Brian Gutekunst new Packers GM

[Dantés]

From what I'm reading this morning, a lot of ultimate authority will lie with Murphy. Neither Gutekunst nor Ball can fire the coach without Murphy's approval. However, it does sound like Gutekunst has final control of the roster. Hopefully Murphy is the right man for that role. It sounds like it's an attempt to prevent communication breakdowns between the FO and the HC.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

It sounds like it's an attempt to prevent communication breakdowns between the FO and the HC.

Let's hope the team figures out a way that doesn't happen with the defensive coordinator and his players going forward as well.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think the most interesting thing I read here is that McCarthy, Ball, and Gutekunst report to Murphy.... That apparently puts them all on equal footing in the organization... and means the GM cannot directly hire or fire the other 2.

Setting the 3 of them up to be called the 3 stooges in this forum if things don't work out. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

 

[Dantés]

Let's hope the team figures out a way that doesn't happen with the defensive coordinator and his players going forward as well.

I think we can expect improvement in that regard. McCarthy not so subtly indicated that he didn't want to stick around if there wasn't more communication and commitment from the FO in terms of bringing in more veteran pieces to help complete the roster. Once Gutekunst was named GM, all the reporters stated that McCarthy is really happy with the call. My conclusion, then, is that Gutekunst will strive to help McCarthy out more with the players he feels he needs. It's good news.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

My conclusion, then, is that Gutekunst will strive to help McCarthy out more with the players he feels he needs. It's good news.

I truly hope that to be true.

 

[shockerx]

So what do we call Gutekunst for short...BG or BeeGee or Gutek! sort of like Gronk!

 

[pacmaniac]

The Packers just announced the team has promoted Russ Ball to executive vice president/director of football operations, the position Wolf held for last season. In my opinion that all but guarantees Eliot will seek some other opportunity.

No mention of Eliot in the press release. He's gone.

 

[pacmaniac]

I think if the reports of Wolf being upset are accurate and he leaves, I would say the right choice was made with Gutekunst. This would be a strong indicator he was too immature to handle the duties. At its core, the job of GM is about managing people and information, you have to suceed there long before you ever get to the point of selecting players.

It's understandable whoever didn't get promoted would be upset. Gutekunst would probably be gone if Eliot had been named GM.

 

[AmishMafia]

It's understandable whoever didn't get promoted would be upset. Gutekunst would probably be gone if Eliot had been named GM.

Maybe. Maybe not.

I see a difference in leaving for a promotion and leaving because you got your undies in a bundle.

Wolf may leave for a promotion, but if the tone of the rumors is accurate, he isn't handling it in a professional manner.

 

[Hands]

Before BG's contract is over...he will have the authority to fire the HC ie. MM.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Before BG's contract is over...he will have the authority to fire the HC ie. MM.

While that might be possible currently Gutekunst doesn't have the authority to fire McCarthy without Murphy's approval.

 

[AmishMafia]

While that might be possible currently Gutekunst doesn't have the authority to fire McCarthy without Murphy's approval.

Reading the tea leaves:

probably an agreement between Murphy and MM he insisted on to stay.

Murphy didn't want to trade programs while AR is still a force.

When MM eventually leaves, the GM will be able to resume normal responsibilities -hire/fire rights of HC

 

[Reggie White Cheese]

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/...0?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Good news for Bears DC to come to GB (cannot remember to properly spell his name) he is out of the running for Head Coach.. Get it done....

 

[HardRightEdge]

as of now the Packers 2018 cap space is $21.6m (which assumes a $176m team cap) which . 2017 team cap was $167m.

That's sportrac's number for 48 players under contract for 2018.

Using overthecap's more favorable $26.0 million in cap space for 44 players while assuming a $178 mil cap, I came up with an effective cap space of $13.5 mil here:

https://www.packerforum.com/threads/2018-salary-cap-analysis.77686/

In short, the subtractions were for the first 3 draft picks, filling out the 53 man roster with rookie minimums, filling out the PS, and holding $4 mil in reserve for 8 rookie minimum full season equivalents for PUP and IR replacements.

Somebody else can figure out how sportrac comes up with less cap space, but if you want to use their numbers, the effective cap space is lower than my $13.5 mil.

• sportrac's assumed 2018 cap is $2 million lower than overthecap's
• sportrac has 4 more players under contract, which at the rookie minimum washes with the amount in the above point.

That still leaves sportrac with $4.4 million less than overthecap which means, using my subtractions, yields an effective cap space amount of $9.1 million.

That does not take you very far.

 

[PackAttack12]

Something has to give if Gutekunst is wanting to be aggressive in free agency.

 

[GleefulGary]

Wolf can't leave unless we allow him to.

So if we allow him to, you can rightfully assume that we would consider his attitude to be "toxic".

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Wolf can't leave unless we allow him to.

So if we allow him to, you can rightfully assume that we would consider his attitude to be "toxic".

Murphy already mentioned that he doesn't want to hold a front office executive back if he's presented with a great opportunity though.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Something has to give if Gutekunst is wanting to be aggressive in free agency.

Yup.....and it will come with either renegotiating contracts or cutting players who currently may be making more than they should.

Top 4 on such list might be:

1. Matthews
2. Cobb
3. Nelson
4. Bulaga

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Yup.....and it will come with either renegotiating contracts or cutting players who currently may be making more than they should.

Top 4 on such list might be:

1. Matthews
2. Cobb
3. Nelson
4. Bulaga

I would actually rank Nelson and Cobb ahead of Matthews on that list.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I would actually rank Nelson and Cobb ahead of Matthews on that list.

I wasn't really going on order of my importance (to me), more of amount of savings. Although Jordy and Cobb might me reversed a bit.

 

[Jerellh528]

So what do we call Gutekunst for short...BG or BeeGee or Gutek! sort of like Gronk!

Guts

 

[PackAttack12]

Yup.....and it will come with either renegotiating contracts or cutting players who currently may be making more than they should.

Top 4 on such list might be:

1. Matthews
2. Cobb
3. Nelson
4. Bulaga

Bulaga is the interesting one on that list. Really haven't thought about him as much, but it makes sense if they think that we're going to continually see him on the sidelines.

 

[Mondio]

I think his name does just fine for me. It's like Gooood and then you can add in a, ahKuuuuhhhhhnnnnnst. he has a name that doesn't need to be changed, it works in a stadium filled with football fans.

 

[PikeBadger]

I think the most interesting thing I read here is that McCarthy, Ball, and Gutekunst report to Murphy.... That apparently puts them all on equal footing in the organization... and means the GM cannot directly hire or fire the other 2.

Yep, that’s my take also. Times have changed.

 

[PikeBadger]

As I've posted several times in the past and supported it with numbers the media has significantly exaggerated about Brady taking a discount with the Patriots as he has earned more money in total compared to Rodgers over the past few years.

Agree and I’ve become very suspicious over the last few years that perhaps Brady has other agreements for guaranteed compensation from other sources that are connected but officially outside of the Patriots organization.