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I don't see why whether or not there was a championship game is relevant. That was the format for determining the champion at the time. Does the NCAA put an asterisk on their football champions before 2014?
Well said rmontro. A championship is a championship, however it is determined. Every team plays according to the same set of rules to determine a champion. If records were changed there would be multiple asterisks to account for, among others, the pre-SB era, the SB era, years with different playoff formats, and on and on.

The Packers' two threepeats are exactly that - they were the best football team in the world for three consecutive years on two occasions. No asterisks required.

On Sunday night Fox flashed an interesting stat. The Packers' OL from their first SB win averaged 6'3" and 245 lbs. The current Eagles OL is on average 6'6" and 336 lbs. It's night and day but both teams are SB champs. No asterisk necessary, thank you.

I think Im safe in saying that as far as world championships, the Packers are to football what the Yankees are to baseball - teams with by far the most championships in their respective sports. Full stop.
 

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To me it's like the new rushing records. Future generations will not understand that the greats such as ****erson, OJ, and Campbell accomplished these feats in less games than Adrian Peterson or Saquon Barkley.

If you guys don't think that there is a difference between determining a championship by record versus the best teams playing each other at the end of the season, then we'll just have to disagree. My point is merely that all of these records need to be annotated once they no longer align with current standards. It gives context to those who would otherwise not understand the circumstances of past records. An asterisk is merely a grammatical symbol, indicating that further information is supplied. It doesn't diminish the accomplishments of anyone or any team.
 

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Well said rmontro. A championship is a championship, however it is determined. Every team plays according to the same set of rules to determine a champion. If records were changed there would be multiple asterisks to account for, among others, the pre-SB era, the SB era, years with different playoff formats, and on and on.

The Packers' two threepeats are exactly that - they were the best football team in the world for three consecutive years on two occasions. No asterisks required.

On Sunday night Fox flashed an interesting stat. The Packers' OL from their first SB win averaged 6'3" and 245 lbs. The current Eagles OL is on average 6'6" and 336 lbs. It's night and day but both teams are SB champs. No asterisk necessary, thank you.

I think Im safe in saying that as far as world championships, the Packers are to football what the Yankees are to baseball - teams with by far the most championships in their respective sports. Full stop.
Today's NFL is more like a Summo wrestling match in the trenches compared with Lombardi's O line that needed to be lighter and quicker on their feet. That offense was dependent on O linemen being able to pull or trap block and get down field. Today's big-bellied O linemen do a lot less pulling compared with Lombardi's teams. I also think LT changed the game with his awesome pass rush. Once LT wrecked havoc from the outside, teams put a lot more emphasis on height and length to take on the speed rush.
 

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To me it's like the new rushing records. Future generations will not understand that the greats such as ****erson, OJ, and Campbell accomplished these feats in less games than Adrian Peterson or Saquon Barkley.

If you guys don't think that there is a difference between determining a championship by record versus the best teams playing each other at the end of the season, then we'll just have to disagree. My point is merely that all of these records need to be annotated once they no longer align with current standards. It gives context to those who would otherwise not understand the circumstances of past records. An asterisk is merely a grammatical symbol, indicating that further information is supplied. It doesn't diminish the accomplishments of anyone or any team.
out of curiosity, who is control of the awfully stupid censorship rules on this site?
 

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out of curiosity, who is control of the awfully stupid censorship rules on this site?
I'm far from the expert, but several forums that I've visited appear to use the same "platform." The same words are auto-censored on all of the sites. You should see how ruffled the feathers get on the snowmobile forums... I don't know if mods have the ability to change which words are censored.

After I saw that his name was blanked out, I thought about changing it to Eric DdIiCcKkerson. One just needs to be creative.
 

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