The drooling baboons wanted to bring Favre back even if it meant cutting Rodgers loose.
Brian Gutekunst new Packers GM
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The drooling baboons wanted to bring Favre back even if it meant cutting Rodgers loose.
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AR in 2017, "When it comes to setting the market values, I let that stuff take care of itself," Rodgers said in June. "I know my value in this league, and I know the team appreciates me. I'm going to continue to make myself an indispensable part of this roster. When you do that, when your time comes up to get a contract, you usually get a contract extension."
Reading between the lines: PAY ME. Now I am speculating here but I believe if he gets some assurances from Gute that money is going to be spent on bringing in some key FA help then he may take a little haircut. AR is going to end up with more money than he could ever spend and I am sure he is investing wisely and making sure his long-term financials are in good standing. He wants rings and the best way to get those rings is with a shot of talent injected into the roster. Don't think for a second think AR isn't aware of his perceived ranking when the all-time great discussion comes up and how rings, or lack thereof, are a massive part of the discussion. All I know is it's going to be an interesting off-season and one unlike we've had in a long time. I like it as there seems to be a new energy and sense of anticipation in the air.
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2017 saw Aaron Rodgers value skyrocket! What better proof did he need than seeing the Packers go from a Playoff team with him to a cellar dweller without him?
Aaron Rodgers is a smart guy and winning is important to him. It also seems like Rodgers is very tuned into how fans perceive him and his legacy. While AR will no doubt row out of Green Bay with a boat load of cash when his contract is redone, I don't see him being unreasonable in his demands and how they impact the team going forward. I think in AR's mind he is thinking "I deserve to be paid, but let's do it in a way that allows the team to stay competitive and at the end of the day, I look like a team guy."
I also don't see AR telling the Packers "you know what, I am going to test the Free Agent market and get THE biggest contract someone like Cleveland will pay me." I predict AR will finish his career wearing Green and Gold, it's just going to cost the Packers more money to make that happen, as it should. It will now be BK's job to figure out how to do it.
Aaron Rodgers is a smart guy and winning is important to him. It also seems like Rodgers is very tuned into how fans perceive him and his legacy. While AR will no doubt row out of Green Bay with a boat load of cash when his contract is redone, I don't see him being unreasonable in his demands and how they impact the team going forward. I think in AR's mind he is thinking "I deserve to be paid, but let's do it in a way that allows the team to stay competitive and at the end of the day, I look like a team guy."
I also don't see AR telling the Packers "you know what, I am going to test the Free Agent market and get THE biggest contract someone like Cleveland will pay me." I predict AR will finish his career wearing Green and Gold, it's just going to cost the Packers more money to make that happen, as it should. It will now be BK's job to figure out how to do it.
SoonerPack
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I never hold those statements against personnel people. What would you have said after the pick when a reporter put a mic in your face? "Uhhh, I really think this kid is going to be a bust and led the charge in trying to have us go a different direction." Can you imagine? Yes, the honesty would be refreshing but that would never happen. As soon as the card is handed in "that guy" turns into "our guy." Now if he was the sole reason we took KT then I could see holding it against him but even then, there are always going to be flops.
SoonerPack
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My exact sentiments. He is very in tune with how people perceive him and it matters to him. He is also aware that if they break the bank on him the team's ability to rejuvenate the roster will be greatly hampered. The man deserves to get paid and in a big way but I think there is a happy medium all parties can settle on.
Pokerbrat2000
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Agreed. If TT was held accountable for all the picks he made that he thought were "great picks" at the time, he would have been out the door a long time ago. It's the nature of selecting someone in a draft, work, college recruiting, etc. I have seen a lot of friends get married and later divorced, not one of them said at the time of their engagement "yeah, she isn't what I wanted, but what the hell".
SoonerPack
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Great analogy! "Yeah, Becka wasn't my ideal choice but at this point, I was looking for best player available regardless of position..."
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Rodgers might agree to a favorable structure of the contract but he definitely wants to get paid based accordingly on his value to the team.
I truly hope you're right about Rodgers possibly taking a discount to improve the chances of winning another ring but don't count on it happening though.
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Ron Wolf weighs in on his son not being offered the GM job. As always, pretty classy response by RW. I hope he has a talk with his son and just tells him to bide his time in Green Bay until such time that he is really ready.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...rs-obviously-dont-think-eliot-wolf-is-worthy/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...rs-obviously-dont-think-eliot-wolf-is-worthy/
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Unfortunately I don't believe Wolf wants to stay in Green Bay after not being offered the general manager position.
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Pokerbrat2000
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I'm guessing he is very disappointed and "butt hurt". That is why I hope Ron talks some sense into him. I would be a bit surprised if he left due to someone else offering him a GM job, but wouldn't be surprised to see him leave because he feels his time in Green Bay is up and/or his services aren't appreciated enough.
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The Packers just announced the team has promoted Russ Ball to executive vice president/director of football operations, the position Wolf held for last season. In my opinion that all but guarantees Eliot will seek some other opportunity.
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Per Rapoport, Russ Ball gets a new title and Gutekunst, Ball, and McCarthy report to Mark Murphy.
Also, the correct pronunciation of Gutekunst is "GOO-tuh-kunst".
Also, the correct pronunciation of Gutekunst is "GOO-tuh-kunst".
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Idk if I would call it classy, Ron is clearly not too happy.
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Well.....yes, that would seem like a nail in Eliot being gone. Unless, they have a "position/title" higher than what he was. LOL
I still kind of get a kick out of all these "new positions" and names for them. I guess the bottom line, get and retain the guys you want and give them any damn "title" they want to hang on their door that does that.
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Unfortunately aside of general manager there's most likely not another title above director of football operations.
Pokerbrat2000
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Like I said, if they want Wolf and Wolf wants to stay, they will figure out a "title" that works for all...and of course a salary.
I think you are right though, promoting Ball to Eliot's former position, probably means the Wolf has left the Den.
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I think if the reports of Wolf being upset are accurate and he leaves, I would say the right choice was made with Gutekunst. This would be a strong indicator he was too immature to handle the duties. At its core, the job of GM is about managing people and information, you have to suceed there long before you ever get to the point of selecting players.
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I was thinking more in line with "Director of Festivus and all things good".
SoonerPack
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I'm not counting on it but if I was forced to gamble on it I would go with my theory. He isn't going to have any issues paying bills anytime soon and at the end of his career he isn't going to be measured by chili in the bank but rings on the fingers. He has a lot of respect for Brady and this same issue is one TB has had to confront a couple times and took a haircut on multiple occasions. In the NBA, Tim Duncan did the same thing on multiple occasions as well. As a life-long, die-hard fan I want another ring so badly I can taste it. I can't imagine what AR is feeling inside and how much higher his desire to succeed is than mine. Maxing out his pay or taking a little less to bring in more talent is what this comes down to and the fact he is so aware of all the variables involved gives me hope he takes the haircut.
SoonerPack
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As soon as I inserted "position" into the sentence I knew something along this line was in the offing! Boys will be boys!Wait......I know a Becka.....what position does she like?
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As I've posted several times in the past and supported it with numbers the media has significantly exaggerated about Brady taking a discount with the Patriots as he has earned more money in total compared to Rodgers over the past few years.
I think the most interesting thing I read here is that McCarthy, Ball, and Gutekunst report to Murphy.... That apparently puts them all on equal footing in the organization... and means the GM cannot directly hire or fire the other 2.
