Brayden Narveson

[thequick12]

Anders was oddly a roller coaster on XPs way more than field goals...I mean truthfully his field goals he was 20 for 20 under 40 yards. BUT was 7 for 13 over 40...

Anders and Narveson are truly it seems VERY similar young kickers when it comes to field goal attempts...but one thing Narveson has been pure on is XPs it seems.

I believe Carlson went 82% on fgs...Narveson is at 69%

Carlson went 4 of 8 on kicks of 40 to 49 yards and 3 of 5 on kicks of 50 + yards.

Narveson is 3 of 6 from 40 to 49 yards and has no attempts from 50+

They are similar and Narveson does seem better at xps but he doesn't have the leg that Carlson does. I suspect he wont get many if any attempts from 50 +

 

[Pkrjones]

I believe Carlson went 82% on fgs...Narveson is at 69%

Carlson went 4 of 8 on kicks of 40 to 49 yards and 3 of 5 on kicks of 50 + yards.

Narveson is 3 of 6 from 40 to 49 yards and has no attempts from 50+

They are similar and Narveson does seem better at xps but he doesn't have the leg that Carlson does. I suspect he wont get many if any attempts from 50 +

IF that's the case, MLF won't trot Narvy out for 50+yd kicks then I'd MUCH rather bring back Carlson. If/when a drive stalls at the 32-40 yd line a team MUST be able to attempt 3 pt try & not say "well crap, we need some points so now we need to go for it on 4th & 7."

Carlson was perfect on FG's inside 40, and 54% over 41. Pick your poison, but GB needs to put up points & not rely on this D to bail them out with multiple TO's every game. Worst case is that MLF goes for 2 PAT more often IF Carlson struggles with them, again.

 

[Magooch]

I will say, somewhat in defense of Narveson (not an endorsement though, lol)....If my memory serves me correct just about all of his misses have been pushed to the right.
Whereas with Anders (again, if memory serves me correct)...he was a little more scattershot, and less "consistent" with his misses, if that makes sense...

In this way you might look at the two and reasonably conclude that Narveson - who is basically always having the same kind of miss - is perhaps more "fixable." Maybe it's a simple tweak of his technique or his plant, maybe it's something to be hashed out between the snap/hold/kick setup, but if nothing else you'd like to think that a consistent miss is easier to iron out than a guy who is missing in multiple ways, know what I mean?

Like I said. Not really an endorsement of Narveson but just food for thought.

 

[Pugger]

Seeing we are still stuck with Narveson tells me the FA cupboard for kickers is pretty bare.

 

[OldSchool101]

I believe Carlson went 82% on fgs...Narveson is at 69%

Carlson went 4 of 8 on kicks of 40 to 49 yards and 3 of 5 on kicks of 50 + yards.

Narveson is 3 of 6 from 40 to 49 yards and has no attempts from 50+

They are similar and Narveson does seem better at xps but he doesn't have the leg that Carlson does. I suspect he wont get many if any attempts from 50 +

Narveson made several from 50+ in Preseason including a game Winning 56 yarder

Carlson is the only Kicker in history that improved his % the farther away he was. So they shipped him as far away as possible ti improve his game

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[Krabs]

Narv Dawg ate on Sunday. No misses. He's gotta eat!

 

[Pkrjones]

FG percentage (71%, up from 69%) & confidence climbing, still perfect on XPA's. Very happy for him slaying it every time when called upon... needs to keep stringing these successes together.

 

[thequick12]

Lets just score touchdowns!

 

[Don crowley]

Half serious, half joking - would we be any worse off if we'd just kept Anders?

Small sample size, sure, so I guess you could try and convince yourself there's more possible upside with Narveson, but I don't know...

FWIW:
Narveson this year is sitting at 69% overall field goals made. 100% 20-29 yards, 66% 30-39 yards, 50% 40-49 yards, and hasn't attempted any over 50 yards.

Last season Carlson was 82% overall on field goals. 100% 20-29 yards, 100% 30-39 yards, 50% 40-49 yards, and 60% at 50+ yards.

Narveson does have the advantage of being 100% on XPs while Carlson last year finished at 87%.

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[Magooch]

I'm ready for this experiment to be over.

 

[Krabs]

Narv Dawg needs to be placed by where the red fern grows.

 

[El Guapo]

I admire Gutekunst recognizing that he's been too quick to make changes at PK. However, Carlson earned the trust last year by having a great start to the year. Narveson has been consistently bad in terms of NFL kickers, and now worries me that this will impact our post-season chances.

 

[milani]

I admire Gutekunst recognizing that he's been too quick to make changes at PK. However, Carlson earned the trust last year by having a great start to the year. Narveson has been consistently bad in terms of NFL kickers, and now worries me that this will impact our post-season chances.

Definitely. If you are in a playoff game and it comes down to hitting one even from 40-45 would you trust him?

 

[Magooch]

I mean, it's not even hyperbole to say we literally have the worst starting kicker in the league right now. And with how tight the NFCN is shaping up to be it's not even out of the realm of possibility to say that it very may well end up being a FG or two worth of difference between winning the division or finishing last.

 

[SudsMcBucky]

I mean, it's not even hyperbole to say we literally have the worst starting kicker in the league right now. And with how tight the NFCN is shaping up to be it's not even out of the realm of possibility to say that it very may well end up being a FG or two worth of difference between winning the division or finishing last.

this is why it always baffled me when people would be so up in arms about paying $3MM or so for a top kicker. They can be THAT important.

 

[tynimiller]

It essentially seems we ought to have stuck with Anders...my worry is the folks that were in Anders corner all last year fending off against the cut idea are now the ones saying we need to cut and roles have reversed....which could be a massive stalemate.

 

[milani]

this is why it always baffled me when people would be so up in arms about paying $3MM or so for a top kicker. They can be THAT important.

Joseph made 8 in a row before his 2 misses last night. Go figure.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I do think that the Packers future 2024 kicker was in the stadium yesterday, but he flew back with the Cardinals, Chad Ryland.

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[Pkrjones]

I do think that the Packers future 2024 kicker was in the stadium yesterday, but he flew back with the Cardinals, Chad Ryland.

...or Matthew Wright (49ers), whichever gets waived 1st. 9'ers Jake Moody may be out a few more weeks, Prater could be back within 2 weeks.

 

[milani]

...or Matthew Wright (49ers), whichever gets waived 1st. 9'ers Jake Moody may be out a few more weeks, Prater could be back within 2 weeks.

So you're telling me there's a chance??
YES!!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Besides following GB ive been keeping an eye on the jets this year just to see how they would do with a top QB at the helm. They lost to the bills 23-20 last night. We’re not the only team with kicking woes. On 2 different FG attempts Their kicker hit the left goalpost on one and the right goalpost on the orher. Neither went in.

Right. But both Kickers (Bass and Zuerlein) had issues last night, but it was a tough conditions with high swirling winds, especially on the one side of the field.

...or Matthew Wright (49ers), whichever gets waived 1st. 9'ers Jake Moody may be out a few more weeks, Prater could be back within 2 weeks.

This is hard to swallow but the data clearly shows The only way our kicking situation is going to improve is if narveson improves. As of oct 14th narveson ranks 33rd out of 33 qualifying kickers in FG %. The guy they had in camp, greg joseph ranks 32nd out of 33 kickers. There are no kickers available that would be any better including Ryland. The only other option would be to try out alex hale, the rookie kicker on the practice squad. We have what We have. At least narveson is better than the guy we had last year who was bad in both FG% and XPs.

Let's face it, kicking in the NFL is harder than most fans want to admit. Whether its a slight injury, weather, holder, snapper, D-line, etc. things can change from week to week for a kicker. All it takes is a miss or 2 and suddenly you are statistically a "bad kicker".

I doubt that Bass or Zuerlein will be looking for new jobs this week, but if you Google their names, their fans think they should be.

My issue with Narveson is he looks nervous and uncomfortable, lacking any kind of confidence. The Announcers Sunday said he was really struggling in pregame warmups, those are all issues for me. Whether the Packers bring in Riley Patterson, Matthew Wright, Chad Ryland or even trade for a Vet kicker, none of them are going to probably be perfect the rest of the season. However, if I am Gute, at this point, I'm done with Narveson and I go with 1 of the above scenarios.

The Packers are 4-2 and a legit playoff team, they need a guy in there that isn't afraid to kick and has some built up confidence. More importantly, a guy that isn't afraid that if he misses, he is on the next plane out, which is where I think Narveson sits.

 

[Krabs]

My issue with Narveson is he looks nervous and uncomfortable, lacking any kind of confidence. The Announcers Sunday said he was really struggling in pregame warmups, those are all issues for me. Whether the Packers bring in Riley Patterson, Matthew Wright, Chad Ryland or even trade for a Vet kicker, none of them are going to probably be perfect the rest of the season. However, if I am Gute, at this point, I'm done with Narveson and I go with 1 of the above scenarios.

Agreed, I don't think Narv Dawg is our kicker by the end of the season. With all said, he is statistically the worst kicker in the league through 6 games. No kicker is perfect as you mentioned. However, Ryland didn't even flinch when he had a game winner against the 49ers. It was right down the middle.

The Packers are 4-2 and a legit playoff team, they need a guy in there that isn't afraid to kick and has some built up confidence. More importantly, a guy that isn't afraid that if he misses, he is on the next plane out, which is where I think Narveson sits.

Agreed.

 

[milani]

Right. But both Kickers (Bass and Zuerlein) had issues last night, but it was a tough conditions with high swirling winds, especially on the one side of the field.








Let's face it, kicking in the NFL is harder than most fans want to admit. Whether its a slight injury, weather, holder, snapper, D-line, etc. things can change from week to week for a kicker. All it takes is a miss or 2 and suddenly you are statistically a "bad kicker".

I doubt that Bass or Zuerlein will be looking for new jobs this week, but if you Google their names, their fans think they should be.

My issue with Narveson is he looks nervous and uncomfortable, lacking any kind of confidence. The Announcers Sunday said he was really struggling in pregame warmups, those are all issues for me. Whether the Packers bring in Riley Patterson, Matthew Wright, Chad Ryland or even trade for a Vet kicker, none of them are going to probably be perfect the rest of the season. However, if I am Gute, at this point, I'm done with Narveson and I go with 1 of the above scenarios.

The Packers are 4-2 and a legit playoff team, they need a guy in there that isn't afraid to kick and has some built up confidence. More importantly, a guy that isn't afraid that if he misses, he is on the next plane out, which is where I think Narveson sits.

Back in 1997 after Chris Jacke walked the Packers drafted Brett Conway. In his first preseason game he missed even the easy ones. He injured himself in practice and Wolf brought in Ryan Longwell. Now Longwell was known to be limited to about 50 yards at best but over his 9 years as our kicker he was consistent and made a number of game winners even after he went to the Vikings in 2006. Sounds like Narveson needs a year off and should try somewhere next season.

 

[gopkrs]

I'm guessing Narv Dog will be here for awhile. That is if he can kick long ones...54 yards. I don't have a handle on him being able to do that. I know he has done it. But he definitely needs to calm down some. Have some confidence.

 

[Magooch]

By my count, Carlson left 23 points on the board in 17 games last season.

To this point, Narveson has left 15 points on the board...in 6 games.