Go Eagles

[rmontro]

The championships from earlier eras certainly should count. But in one important facet, the modern SB does mean more because there are many more teams. Before the merger, a team only needed to be the best out of 14 or 16 teams. Win your division and you're already in the championship game. Odds back them were one in 14 or one in 16 that you'd be the champ. Today, those odds are all the way down to one in 32. Much harder to do.

The NFL is the only major sports league to divide its existence the way it does. It's only because the Super Bowl has been such a successful phenomenon. In 1960, the NBA only had eight teams, and no one is wanting to take all those championship banners down from the Boston rafters. What if in 50 years there are 80 NFL teams? So what? I don't see how that diminishes Philadelphia's accomplishment this year. You can only beat your competition.

 

[rmontro]

I heard them stress how Philly's plan of drafting continually in the trenches caught me as odd, because they just came off a massive secondary overhaul in the 2024 draft, but before that it's true. Green Bay fans would be so pissed if GB just drafted bigguns this much:

Yeah, Packer fans might get upset if they didn't draft their usual annual first round bust.

Well, bust is too strong a word (in some cases), but you get the point.

 

[Sanguine camper]

The NFL is the only major sports league to divide its existence the way it does. It's only because the Super Bowl has been such a successful phenomenon. In 1960, the NBA only had eight teams, and no one is wanting to take all those championship banners down from the Boston rafters. What if in 50 years there are 80 NFL teams? So what? I don't see how that diminishes Philadelphia's accomplishment this year. You can only beat your competition.

I totally agree. All I'm trying g to point out is that it's much harder to win a championship when you start out one of 32 compared to one of 16. All the old championship teams deserve their glory in my opinion. They were still the best.

 

[PackerDNA]

The championships from earlier eras certainly should count. But in one important facet, the modern SB does mean more because there are many more teams. Before the merger, a team only needed to be the best out of 14 or 16 teams. Win your division and you're already in the championship game. Odds back them were one in 14 or one in 16 that you'd be the champ. Today, those odds are all the way down to one in 32. Much harder to do.

In a sense you still have two league. You only play teams from the other conference once every 4 years. Back in Lombardi's Packers days you had to play power houses like the colts and Rams every year and some of them twice a year. That and only two teams making the title game compared to seven teams in each conference now. A lot of it especially in the first round being just padding the leagues pockets.

 

[rmontro]

One more thing about the game: How about that field goal kicker, Jake Elliot? That guy was dialed in and kicking the ball a mile. And most of them were dead center of the goalposts too. After all the kicking problems the Packers have had in the last few years, I couldn't help but be a little envious. And circumstances kept making him kick every ball twice, but he just kept making all of them.

 

[Schultz]

He had a good game for sure, but I am pretty sure he had his issues this year also. Poor from 50+ during the season and missed 3 PATs in the playoffs.

 

[tynimiller]

Yeah, Packer fans might get upset if they didn't draft their usual annual first round bust.

Well, bust is too strong a word (in some cases), but you get the point.

I think far too many of you have massively disproportionate expectations of first round draft picks. Perhaps I am too conservative, I am not too prideful to concede but I’ve studied the draft and prospects and reflected and reviewed back on past drafts so much I think many would be amazed to learn how tough it really is to get it perfect and always get a two or three contract starter with your first round pick.

 

[Zartan]

I feel content that The Pack gave the Eagles the best challenge. Had the offense been slighty more on point could have pulled off the upset.

None the less still several pieces away from completing.

 

[rmontro]

He had a good game for sure, but I am pretty sure he had his issues this year also. Poor from 50+ during the season and missed 3 PATs in the playoffs.

Helps being in a dome, I'm sure. Nevertheless, I admired his performance.

 

[gopkrs]

I think far too many of you have massively disproportionate expectations of first round draft picks. Perhaps I am too conservative, I am not too prideful to concede but I’ve studied the draft and prospects and reflected and reviewed back on past drafts so much I think many would be amazed to learn how tough it really is to get it perfect and always get a two or three contract starter with your first round pick.

It just seems like they weight potential too much. They should be able to pick guys that can play.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I loved the Stones and Prince. I don't remember The Who doing the half time show. Gotta look that up. Thanks.

Super Bowl XLIV

 

[BrokenArrow]

I thought it was pass interference. He extended his arm and even pushed him in the face mask.

Every single game guys get away with far more than that. Williams two-hand shoving Nixon to secure the Lions win is a prime example.

 

[gopkrs]

Every single game guys get away with far more than that. Williams two-hand shoving Nixon to secure the Lions win is a prime example.

Only giving my opinion. I couldn't see how Brady got so worked up about it. I mean, I'll say it again, he extended his arm and pushed the defender in the face mask. And if you are wondering. I was for the crows.

 

[rmontro]

I think far too many of you have massively disproportionate expectations of first round draft picks. Perhaps I am too conservative, I am not too prideful to concede but I’ve studied the draft and prospects and reflected and reviewed back on past drafts so much I think many would be amazed to learn how tough it really is to get it perfect and always get a two or three contract starter with your first round pick.

Eh, it was kind of a joke, we're just having fun here. But like most jokes, it holds a grain of truth. Yes, it is very hard to make good draft picks and assemble a Super Bowl winning team. But that being the case doesn't bring you any championships. We need to perform at a higher level than other teams if we're going to get anywhere. We've been in the top half of the league for a good while now. But it's been 14 years since the last Lombardi.

 

[tynimiller]

Eh, it was kind of a joke, we're just having fun here. But like most jokes, it holds a grain of truth. Yes, it is very hard to make good draft picks and assemble a Super Bowl winning team. But that being the case doesn't bring you any championships. We need to perform at a higher level than other teams if we're going to get anywhere. We've been in the top half of the league for a good while now. But it's been 14 years since the last Lombardi.

Oh for sure, this isn't directed at you personally but I think I'm just growing extremely thin of every year Packer fans having the inability to discuss things with nuance or at minimum step back and observe things on the whole for what they are.

For example I've been harping on the last four years worth of what Howie did as GM with the Eagles is unprecedented - the amount of hits he's had in every decision is not normal....but the crazy thing is prior to that he had a couple of the biggest first round bombs someone can have...

2019 he drafted Andre Dillard in the first round....dude didn't even stick around his entire rookie contract, couldn't start unless injuries happened and was a 7 game inactive this season for us in only his fifth season...Gute hasn't had a burn out like that ever. The year after that he drafted Jalen Reagor in the first round....and again he was out of Philly after just two seasons because he was so bad...now he's been on three teams in the last three years and this last year was only active in 8 games.

It ain't easy...in the 2019 draft there is already two guys not even actively trying to make it in the league from the first round...couple others that aren't even active on most game days for their teams anymore...

2020 draft first round has four guys not even playing sunday football anymore...

2021 first round even has a few guys that are barely clinging to roster spots...and not because of injuries like Stokes...just play not there....two top three picks even...

This stuff hard to predict and most fans just trust hindsight and can pretend they knew for certain and scream "How could Gute not have known..."