Brian Gutekunst new Packers GM

[brandon2348]

I believe McCarthy will have more say in personnel decisions.

Yes, remember all the rumors of all the tension in the building regarding free agency and lack of moves?

I think MM got his man in Gutekunst. I'm sure MM wanted his buddy Schneider but it would of cost way way to much draft capital to part with IMO. We don't need Gutekunst to go "Schneider Crazy" like he did last season with Seahawks. We just need a good draft and to make a few key moves and the Packers will be right back into the thick of things.

 

[brandon2348]

I'd part ways with Nelson. However, I would not predict it. There's a difference.

They need to do something. Our receiving Corp isn't "35 million dollars good". That's just way too much $ and with small guarantees to Cobb and Nelson I expect some change there. I would think something has to give.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Yes, remember all the rumors of all the tension in the building regarding free agency and lack of moves?
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I think MM got his man in Gutekunst. I'm sure MM wanted his buddy Schneider but it would of cost way way to much draft capital to part with IMO. We don't need Gutekunst to go "Schneider Crazy" like he did last season with Seahawks. We just need a good draft and to make a few key moves and the Packers will be right back into the thick of things.

The new GM did not get to hire his HC, and the HC got an extension to boot before the GM was picked. It's for that reason alone I believe McCarthy will have more say.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

The new GM did not get to hire his HC, and the HC got an extension to boot before the GM was picked. It's for that reason alone I believe McCarthy will have more say.

Assuming Gutekunst wants to keep McCarthy (I believe he will)

 

[HardRightEdge]

Assuming Gutekunst wants to keep McCarthy (I believe he will)

The organization just gave McCarthy an extension before hiring the new GM. What makes you think Gutekunst would be allowed to fire him? McCarthy would not have been given that extension if Gutekunst (or whoever they hired) was going to be given that authority. Do you think there's no guaranteed money in coaches contracts? Of course there is. A year from now? Maybe. But Gutekunst will have to make his case to the guy who gave McCarthy that extension which one assumes was Murphy. And to be convincing he'll have to do a bang up job with the personnel in year one.

 

[BrokenArrow]

I'd part ways with Nelson. However, I would not predict it. There's a difference.

Why? Because Hundley failed to find him open? Don't look at his lack of production with Hundley. Look at his production with Rodgers, which was pretty much on par with previous years if you extrapolate. There were a lot of times he was open where Hundley was off doing his own thing, getting sacked or taking one of his 13 step dropbacks.

 

[BrokenArrow]

The organization just gave McCarthy an extension before hiring the new GM. What makes you think Gutekunst would be allowed to fire him? McCarthy would not have been given that extension if Gutekunst (or whoever they hired) was going to be given that authority. Do you think there's no guaranteed money in coaches contracts? Of course there is. A year from now? Maybe. But Gutekunst will have to make his case to the guy who gave McCarthy that extension which one assumes was Murphy. And to be convincing he'll have to do a bang up job with the personnel in year one.

Murphy didn't extend him. He doesn't negotiate coaching contracts. That's not his job. His extension was done very early in the season and most likely Thompson extended him. Gutekunst can do as he pleases as GM, but I doubt he has any intention of letting MM go, given the extenuating circumstances which heavily contributed to our 7-9 record this season. He probably recognizes that MM has actually done an outstanding job to have so many winning seasons given that he has had mainly rookies and second year players to replace injured veterans the past 7 years.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

The organization just gave McCarthy an extension before hiring the new GM. What makes you think Gutekunst would be allowed to fire him? McCarthy would not have been given that extension if Gutekunst (or whoever they hired) was going to be given that authority. Do you think there's no guaranteed money in coaches contracts? Of course there is. A year from now? Maybe. But Gutekunst will have to make his case to the guy who gave McCarthy that extension which one assumes was Murphy. And to be convincing he'll have to do a bang up job with the personnel in year one.

McCarthy's extension occurred early in the 2017 season and just a few days ago it was reported the new GM will have final say whether or not McCarthy remains with the team for 2018 or beyond. His extension meant NOTHING to the current situation and even if it did, contracts can end at any time albeit with a monetary penalty.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

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Lets get ready for 2018!

It appears that Mr. Murphy has acquiesced to the wishes of Messers. McCarthy & Rodgers - Neither wanted Russ Ball, or so we're told.

How this all plays out we'll have to wait and see. I, like everyone else here, have no idea as to whether this is a good thing or bad thing. Time will tell.

For now, I'll be optimistic. Go Pack Go!

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I like that the Packers promoted one of their two in-house candidates with extensive experience in scouting as their new general manager in Gutekunst. Hopefully he will truly use all methods available to improve the team's roster.

 

[longtimefan]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.packersnews.com/amp/1011265001

A league familiar with Gutekunst said he likely will be more aggressive in free agency.

“I’d be surprised if he isn’t,” the source said.

 

[PikeBadger]

I think people can look at his experience and make an educated judgement about his qualifications. The new GM has worked his entire career so far in scouting and talent evaluation. That is ultimately what GM's do so the pick looks solid with regard to his prior experience. Obviously, some GM's are much better at talent evaluation that others and that makes all the difference in who wins and who has fans mocking their own team.

We’ve been winning a lot more than losing over the last 10 years and we have no shortage of fans mocking our own team.

 

[Dantés]

Promoting the top college scout in the organization while still keeping Ball is a slam dunk. No telling how it will work out, but by all accounts they’ve got two people who are really good in their roles.

 

[jetfixer]

We are all dreaming of big signings, but the big one will be making 12 the highest paid player in the league.

 

[G0P4ckG0]

We are all dreaming of big signings, but the big one will be making 12 the highest paid player in the league.

I dream that doesn't happen. Not because I don't want him on the team, but because I'm hopeful he will give us a hometown discount. His salary could handcuff us until he retires...

 

[Curly Calhoun]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.packersnews.com/amp/1011265001

Interesting read, thanks for posting it.

I hope it all works out.

 

[jetfixer]

I dream that doesn't happen. Not because I don't want him on the team, but because I'm hopeful he will give us a hometown discount. His salary could handcuff us until he retires...

I agree with that process, but I think we have been on a discount for a few years now.

 

[Croak]

Wow, the optimism in this thread is encouraging. When I heard the news, I was indeed cautious. TT isn't really gone. What effect will his senior advisory capacity have on the new GM? I'm also concerned about bringing up someone who has been working under TT for a while. Until I read some of the posts above, I was concerned we might be faced with business as usual. Just good enough, but not great.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

We’ve been winning a lot more than losing over the last 10 years and we have no shortage of fans mocking our own team.

The Packers have won a lot of games solely based on having the best quarterback in the league. The overall talent level on the roster wasn't good enough over the past few years though.

I dream that doesn't happen. Not because I don't want him on the team, but because I'm hopeful he will give us a hometown discount. His salary could handcuff us until he retires...

I highly doubt Rodgers will agree to a hometown discount with the Packers.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I agree with that process, but I think we have been on a discount for a few years now.

A Discount Double Check for sure when you compare what AR has been paid to others.

Nobody wants to see the Packes having to shell out big bucks for arguably one of the best players in the NFL. The alternative is don't and just let Hundley run the offense

 

[PackAttack12]

I highly doubt Rodgers will agree to a hometown discount with the Packers.

I highly doubt it as well. He's never really had a reason to give the Packers discounts, as a lot of the money probably wouldn't be used to make key additions in free agency anyway. With the lack of support he's had from the rest of the roster and from some of the coaching staff over the past few seasons, I had no problem with him cashing in as much as possible.

It will be interesting though if he's assured that taking a slight discount could aid in more aggressive roster building. While highly unlikely, it could happen.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I highly doubt it as well. He's never really had a reason to give the Packers discounts, as a lot of the money probably wouldn't be used to make key additions in free agency anyway. With the lack of support he's had from the rest of the roster and from some of the coaching staff over the past few seasons, I had no problem with him cashing in as much as possible.

It will be interesting though if he's assured that taking a slight discount could aid in more aggressive roster building. While highly unlikely, it could happen.

If I remember correctly Rodgers implied in an interview last year that he deserves to be the highest paid player in the league. Therefore I don't believe he would agree to a discount.

 

[gbgary]

There is all kinds of cap room if they do something with either Jordy or Cobb along with Matthews.

as of now the Packers 2018 cap space is $21.6m (which assumes a $176m team cap) which . 2017 team cap was $167m.

 

[gbgary]

If I remember correctly Rodgers implied in an interview last year that he deserves to be the highest paid player in the league. Therefore I don't believe he would agree to a discount.

he can't expect management to go all-in if he isn't a little flexible.

 

[Half Empty]

I honestly don't know why anyone with the little information available to us the fans would have an opinion about either one of them lol.

Probably so they can post to a sports forum. Kind of hard to stimulate discussion, otherwise.