Crosby game winner

[milani]

Did anyone notice how somber Al.Michaels sounded as the kick passed through the goal posts? It was as if he was tired and glad the night ended. Or he wanted the 9ers to win. I know he is from California.

 

[PFanCan]

Collinsworth wasn’t exactly thrilled either.

 

[Favre>Rodgers259]

With the NFL incessantly wanting us to goto California pretty much every year now, I almost feel like the game was rigged, especially with the officiating. I don't want to go too far down that rabbit hole because I know certain people won't appreciate it, but it just seems like TOO MANY things went against us last night. But I definitely noticed they were all too willing to narrate a story about how great Jimmy G was and how he toppled Rodgers....

 

[gopkrs]

When SF called the time out I thought, "well that is just going to give him more time to settle down." Who knows but it sure did not ice him.

 

[OkieCheesehead]

When SF called the time out I thought, "well that is just going to give him more time to settle down." Who knows but it sure did not ice him.

I thought the same thing. Is the whole “icing the kicker” strategy really that effective? Like you said, sometimes it just gives veteran guys like Crosby more time.

 

[El Guapo]

I think that icing the kicker can be effective against younger players. A coach shouldn't do it blindly, but based on the kicker and the situation.

 

[OkieCheesehead]

I think that icing the kicker can be effective against younger players. A coach shouldn't do it blindly, but based on the kicker and the situation.

That’s true. Plus if you have the timeout, might as well try and utilize it.

 

[gopkrs]

That’s true. Plus if you have the timeout, might as well try and utilize it.

If you are deciding based on kicker and situation; then whether or not you have a time-out has nothing to do with it.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

With the NFL incessantly wanting us to goto California pretty much every year now, I almost feel like the game was rigged, especially with the officiating. I don't want to go too far down that rabbit hole because I know certain people won't appreciate it, but it just seems like TOO MANY things went against us last night. But I definitely noticed they were all too willing to narrate a story about how great Jimmy G was and how he toppled Rodgers....

Seriously ?? smh

 

[El Guapo]

It seems like fans are only happy if penalties are evenly handed out to each team - "parity." Sometimes one team does actually commit more fouls that necessitate more penalties. I agree that we seemed to get more penalties that were iffy at best. However, I don't buy into at all that the league or officials are trying to influence games. Refs have bad games. Sometimes life just rolls a giant shitball your way. It doesn't mean that someone intentionally set that shitball in motion.

 

[OkieCheesehead]

If you are deciding based on kicker and situation; then whether or not you have a time-out has nothing to do with it.

It does actually. If I have a timeout even if it’s against the best kicker in the league I’m gonna use it. What advantage do you gain by not using it? At that point you might as well use everything you got.

 

[sschind]

It seems like fans are only happy if penalties are evenly handed out to each team - "parity." Sometimes one team does actually commit more fouls that necessitate more penalties. I agree that we seemed to get more penalties that were iffy at best. However, I don't buy into at all that the league or officials are trying to influence games. Refs have bad games. Sometimes life just rolls a giant shitball your way. It doesn't mean that someone intentionally set that shitball in motion.

Actually, many of them seem perfectly happy if the other team gets more as well. Its only when their team gets more does the complaining start.

 

[Schultz]

Actually since the norm is to call the time out coaches should stand next to the ref telling him no matter what I say or do I do not want a time out, he could then pretend to be asking for a time out, yelling and making the t.o. sign with his hands. Now this is how you mess with a kicker in this day and age.

 

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[gopkrs]

It does actually. If I have a timeout even if it’s against the best kicker in the league I’m gonna use it. What advantage do you gain by not using it? At that point you might as well use everything you got.

Then you are not deciding by kicker and situation. I think you are just assuming that more time will make it more difficult on the kicker. Or maybe you just don't like to see a time out left in your pocket. I don't know. But your not actually making a choice based on a situation.

 

[gopkrs]

Actually since the norm is to call the time out coaches should stand next to the ref telling him no matter what I say or do I do not want a time out, he could then pretend to be asking for a time out, yelling and making the t.o. sign with his hands. Now this is how you mess with a kicker in this day and age.

I've often thought that in the Super Bowl, line up for two and make the other team call a time out. Or just take the 5 yards. I say Super Bowl because it's a bigger game. No point using it during the regular season.

 

[sschind]

Actually since the norm is to call the time out coaches should stand next to the ref telling him no matter what I say or do I do not want a time out, he could then pretend to be asking for a time out, yelling and making the t.o. sign with his hands. Now this is how you mess with a kicker in this day and age.

I doubt the kicker is paying attention to what the opposing coach is doing on the sidelines. As far as signaling for a time out, IMO if it is called for or signaled for it should be called no matter what the coach tells the ref ahead of time. It would be akin to signalling for a fair catch then trying to return a punt.

 

[melvin dangerr]

Ill wine one last time about the Refs,players affect the games outcome with their actions on the field, a bad decision on the offense or defense can decide the outcome of a game and bad calls were told to basically just deal with it, the refs blew it, criticizing the Zebras is a hefty fine, ok! It is far time officials should be held to the same standards because There has been many a times, and their are too many examples to post, that the Refs(replacements Seattle) have cost teams critical games and were supposed to just grumble and except it, its high time the refs need to experience the same grief as a player would, too many times their mistakes have cost teams their seasons unjustly, they need to feel the sting of fines or suspensions for their mistakes also, it has been a matter of money and Titles at the hands of this protected class, either get another Ref or better yet have booth review refs, its 2021 and stakes are higher than years ago, whew! off my soapbox now!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Refs have bad games. Sometimes life just rolls a giant shitball your way. It doesn't mean that someone intentionally set that shitball in motion.

One thing to keep in mind though, most refs have certain tendencies and this occurs in all Sports. While there should be consistency from ref to ref, there isn't. I see it in basketball, behind the plate umpires, gymnastic judges, etc. The key is, know your refs and what you can and can't get away with based on that knowledge. I am pretty sure that there is a scouting report on each ref and its the job of the coaches to remind players each game as to what they should expect.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

If you are deciding based on kicker and situation; then whether or not you have a time-out has nothing to do with it.

Well, if you don't have a timeout you can't take one to ice the kicker

It does actually. If I have a timeout even if it’s against the best kicker in the league I’m gonna use it. What advantage do you gain by not using it? At that point you might as well use everything you got.

There have been several occasions I remember on which the kicker actually missed the field goal but the other team had called a timeout just before the snap to ice him just for him to make it on the second attempt.

Ill wine one last time about the Refs,players affect the games outcome with their actions on the field, a bad decision on the offense or defense can decide the outcome of a game and bad calls were told to basically just deal with it, the refs blew it, criticizing the Zebras is a hefty fine, ok! It is far time officials should be held to the same standards because There has been many a times, and their are too many examples to post, that the Refs(replacements Seattle) have cost teams critical games and were supposed to just grumble and except it, its high time the refs need to experience the same grief as a player would, too many times their mistakes have cost teams their seasons unjustly, they need to feel the sting of fines or suspensions for their mistakes also, it has been a matter of money and Titles at the hands of this protected class, either get another Ref or better yet have booth review refs, its 2021 and stakes are higher than years ago, whew! off my soapbox now!

The NFL has a total of 17 different officiating crews. I'm absolutely convinced their performance is thoroughly evaluated and assignments are made based on it.

With that being said one crew doesn't get to call a game each week, even more in weeks with teams on a bye.

Therefore not performing up to the league's standards will result in not receiving an assignment for a week resulting in a lost paycheck.

In addition those refs most likely won't be considered for the postseason either.

 

[gopkrs]

Well, if you don't have a timeout you can't take one to ice the kicker

Very true.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Interesting article on "Icing the Kicker"

Icing the Kicker: Does it Really Work? | Sharp Football

NFL kickers converted only 64% of game-winning kicks after being iced, suggesting coaches should look at icing kickers when the game is on the line.

www.sharpfootballanalysis.com

 

[milani]

Collinsworth wasn’t exactly thrilled either.

 

[milani]

The more I watch those last couple minutes I am convinced they were cheering for Garapollo and the Niners. Even remarking that if the Pack only tackled Yush before he scored. And if the Niners ever needed a sack it was now. Like they expected Rodgers to drive down but were hoping some way that the gods were against him.

 

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