daryl washington ?

[thequick12]

seems like it would be worth the risk to sign this dude as he could be the best ILB the packers have had since they switched to a 3-4. Jake Ryan has no interceptions, no sacks, no forced fumbles, and 1 fumble recovery in 2 seasons. Having a playmaker in the center of the defense would be a game changer. I guess I forgot about Desmond bishop he was a playmaker for a few years coincidently or not I think those were the years the packers defense was at its best. I know there were a lot of other factors Nick Collins, Pickett, raji and Matthews playing best they have etc but I feel like having a guy in the middle the offense has to account for is equivalent to the offense having a te that has to be accounted for.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

seems like it would be worth the risk to sign this dude as he could be the best ILB the packers have had since they switched to a 3-4.

Washington hasn't played in the NFL since the 2013 season as he was suspended for violating the league's substance abuse policy. The Packers should pass on him.

 

[thequick12]

who cares if he was suspended for smoking, yes shows he's not smart but apparently he's been passing tests so he got reinstated. it's possible he's lost it but it's also quite possible he's still the same player he was. he's only 30.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

who cares if he was suspended for smoking, yes shows he's not smart but apparently he's been passing tests so he got reinstated. it's possible he's lost it but it's also quite possible he's still the same player he was. he's only 30.

Washington was involved in two separate incidents- one involving drugs (his 3rd) and the other domestic violence; it was the drug violation that led to the suspension but the domestic-violence incident contributed to the length of Washington's suspension. Couple that domestic violence issue with as long as he has been out of the league and I would say "Pass"

 

[Deleted member 6794]

who cares if he was suspended for smoking, yes shows he's not smart but apparently he's been passing tests so he got reinstated. it's possible he's lost it but it's also quite possible he's still the same player he was. he's only 30.

I wouldn't care if Washington only got caught for substance abuse once but he was busted several times. The Cardinals, the only team he ever played for, decided it was best to move on therefore I would prefer the Packers to pass on him as well.

 

[thequick12]

I wouldn't care if Washington only got caught for substance abuse once but he was busted several times. The Cardinals, the only team he ever played for, decided it was best to move on therefore I would prefer the Packers to pass on him as well.

let's be clear smoking weed is not substance abuse on the same level as being an alcoholic, a coke/crack head, heroin addict, pill junkie or **** head. the fact he couldn't stop does raise questions about his intelligence but he's a football player not a rocket scientist. the dv is a non issue to me. do I agree with it no, but I also don't agree with never giving someone a job again because of it. in what other profession would a dv incident end your career? the issue to me is the 3 years since he last played. but if he can show in a workout he's athletically still got it I think he could really help the defense

 

[Deleted member 6794]

let's be clear smoking weed is not substance abuse on the same level as being an alcoholic, a coke/crack head, heroin addict, pill junkie or **** head. the fact he couldn't stop does raise questions about his intelligence but he's a football player not a rocket scientist. the dv is a non issue to me. do I agree with it no, but I also don't agree with never giving someone a job again because of it. in what other profession would a dv incident end your career?

It doesn't matter what we think about smoking weed, Washington knew he would get suspended for doing it but yet decided it was worth the risk. I wouldn't trust him to stay out of trouble going forward.

You thinking that his domestic violence conviction is a non issue is ignorant at best.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

l the dv is a non issue to me. do I agree with it no, but I also don't agree with never giving someone a job again because of it. in what other profession would a dv incident end your career?

You are going to see a lot of people disagree with you that a domestic violence charge isn't an issue or that it doesn't affect future employment. Take a look around the NFL alone. In recent years, the league and teams are no longer turning a blind eye to it, nor do I.

 

[thequick12]

You are going to see a lot of people disagree with you that a domestic violence charge isn't an issue or that it doesn't affect future employment. Take a look around the NFL alone. In recent years, the league and teams are no longer turning a blind eye to it, nor do I.

Not saying turn a blind eye. I'm saying the dude has missed 3 seasons. why not give him a shot at helping the team if he can? do we honestly think that not a single dude on the packers has hit someone be it a woman or a man. just saying he seems like he could help the team win a few games provided he really has decided to stop the drug use which as far as anyone can know is the case. so give him a chance as a football player if he can't win a starting job in camp, cut him

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

We would get him dirt cheap. Look at what Carroll is doing with Lacy. Make him prove himself, no harm no foul.
Maybe he would be worth a look.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

We would get him dirt cheap. Look at what Carroll is doing with Lacy. Make him prove himself, no harm no foul.
Maybe he would be worth a look.

Lacy hasn't missed the past three seasons because of being suspended though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

We would get him dirt cheap. Look at what Carroll is doing with Lacy. Make him prove himself, no harm no foul.
Maybe he would be worth a look.

Like Captain said, Lacy is a completely different comparison. But the same could be said about Ray Rice, Greg Hardy and a handful of other players that have been in similar situations, why aren't teams lining up to sign players like that?

 

[mongoosev]

lets draw the line somewhere. these guys have responsibilities like everyone else and should act accordingly to their age and know of the consequences. how long before the nfl does nothing and let people with a long criminal history to play in the nfl?

 

[Sky King]

lets draw the line somewhere. these guys have responsibilities like everyone else and should act accordingly to their age and know of the consequences. how long before the nfl does nothing and let people with a long criminal history to play in the nfl?

Ray Lewis was the only person that was ever convicted (plea agreement) in a particular murder case. That didn't stop the NFL from later making him one of the most prominent faces in the league nor prevent him from appearing in commercials and as a football commentator. It's all about the bottom line for the NFL and the networks, I presume.

 

[yooperpackfan]

Ray Lewis was the only person that was ever convicted (plea agreement) in a particular murder case. That didn't stop the NFL from later making him one of the most prominent faces in the league nor prevent him from appearing in commercials and as a football commentator. It's all about the bottom line for the NFL and the networks, I presume.

The whole Ray Lewis saga was totally disgusting and Washington ain't no Ray Lewis.

 

[Sky King]

The whole Ray Lewis saga was totally disgusting and Washington ain't no Ray Lewis.

I'm not sure what you are addressing -- the ability of the player or the man off the playing field? It's a guess that you're comparing the nature of each man's off-field behavior, correct?

 

[yooperpackfan]

I'm not sure what you are addressing -- the ability of the player or the man off the playing field? It's a guess that you're comparing the nature of each man's off-field behavior, correct?

The off field behavior of both players is reprehensible but Washington would be a mere shadow of what Lewis was on the field.

 

[Sky King]

The off field behavior of both players is reprehensible but Washington would be a mere shadow of what Lewis was on the field.

Gotcha!

 

[armand34]

We need Linebackers, so I took it upon myself to sign him to my current Madden Roster. Dude has no off-field issues and is BEASTING!

 

[thequick12]

Like Captain said, Lacy is a completely different comparison. But the same could be said about Ray Rice, Greg Hardy and a handful of other players that have been in similar situations, why aren't teams lining up to sign players like that?

ray rice just wasnt that good of a player at the time of his incident so no team wants to take him. but look at adrian peterson the vikings didnt dump him when he got suspended for beating his kid which a lot of people would argue is a greater public relations problem than domestic violence against a woman. greg hardy just wasnt a good teamate by all accounts he blew off everything but the games. Both joe mixon and cook and tyreke hill got drafted after domestic violence incidents that were highly publicized

 

[thequick12]

lets draw the line somewhere. these guys have responsibilities like everyone else and should act accordingly to their age and know of the consequences. how long before the nfl does nothing and let people with a long criminal history to play in the nfl?

he doesnt have a long criminal history, he has 1 domestic violence charge that i am aware of

 

[brandon2348]

This whole players shouldn't be able to play cause of a misdemenor charge is ridiculous. The NFL is a total meat market yet they try to put up this front on some of these issues to keep there fan base expanded.

ESPN is letting Donovan McNabb get on the air and talk football after two DUI's in the same year less then two years ago and one of them was an "Extreme DUI" yet I see no outrage with letting him have a significant role on a major network. He is actually reaching way more people and much more visible then a guy with a uniform on playing a game.

90 percent of these DUI and Domestic Violence cases are stupid anyways and this comes from a son of prosecutor. You got the guy who had a few beers and drove and blew .10 or the guy that got in a shoving match with his wife getting caught up in the legal system because of a few that recklessly drive drunk or that guy that physically abuses and tortures his wife. I don't condone violence or drinking and driving but these extreme cases that happen are gonna happen regardless of how strict a law someone makes. People will say "I never got a DUI" and really "they just never got caught" in most cases.

If people wanna watch "high character football" there is always the IVY league games. Also, I think it's hillarious that so many people think the Packers organization is so clinically clean as its not. There are coaches and players on the Packers that have been in trouble with the law and have had questionable character issues pop up.

 

[Half Empty]

As in most things, mostly a matter of degree. Certainly, we'd all like to see high-character players represent our team. Certainly, there are actions which would cause any of us to not want a player. In between, lots of gray area. Drugs is obviously one of those - most wouldn't want proven (otherwise legal) PED users to be allowed, many don't care about (otherwise illegal) recreational drug use to count.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

We need Linebackers, so I took it upon myself to sign him to my current Madden Roster. Dude has no off-field issues and is BEASTING!

You can't be serious as Washington has been suspended for the last three seasons because of off-field issues.

 

[OldSchool101]

This whole players shouldn't be able to play cause of a misdemenor charge is ridiculous. The NFL is a total meat market yet they try to put up this front on some of these issues to keep there fan base expanded.

ESPN is letting Donovan McNabb get on the air and talk football after two DUI's in the same year less then two years ago and one of them was an "Extreme DUI" yet I see no outrage with letting him have a significant role on a major network. He is actually reaching way more people and much more visible then a guy with a uniform on playing a game.

90 percent of these DUI and Domestic Violence cases are stupid anyways and this comes from a son of prosecutor. You got the guy who had a few beers and drove and blew .10 or the guy that got in a shoving match with his wife getting caught up in the legal system because of a few that recklessly drive drunk or that guy that physically abuses and tortures his wife. I don't condone violence or drinking and driving but these extreme cases that happen are gonna happen regardless of how strict a law someone makes. People will say "I never got a DUI" and really "they just never got caught" in most cases.

If people wanna watch "high character football" there is always the IVY league games. Also, I think it's hillarious that so many people think the Packers organization is so clinically clean as its not. There are coaches and players on the Packers that have been in trouble with the law and have had questionable character issues pop up.

You're exactly correct in the "I never got a DUI" thing. I remember a crazy statistic that the # of times people drive drunk before they get caught is around 80!
Then you know from being acquainted with the law that the court puts "Torts" in an entirely different category than say a standard DUI charge with zero personal injury. While I'm not condoning drinking and driving by any stretch and I fully understand the consequences it can lead to, it is a far lesser infringement than say.. beating a child, a man breaking a woman's jawbone, a punching out someone until they are unconscience and then pulling them into an elevator door with an attempt to inflict further bodily harm etc.. etc you get the point.
Those acts pass unconscionable criminal or civil thresholds that need to be taken very seriously because, similar to a DUI, there have been multiple similar infractions at an escalating rate that have never been reported. They rarely just altogether stop.
I'll pass on Daryl as a football player but I pray he gets help and recommits himself both physically and spiritually to conquering his demons.