2019 Week 10 vs. Carolina: Studs and Duds

[Dantés]

I dunno how much grain there is to go against. Maybe we need a poll.

Seems like every other poster listed that call as a dud.

 

[swhitset]

Seems like every other poster listed that call as a dud.

Well, while watching it live, I literally said to a friend that I admired the call, but considered it a mistake... BEFORE the ball was snapped.

 

[Dantés]

Well, while watching it live, I literally said to a friend that I admired the call, but considered it a mistake... BEFORE the ball was snapped.

I want my coach to make that call every time. Also wish they would have gone for it on 4th down when Rodgers tried to draw then off and took a penalty.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Seems like every other poster listed that call as a dud.

My poll currently shows 1 vote for "Go For It", none for the FG. What grain?

 

[Dantés]

My poll currently shows 1 vote for "Go For It", none for the FG. What grain?

Have you not read this thread? This is a weird controversy.

 

[Poppa San]

I thought the packers had a coil system under the turf to control slipping in this kind of weather, anyone can educate me on this.

The coils are to keep the field from freezing in to a solid block like asphalt. The ground is not frozen, just muddy. Ask any area farmer. Players were slipping on a muddy, wet turf. Wonder if the plastic woven into the grass affects that.

 

[Zartan]

I dident mind them going for it. Its just they could had a better play call in mind.

I get the idea on going for it there. With getting the ball back at start of the half getting a TD before and after the half would be huge.

 

[Mondio]

I sure hope Mennenga is not getting into the kid's head.

It was similar last year, pretty good when it’s warm, started cooling as the weather did.

50 yard fields for Carolinas offense all first half wasn’t helping

 

[longtimefan]

I will go against the grain here-- I applaud Petals for being aggressive and going for the touchdown. I blame the execution, not the call.

He said he would call a diff play

 

[Mondio]

The coils are to keep the field from freezing in to a solid block like asphalt. The ground is not frozen, just muddy. Ask any area farmer. Players were slipping on a muddy, wet turf. Wonder if the plastic woven into the grass affects that.

I think it’s too much artificial with real or something, footing has been an issue all year here. Snow late obviously I’d expect it, but by now you think they’d have the footwear thing down on their own field

 

[HardRightEdge]

Have you not read this thread? This is a weird controversy.

So far, the poll is about what I expected, split about 50/50, as much woof as warp in the grain of the fabric. In my opinion there's overthinking in the comments but nonetheless interesting.

 

[gbgary]

studs: the D as a whole until the last drive (which i blame on pettine really), aaron jones, adams, graham, kumerow maybe, bulaga maybe, (everyone else on the O was meh at best). pettine for finally putting the pressure back in the D. the smiths!

duds: king (messed up more than he made), pettine for that prevent D call in that last drive. the smiths for keeping that last drive alive. lol

 

[HardRightEdge]

He said he would call a diff play

Who wouldn't with 20/20 highsight?

 

[PackAttack12]

A major pillar of the CAR gameplan was to target Kevin King, and it worked most of the time.

There were times that I was wondering whether or not Alexander was in the game. Didn’t hear his name and rarely seen his jersey for the first three quarters.

 

[XPack]

I will go against the grain here-- I applaud Petals for being aggressive and going for the touchdown. I blame the execution, not the call.

3 would have done good that close to HT. No need to risk those.

 

[AmishMafia]

So far, the poll is about what I expected, split about 50/50, as much woof as warp in the grain of the fabric. In my opinion there's overthinking in the comments but nonetheless interesting.

Wonder what the poll would look like if it was taken right before the play was actually run.

We were gashing them well in the run game, but it looked like they knew what was coming and stacked the box. I would have not been in short yardage personnel but spread them out and give AR audibles for quick pass.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Wonder what the poll would look like if it was taken right before the play was actually run.

Or what it would look like now if it had worked?

 

[melvin dangerr]

The coils are to keep the field from freezing in to a solid block like asphalt. The ground is not frozen, just muddy. Ask any area farmer. Players were slipping on a muddy, wet turf. Wonder if the plastic woven into the grass affects that.

Thank you I wasn’t sure

 

[Pugger]

Looks like everything went wrong in that run. Both LBs had a straight unchallenged shot to our RB. A big clusterfeck of a call.

That was one of the dumber calls I've seen in a while (until Ron Rivera went for 2 early in the 3rd ). There were only 2 seconds to go right before the half and if you don't score a TD you get squat. It would have been nice to have that 3 point cushion late in the 4th...

 

[Dantés]

He said he would call a diff play

He would go for it with a different play call, or he would opt for the field goal?

 

[HardRightEdge]

He would go for it with a different play call, or he would opt for the field goal?

At first he he said he'll have to look at the tape to see if it was the right play. Later, he said in hindsight he should have gone for it with a different play which is what anybody would say. No thought of going for a FG; gut call not analytics.

You can see his comments here at 1:35: https://www.packers.com/video/lafleur-packers-riding-high-as-they-hit-the-bye

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

One more dud for today ....

Jason Garrett


Good freaking god that was stupid red zone play calling giving the Vikes a win they didn't earn

 

[swhitset]

One more dud for today ....

Jason Garrett


Good freaking god that was stupid red zone play calling giving the Vikes a win they didn't earn

I’d say they earned it. Still bad play calling though.

 

[Cheese Meister]

Duds:
Either the defense that made way too mistakes on the last Panther drive,
or the Panthers not being able to take advantage of all our mistakes on their last drive.

Trying to draw out the opposing defense on 4 down which only ends in a delay of game. Who are they trying to kid.

Giving me gray hairs on the last play. My hair should be snow white by now.

 

[adambr2]

I don't feel strongly one way or another about the end of 1st half decision. Coaches have done it both ways, analytics are pretty split on it, it's a situation where the HC will be praised if he gets it and criticized if he doesn't.

Game flow should be considered too. If you're 28-24 at the time and headed for a shootout you're probably going to want to go for it, if it's a 10-3 defensive struggle, take the points.

Game flow here was pretty neutral I would have been fine with the decision either way. In the future I'd like to see them operate with a little more intended cushion on the clock so that sort of thing doesn't happen.