2020 Packers first round pick: Jordan Love, QB

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

A rapidly regressing QB? That is a bit over dramatic if you ask me, but whatever. I mean it's not like we went 13-3 last year, but sure. As for We are not going to The Superbowl in the near future, I'll take that bet.

Do you want to buy a bridge by any chance ?

 

[fix8ed]

They are paying Rodgers a heck of a lot of money to be in rebuilding mode....

And yet, it seems to be exactly what he is doing.

 

[Do7]

Do you want to buy a bridge by any chance ?

Nah a bridge won't do anything for me at the present time. But I'm gamed. What are you willing to wager?

 

[Dantés]

Without claiming any inside knowledge whatsoever, Greg Cosell speculated on the Ross Tucker Podcast that LaFleur wanted to find a player for the future who will just run the offense, rather than make changes at the line or ad lib on the fly. That was his take-- that Rodgers is so set in his ways that trying to get him to run the offense as designed is not working.

What he did say based on tape study is that Love's skill set is tailored to this offensive system. That doesn't mean that he's going to hit necessarily, but that if he were to hit, Cosell believes that this would be the right offense for him.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Nah a bridge won't do anything for me at the present time. But I'm gamed. What are you willing to wager?

I`ll publicly praise him and change my avatar to a picture of Rodgers AND add something to my profile. How about that ?
AND admit I was wrong too !!!

 

[Mondio]

HA, you'll admit you were wrong while posing like your avatar. I can see it now

 

[rmontro]

I have read this a few times. As much as I want to upgrade our 2nd string QB, as of right now we haven't. Will he be an upgrade over Boyle eventually? Hopefully, but we all saw how poor of a #2 QB that DeShone Kizer was and he was considered by some as a future star.

So yes, if all goes well, perhaps in 2021 Love becomes a backup that might be an improvement over Boyle, Kizer or Hundley. But for now, all we have is a developmental QB that will need quite a bit of work and proving himself on an NFL playing field, to be considered a quality #2 QB.

Yeah, Rodgers was 6-10 in his first year as a starter, and he sat for three years and he's about as quick a study as anyone. If Rodgers gets hurt, I doubt anyone is going to expect Love to lead us to the Super Bowl. Now if Rodgers suffers a career ending injury (God forbid), we're probably going to be sitting more confidently that we have his potential replacement.

 

[gopkrs]

I cannot understand why people think the pick means re-building. Re-building is when you start to give away your good players so you can stack up on young ones. This is not that.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I just can't stop singing this song this morning!

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[easyk83]

I don't like the selection of Love at all. While the move has a slim chance of working out the same way as Thompson drafting Rodgers in 2005 let's be realistic about it, that doesn't happen all that often in the first place. In addition it differs significantly from the situation 15 years ago as Rodgers hasn't hinted at retirement even once and Love wasn't considered to be a possible #1 overall pick who dropped for whatever reason.

In my opinion Love is a boom or bust prospect who is capable of making deep throws with ease but struggles with his decision making as well as when being pressured. While he put up decent numbers against Mountain West opponents he struggled against Power 5 teams throwing eight interceptions in four games against Wake Forest, Michigan State and LSU. In addition let's be aware that Love threw the most INTs of all quarterbacks in the FBS last season. While his numbers looked more impressive in 2018 you have to realize that he threw 18 of his touchdown passes in four games against BYU, Nevada-Las Vegas, New Mexico and San Jose State, teams which combined to have a 15-34 record while playing in the Mountain West conference.

I'm fully aware the Packers still have eight picks left and that it's way too early to evaluate this year's draft but on the other side there's no doubt the first rounder is the most valuable one and Gutekunst did nothing to upgrade the team for most likely at least the next two years. With the team having made the NFCCG last season I would have definitely preferred to spend the pick on another position to improve the chances of making it to the Super Bowl in 2020.

Once again, Gutekunst trading up to select Love might end up being a genius move down the road but at this point there's no reason to like it by any means in my opinion.

One caveat, he's not exactly a boom or bust pick but rather a most likely bust with some chance of success. Odds are he wont even become a solid starter for us and that's not a knock against him, the reality is that most QBs fail to develop at this level. The betting man should wager that we'll regret this phase of Rodgers career in about 5-10 years even more than we do now while we shuffle quarterbacks and hope to find a good one.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

we spent 2, it cost 1. Same as before

Actually.....spent 1, cost 2. If you want to be "technical" about it.

 

[easyk83]

The NBA style sign and trade is rare in the NFL but a hoping man can hope against hope that we'll hopefully use this pause in the draft to shop Love to quarterback needy teams in the top of the Second Round. Atleast I freaking hope so. Gutekunst has been an aggressive draft day dealer and maybe just maybe this plays out as a more beneficial approach to trading back.

Of course given what a crap shoot the draft is this is unlikely given that one never really knows where players should expect to be taken or drafted. So here's hoping that Love becomes a good one for us, I hate the pick but I'll happily own this if I'm proven wrong.

 

[PackAttack12]

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[Mondio]

Actually.....spent 1, cost 2. If you want to be "technical" about it.

i'm gonna put my technicals on your chin...

 

[CanadaCheese]

A rapidly regressing QB? That is a bit over dramatic if you ask me, but whatever. I mean it's not like we went 13-3 last year, but sure. As for We are not going to The Superbowl in the near future, I'll take that bet.

Bet on!!!!!
If you think we have a remote hope of beating SF, Dallas, Seattle, or NO in the next few years I'll take the bet. This locker room will be toxic.

 

[easyk83]

Think about this one, the Bears are still looking for their franchise quarterback as they have been for the last thirty plus years. As for the rest of the North the best QB drafted during that time period has been Daunte Culpepper. Three teams, about 9 first round picks and multiple second round selections and the valedictorian is Daunte Culpepper flanked by Matthew Stafford and Teddy Bridgewater on the medal podium.

 

[CanadaCheese]

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He's on fire alright!!!!!!

 

[Patriotplayer90]

Without claiming any inside knowledge whatsoever, Greg Cosell speculated on the Ross Tucker Podcast that LaFleur wanted to find a player for the future who will just run the offense, rather than make changes at the line or ad lib on the fly. That was his take-- that Rodgers is so set in his ways that trying to get him to run the offense as designed is not working.

What he did say based on tape study is that Love's skill set is tailored to this offensive system. That doesn't mean that he's going to hit necessarily, but that if he were to hit, Cosell believes that this would be the right offense for him.

You're right, but that's been the issue from the beginning. The guys in the locker room, at least the good ones, love Rodgers. That's always been an issue because everyone on top of him has been kind of soft and seem to be at odds with him and fight him rather than try to give him what he needs to supplement his rare talent. TB just traded for Gronkowski and is taking Brady's input into consideration, they get it. KC is surrounding Mahomes with players who elevate him, not the other way around. Meanwhile, Gute basically kicked Nelson out of town and drafted 3 mid round developmental receivers and signed an obvious washed up TE. They treat him like part of the problem when he's covered problems and carried worthless teams for the majority of his career.

Rodgers is set in his ways, but so has the FO and coaches for his entire career. I know who I think will have a better legacy

 

[CanadaCheese]

Think about this one, the Bears are still looking for their franchise quarterback as they have been for the last thirty plus years. As for the rest of the North the best QB drafted during that time period has been Matthew Stafford. Three teams, about 9 first round picks and multiple second round selections and the valedictorian is Daunte Culpepper flanked by Matthew Stafford and Teddy Bridgewater on the medal podium.

Agreed 100%.......can't imagine being a Lions fan........no hope for decades

 

[Do7]

I`ll publicly praise him and change my avatar to a picture of Rodgers AND add something to my profile. How about that ?
AND admit I was wrong too !!!

Sounds good!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Think about this one, the Bears are still looking for their franchise quarterback as they have been for the last thirty plus years. As for the rest of the North the best QB drafted during that time period has been Matthew Stafford. Three teams, about 9 first round picks and multiple second round selections and the valedictorian is Daunte Culpepper flanked by Matthew Stafford and Teddy Bridgewater on the medal podium.

You Saying we are about to hear the announcement that the Packers traded Love for Mack and 3 first rounders?

 

[Do7]

Bet on!!!!!
If you think we have a remote hope of beating SF, Dallas, Seattle, or NO in the next few years I'll take the bet. This locker room will be toxic.

Considering we beat 2 of the 4 already, I'll take my chances.

 

[RRyder]

Worst reasons I've seen for hating the pick (paraphrasing a lil bit)

1: "Rodgers has said he wants to play into his 40's. Why draft a guy now?"

Well because unless Rodgers play improves over what we've seen the last 2-3 years he won't be playing in GB into his by age 39 one way or another

2: "The odds of drafting another great QB is low. Why even try"

This is probably the most internet reasoning ever

3: "The Packers just resigned themselves to mediocrity for the remainder of Rodgers time here"

A single draft pick late in the 1st round isn't going to be the deciding factor on that

4: "Rodgers was a potential #1 pick. Love was never in that discussion"

Rodgers was only in discussion for the #1 overall pick because SF needed a QB. Neither him nor Smith were considered in the discussion as best prospects going into that draft. And it should be noted Love (in a much stronger QB class) was mocked as high as #6

5: "This doesn't help us this year or next year at all"

If we were drafting high in the 1st this would be valid (see my views on the Gary selection). If you're drafting late in round 1 but only going to be drafting guys that could be instant impact players then you're going to miss out on some darn good developmental guys because you can't look past the season right in front of you (see the Kenny Clark selection)

6: "Should've just waited till Rodgers retires and then took a QB"

So you can be in a position were you might have to draft a QB high that you might not like but can't pass on because you absolutely need a QB versus drafting one that you love? Thats the exact reason why QBs who aren't even top 10 prospects go in the top 3 lots of years

But my personal favorite...

7: "The Packers have continually ignored to surround Rodgers with weapons by refusing to draft offense in round one and this is just another slap in the face and keeping it a one man show"

This one is just comical to me. Not only has Rodgers had a top flight offensive line in GB for most of the Rodgers era but for the most part he's been working with one of the best WRs corps in the league. Yes missed draft picks have diluted the skill positions on the outside the last 2 years but acting like Rodgers hasn't been given talent on offense over the years is simply re writing history because you're blinded by the present


If you didn't like Love as a prospect I get not liking the pick. I really do. He's pretty much the definition of boom or bust. But it seems its more a love of Rodgers getting in the way and a failure to see past this season

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rodgers was spotted waiting for Love's plane to land today, so he can "show the little fella around"

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[AmishMafia]

Agree, but only if you agree right here and now that Jordan Love cost the Packers TWO draft picks!

I advocating using pick 30 to move back into the mid 2nd and get another 3rd. Take the 3rd and get 2 4th round picks. And grab 2 WRs there.

It really cost us 4 picks.