ignoring the offense turn the offense into a problem? And I wouldn't expect much help in free agency guys. I took a I took a look at the potential free agency list for next season and it is completely unimpressive.
 

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I don't think the Packers should be married to the idea of drafting defense at the top of the draft again. There's nothing wrong with that option if need and talent converge, but it shouldn't be a foregone conclusion.

That said, there aren't many areas on offense that I see as huge needs.

Rodgers is obviously under contract for the long haul at QB and they have a developmental backup.

I like Jones and Williams as a pair moving forward and am generally not a huge fan of spending 1st round picks on running backs.

Adams is a #1, Allison has leveled up, and EQ/MVS are showing a lot of potential-- they could definitely draft another receiver, but I wouldn't do it in the first unless the value is outrageous.

RG is an area to be addressed, but I doubt this organization will spend a 1st on a guard.

And that leaves OT-- the spot on the OL that I think needs the most attention. Bulaga is aging, his contract is running out, and he's injury prone. Murphy is gone and Spriggs has not developed. There is no future answer, and the position is critical. If the value is right, I would spend our top pick on an OT without a second thought.
 

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I don't think the Packers should be married to the idea of drafting defense at the top of the draft again. There's nothing wrong with that option if need and talent converge, but it shouldn't be a foregone conclusion.

That said, there aren't many areas on offense that I see as huge needs.

Rodgers is obviously under contract for the long haul at QB and they have a developmental backup.

I like Jones and Williams as a pair moving forward and am generally not a huge fan of spending 1st round picks on running backs.

Adams is a #1, Allison has leveled up, and EQ/MVS are showing a lot of potential-- they could definitely draft another receiver, but I wouldn't do it in the first unless the value is outrageous.

RG is an area to be addressed, but I doubt this organization will spend a 1st on a guard.

And that leaves OT-- the spot on the OL that I think needs the most attention. Bulaga is aging, his contract is running out, and he's injury prone. Murphy is gone and Spriggs has not developed. There is no future answer, and the position is critical. If the value is right, I would spend our top pick on an OT without a second thought.

Top OT for 2019 Draft.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2019OT.php
 

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At what point does spending all of your capital on defense and ignoring the offense turn the offense into a problem? And I wouldn't expect much help in free agency guys. I took a I took a look at the potential free agency list for next season and it is completely unimpressive.

It's too early to have any certainty about FA, as resignings and tags can change so much, but these are a few position groups that at least initially look like they could hold some value:

RB: There are a lot of veteran RB's that could be nice roster additions if they prove inexpensive. RB isn't really a big need for the Packers, but if they let Montgomery go and wanted a veteran, it's a nice group.
  • Le'Veon Bell
  • Latavius Murray
  • Marshawn Lynch
  • Mark Ingram
  • Bilal Powell
  • Corey Grant
  • T.J. Yeldon
  • Mike Davis
  • Tevin Coleman
  • Buck Allen
DL: I don't see any big time game changers, but the DL group looks fairly deep with helpful contributors to augment Clark/Daniels.
  • Ndamukong Suh
  • Sheldon Richardson
  • Grady Jarrett
  • Darius Philon
  • Allen Bailey
  • Kyle Williams
  • Malcom Brown
  • Henry Anderson
ED:
  • Frank Clark
  • Trey Flowers
  • Dave Clowney
  • Preston Smith
  • Dee Ford
  • Anthony Barr
  • Ziggy Ansah
  • DeMarcus Lawrence
  • Brandon Graham
  • Dante Fowler
  • Aaron Lynch
  • Markus Golden
  • Shaq Barrett
S:
  • Landon Collins
  • Adrian Amos
  • Lamarcus Joyner
  • Tyrann Mathieu
  • Darian Stewart
  • Adrian Phillips
  • Clayton Geathers
 

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At what point does spending all of your capital on defense and ignoring the offense turn the offense into a problem? And I wouldn't expect much help in free agency guys. I took a I took a look at the potential free agency list for next season and it is completely unimpressive.

Problem is that last few drafts from TT left the defense in pretty rough shape (Clark being the sole exception as a playmaker). The QB position, if the team has a great QB, can make mediocre perform like good-to-great players, there is no comparable position on defense. If you want a good defense then you NEED to have a few great players scattered throughout the defense (at least one pass rusher and one corner) while on offense, you only really NEED one exceptional QB and one other great TE/WR, which the Packers have.
 

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Problem is that last few drafts from TT left the defense in pretty rough shape (Clark being the sole exception as a playmaker). The QB position, if the team has a great QB, can make mediocre perform like good-to-great players, there is no comparable position on defense. If you want a good defense then you NEED to have a few great players scattered throughout the defense (at least one pass rusher and one corner) while on offense, you only really NEED one exceptional QB and one other great TE/WR, which the Packers have.
I agree with this EXCEPT... we need a solid offensive line or that QB isn’t going to last long. We need to replace Bulaga and find a long term solution at RG.
 

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I agree with this EXCEPT... we need a solid offensive line or that QB isn’t going to last long. We need to replace Bulaga and find a long term solution at RG.

The Packers oline is excellent, much better than many other contending teams' olines. The emphasis on oline is nice but a Super Bowl team doesn't need a top-10 line. Mind you, I prefer to have an excellent oline, but if the choice is between a top-12 defense with an oline that's 15th in the NFL with only two great players, or a top-20 defense with a top-5 oline that has 3 great players, I'll choose the former.
 

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I'll be shocked if they resign him.
Only way he's staying is if he takes a very, very friendly deal.

He's extremely close with Aaron, he might want to stick around GB for a couple more years, but we'll see.
 

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Who will more likely get resigned HHCD, CM3,RC or Bulaga.
I think we need a Pass Rusher a both oline and dline and safety.
 

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Who will more likely get resigned HHCD, CM3,RC or Bulaga.
I think we need a Pass Rusher a both oline and dline and safety.

HHCD is easily the most likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is none.
 

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It's too early to have any certainty about FA, as resignings and tags can change so much, but these are a few position groups that at least initially look like they could hold some value:


DL: I don't see any big time game changers, but the DL group looks fairly deep with helpful contributors to augment Clark/Daniels.
  • Grady Jarrett
ED:
  • Dee Ford

These two are about the only ones that would qualify as great players but neither of them is going to make it to free agency. I can still remember being ticked the Packers didn't draft Grady Jarrett (he went in round 5!!!!!) because people were convinced we didn't need him because we had BJ Raji...4 years later he's one of the best dlinemen in the NFL.
 

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The Packers oline is excellent, much better than many other contending teams' olines. The emphasis on oline is nice but a Super Bowl team doesn't need a top-10 line. Mind you, I prefer to have an excellent oline, but if the choice is between a top-12 defense with an oline that's 15th in the NFL with only two great players, or a top-20 defense with a top-5 oline that has 3 great players, I'll choose the former.
The Packers offensive line usd to be excellent... Bulaga is hurt a lot and getting older and we have not had a consistent right guard in a while..... If you actually watched the last few games... I’m having a hard time wondering how anyone could say the offensive line has been excellent... and that is WITH Bulaga.
 

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Tramon is old and will make over 6 mil next season and hasn’t looked especially good this season, I could see him being a cap cut to save the 5 mil. Aside from Jackson and Jaire, we don’t have anything else at corner for next season...
This is the last year for Cobb’s contract and I think Allison is rfa also, I definitely think it’s safe to say we prolly draft another wr. Mvs looks like he’s a starter next year, but behind that is pretty unknown although I the flashes from EQ, a wr will be brought in if nothing else for competition imo
 
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HHCD is easily the most likely, but I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is none.

Haha is pff’s number 2 rated safety this season, I could definitely see someone overpaying for his services, though I would like him back.
 

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The Packers offensive line usd to be excellent... Bulaga is hurt a lot and getting older and we have not had a consistent right guard in a while..... If you actually watched the last few games... I’m having a hard time wondering how anyone could say the offensive line has been excellent... and that is WITH Bulaga.

PFF (who watch WAY more football than the average fan) rank the Packers' oline as 3rd best in the NFL.

Honestly though, I understand that as a fan it can be easy to make every weakness a catastrophic problem, but having ONE problem position on the oline is a blessing in today's NFL. Have you looked at some of the other olines in the NFL? Again, I don't look at PFF ranks as absolutes, it's not like a thermometer; PFF ranking them third doesn't have to mean they are exactly third. I would, however, take it to mean that the oline is REALLY good compared to the rest of the NFL.

I also can't find any now, but there have been a few articles discussing the limited amount of pressures that the Packers oline has given up so it's not just PFF.
 

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