If he starts entertaining other offers at mid-season, than Houston, we have a problem. I would hope that his agent wouldn't break the NFL rules and do that.If they wait until mid-season and he produces as well as the second half of last year, the price could go up a bit, and he will certainly be entertaining other offers.
I think the injury risk factor, while there, is less a part of my reason for wanting the Packers to wait on resigning Love. His price is already near that of a top QB in the NFL, maybe that goes up a bit, if in fact he comes out blazing in the first 8 games. However, that price and strategy could decline dramatically if Love isn't the guy the Packers thought he was and struggles in the first half of the season.I can't remember what GM or former GM it was yesterday ( Speilman from the 33rd team? ) but he said when they are your guys, a lot of the times you take the injury risk, and get the contract done early.
This is correct. I was just saying that the Packers in general like taking CBs in the first round. I would not mind that and would prefer Wiggins. What I've read is he could be there at 25, but wouldn't be surprised if he is in fact gone by then.I don't think Krabs was comparing them as equal in skillset, only that a true CB would be preferable to a Swiss army knife, as you note, with DeJean.
To me the difference is that DeJean may be there at #25. Wiggins and the other true perimeter CBs will be long gone.
Yep, he weighed in at 178. That's a light professional football player that needs to put on some muscle to withstand the NFL season. That speed though!I think Wiggins will be there at #25, his weight is what puts him in question for the Packers, although he has been putting on some weight, and is at least in the 180's now, so maybe...
Edit: The reason I think he is in play, is because the Packers have shown they like speed in secondary...4.28...
Absolutely no idea which way the Packers will lean tonight. Logic dictates CB/OL however my guess is if it is one of those positions, it won't be for one of the usual suspects. Will be someone mocked typically in the 35-45 range. I can't remember the last time they picked in the 1st round where before the pick I thought it will be player A, B or C and ends up being player Z.
Good points. I don't think giving him an extension matters if it's now or mid-season. I'd rather not have him distracted with it - just give him his $50 mil/3 year contract. Not sure about contract length, just guessing. Also guessing he'll get $100 mil guaranteed.If he starts entertaining other offers at mid-season, than Houston, we have a problem. I would hope that his agent wouldn't break the NFL rules and do that.
Plus, as I mentioned before, the Packers always have the option to slap the Franchise tag on him.
My guess is that Gluten trades up so he can get either Quinyon Mitchell or Terrion Arnold. Wiggins and Kool-Aid will probably drop to 25 if he wants to wait.Absolutely no idea which way the Packers will lean tonight. Logic dictates CB/OL however my guess is if it is one of those positions, it won't be for one of the usual suspects. Will be someone mocked typically in the 35-45 range. I can't remember the last time they picked in the 1st round where before the pick I thought it will be player A, B or C and ends up being player Z.
But there's a risk of pissing a player off and creating some degree of resentment; maybe not something you want to risk with your new franchise quarterback. Franchise tag for a QB this year is over $38M anyway; not like they'd be saving truckloads of money.If he starts entertaining other offers at mid-season, than Houston, we have a problem. I would hope that his agent wouldn't break the NFL rules and do that.
Plus, as I mentioned before, the Packers always have the option to slap the Franchise tag on him.
if it is one of those positions, it won't be for one of the usual suspects. Will be someone mocked typically in the 35-45 range. I can't remember the last time they picked in the 1st round where before the pick I thought it will be player A, B or C and ends up being player Z.
Looks like we were both wrong about Gluten taking a CB. I have a feeling that he just didn't see value in either Wiggins or Kool-Aid at #25, and Mitchell and Arnold were off the board.With the 25th pick in the 2024 NFL Draft the Green Bay Packers select Kool Aid McKinstry CB Alabama
Looks like we were both wrong about Gluten taking a CB. I have a feeling that he just didn't see value in either Wiggins or Kool-Aid at #25, and Mitchell and Arnold were off the board.
I'm a little bummed. On the bright side Valentine played well at CB last year, and he can still add some talent there in the draft. This draft had no first round safeties other than DeJean, and his stock fell.
I'm ok with the pick. Love needs time to work and the back need places to run. With the exception of another OL and one or two RBs, I expect the rest of the picks will all be defense. He'll find a gem or two out there.
Agreed. Arnold and Mitchell really dropped, and DeJean is still available, so is Edgerrin Cooper at LB. And Valentine played well last year at CB, so I'm fine with the Morgan pick. It solidifies the line, protects Love, and should help the run game (Morgan is supposed to be a good run blocker), and offer some competition/depth at LT.There is still some solid outside corner pieces out there.
I like the pick. Morgan has a ton of experience with 37 starts at LT for Arizona. He's fully recovered from a 2022 ACL tear, and he's versatile. I think he is better than Barton and Guyton, who went after him.Morgan wasn't on my radar at all. Not super stoked about the pick. I have learned to not care so much though. In the end, an average NFL career is 3.5 years. Teams really do just cycle through players. I personally just thought there were a lot of great and better players on the board at that spot. Probably could have got Morgan with the 2nd of our 2nd round picks. Maybe even in the 3rd. I don't think any mock draft had him in the 1st. I could be wrong though.
Kind of how I felt. Especially, with how the night was going and most of the top secondary guys still on the board.Morgan wasn't on my radar at all. Not super stoked about the pick. I have learned to not care so much though. In the end, an average NFL career is 3.5 years. Teams really do just cycle through players. I personally just thought there were a lot of great and better players on the board at that spot. Probably could have got Morgan with the 2nd of our 2nd round picks. Maybe even in the 3rd. I don't think any mock draft had him in the 1st. I could be wrong though.
I'm not really that high on DeJean. I know his RAS score is in the 9's, but I think there are better players.I like the pick. Morgan has a ton of experience with 37 starts at LT for Arizona. He's fully recovered from a 2022 ACL tear, and he's versatile. I think he is better than Barton and Guyton, who went after him.
But I agree with you, it does look like a reach, based on mock drafts at lest. I didn't see him in the first round either. It's a solid, if boring pick.
DeJean is still available, as is LB Edgerrin Cooper. If they are still there at #41, I think Gluten will take one.
As for DeJean, who just about everyone had going in round 1, he is still recovering from a broken leg and that may be why he slipped. He'll present more value in round 2. The guy is very talented and would make a great starting S with McKinney.
Yeah, I get the pick. I just think they could have easily gotten him in the 2nd round. They could have had Wiggins, which is the guy I wanted them to take. What do I know though. Again, I'm just a dude sitting on a lazy boy in Appleton.Kind of how I felt. Especially, with how the night was going and most of the top secondary guys still on the board.
The more I read about Morgan though, the more I understand the pick. He fits the Packer OL profile to a tee. Size, versatility and experience. While I prefer him over Mims or Guyten, I would have been happier with Barton or just seeing Gute trade out of the 1st. Of course, had he traded out, none of us would have known it was do that or select Morgan.
Lots of good players available in round 2, Gute got the OL guy he probably wanted before the draft started.
A more specific example of something I cannot stand personally that I’m hearing….Picking Morgan doesn’t mean they didn’t like Barton…no, it could be they had them very similar but they see more in Morgan either overall or in the specific plan they think fits the best 5 approach.