WR Jeff Janis, Saginaw Valley

FrankRizzo · Apr 29, 2014

captainWIMM said:
I don´t care what Janis thinks about himself. I guarantee he will not produce numbers anywhere similar to Jordy´s in the NFL.

Very few will.
Even more talented players haven't.

FrankRizzo · May 2, 2014

Another article on Jeff Janis.
Remember, we have had a lot of J's at WR.
The J-Crew.
Jordy, James Jones, Jennings.....

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/a...nksrc=story_article_yb_original_head_16337341

HyponGrey · May 2, 2014

Hijacking this thread for Jordan Matthews because: http://www.packerforum.com/threads/jeff-janis.51262/

Remember how I said Matthews plays a lot like Jordy? They were both coached by former Packers WR coach James Franklin in college. I'm told we have a history of drafting WR that played for him. Expect Schneider to draft him in round 1.

FrankRizzo · May 10, 2014

FrankRizzo said:
Another article on Jeff Janis.
Remember, we have had a lot of J's at WR.
The J-Crew.
Jordy, James Jones, Jennings.....

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/a...nksrc=story_article_yb_original_head_16337341

WE GOT MY GUY !!!!!!

Tricky thing is we also got 2 other WR's I like before him..... and there's only room on the team for 2 new ones max.

Uh-Oh.

thequick12 · May 10, 2014

It will be Nelson Cobb Boykin Adams aberderius and Janis opening day.

Einstein McFly · May 10, 2014

He doesn't seem to play nearly as fast as his numbers, and considering how polished Adams and Aberderus are, I suspect he'll have to be the next Brett Swain WR special teamer. More likely, he'll be on the practice squad.

HyponGrey · May 11, 2014

Einstein McFly said:
He doesn't seem to play nearly as fast as his numbers, and considering how polished Adams and Aberderus are, I suspect he'll have to be the next Brett Swain WR special teamer. More likely, he'll be on the practice squad.

We should have learned our lesson from Charles Johnson, he won't make PS, somebody will grab him.

thisisnate · May 11, 2014

A-b-b-r-e-d-e-r-i-s. Abbrederis. Abb red er is. Very easy.

Einstein McFly · May 11, 2014

thisisnate said:
A-b-b-r-e-d-e-r-i-s. Abbrederis. Abb red er is. Very easy.

LOL no it's not.

GoPGo · May 12, 2014

According to an analysis last year by DraftMetrics, vertical leap and 10-yard split are the two most valuable predictors of NFL success for wide receivers (40-yard dash is nearly meaningless). Janis had the second-fastest 10-yard split at 1.47, just 0.01 second behind Dri Archer. That indicates exceptional acceleration and efficiency getting off the line. With any luck, Janis might just be our next Driver (7th round Packer HOF WR.)

HardRightEdge · May 13, 2014

Einstein McFly said:
LOL no it's not.

I think it is:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/34134/jared-abbrederis

HardRightEdge · May 13, 2014

The issue with Myles White is his weight. He was awfully slight at 6'1", 182 when measured at the the 2013 combine. Also, he was IRed with a meniscus tear last season that did not require surgery.

If he's healthy and has been able to put on 15 lbs. with no meaningful loss of speed, I'd make him the odds on guy to take the #5 spot. That's several "ifs", but minor meniscus tears are common and not typically threatening and he has the frame to build up some NFL poundage.

Dylan Hoppe · May 13, 2014

HardRightEdge said:
The issue with Myles White is his weight. He was awfully slight at 6'1", 182 when measured at the the 2013 combine. Also, he was IRed with a meniscus tear last season that did not require surgery.

If he's healthy and has been able to put on 15 lbs. with no meaningful loss of speed, I'd make him the odds on guy to take the #5 spot. That's several "ifs", but minor meniscus tears are common and not typically threatening and he has the frame to build up some NFL poundage.

If he put on some bulk, enough to prevent injuries and is still just as fast. Hello Desean Jackson 2.0 and one of the best deep threats on the roster (without the gang member aspect)

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HardRightEdge · May 13, 2014

Dylan Hoppe said:
If he put on some bulk, enough to prevent injuries and is still just as fast. Hello Desean Jackson 2.0 and one of the best deep threats on the roster (without the gang member aspect)

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I wouldn't jump that 2.0 gun. And added bulk is not just about injury prevention; it has to do with handling press coverage, shoving off DBs to get separation or positioning on a jump ball, breaking tackles from time-to-time, and perhaps playing gunner.

It sounds awfully pedestrian, but who fills the the end-of-the-bench spots often comes down to special teams, and gunner is typically filled by WRs or DBs with some long speed. I don't think a guy can play gunner at 180 lbs.; he typically has to get around 2 blockers.

Dylan Hoppe · May 13, 2014

HardRightEdge said:
I wouldn't jump that 2.0 gun. And added bulk is not just about injury prevention; it has to do with handling press coverage, shoving off DBs to get separation or positioning on a jump ball, breaking tackles from time-to-time, and perhaps playing gunner.

It sounds awfully pedestrian, but who fills the the end-of-the-bench spots often comes down to special teams, and gunner is typically filled by WRs or DBs with some long speed. I don't think a guy can play gunner at 180 lbs.; he typically has to get around 2 blockers.

If you watch white in college, he was a deep threat. He actually did remind me of Jackson without the attitude every time he did something good. I didn't say that was the only reason he needed to bulk up either

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HardRightEdge · May 13, 2014

Not previously discussed here, I don't think, is that Adams impact will likely first be noted in the red zone, though perhaps not immediately.

Our red zone TD % was uncharacteristically poor last season; I attribute that largely to Jennings absence. Jennings made hay on the slant-in-or-slant-out unpredictability off a quick break. Adams, on the other hand, has all the makings of a guy who can to up get it with good body control coupled with good hands.

Two different kinds of weapons, but both have the qualities to make hay in tight quarters.

When I've observed the Jennings affect in the past, I was countered with "no, we miss Finley there". I would counter that by saying in previous years our red zone success was solid whether Finley was on the field or not. The missing "x" factor last season was Jennings.

Deleted member 6794 · May 14, 2014

Packers and Janis have agreed to terms as well. No financial details released so far.

thequick12 · May 14, 2014

Jennings is the best reciever the packers have had since sterling. We prob did miss him in the red zone. I'm still hoping Finley clears and we get him back he was really playing good last year before he got hurt. That 1.47 split for Janis is impressive along with his 6.64 3 cone drill and 20 reps at 225 and 37 " vertical. So he is strong fast and quick and he can jump as long as he can catch the ball he should develop into a very good player.

FrankRizzo · May 14, 2014

GoPGo said:
According to an analysis last year by DraftMetrics, vertical leap and 10-yard split are the two most valuable predictors of NFL success for wide receivers (40-yard dash is nearly meaningless). Janis had the second-fastest 10-yard split at 1.47, just 0.01 second behind Dri Archer. That indicates exceptional acceleration and efficiency getting off the line. With any luck, Janis might just be our next Driver (7th round Packer HOF WR.)

Wait a minute..... they say Janis is not athletic, not "really" that fast or quick.
Does he have "deceptive" speed like they said about Jordy Nelson and Eric Decker for some reason?

Then they tell us Janis is "raw" because he played against subpar competition.
So ironic it all is.

GoPGo · May 15, 2014

FrankRizzo said:
Wait a minute..... they say Janis is not athletic, not "really" that fast or quick.
Does he have "deceptive" speed like they said about Jordy Nelson and Eric Decker for some reason?

Then they tell us Janis is "raw" because he played against subpar competition.
So ironic it all is.

"They" always tend to say a lot of silly crap during draft season, don' "they?" I don't remember specifics, but I remember some pretty dismissive analyses of Driver prior to the '99 draft too.

Deleted member 6794 · May 15, 2014

FrankRizzo said:
Wait a minute..... they say Janis is not athletic, not "really" that fast or quick.
Does he have "deceptive" speed like they said about Jordy Nelson and Eric Decker for some reason?

Then they tell us Janis is "raw" because he played against subpar competition.
So ironic it all is.

Janis has very small hands for a receiver (9 inches) and is inconsistent catching the ball. In addition he´s extremely raw as a route runner and not strong after the catch. There´s no denying he put up huge numbers in Division II but it is highly unlikely that he will be able to put up even close to similar numbers in the NFL.

Not all seventh round picks out of small schools work out like Driver. And don´t forget that it took Driver some time to adjust to the NFL as well as he had only 37 receptions during his first three seasons with the Packers.

tyler414 · Nov 1, 2015

I hope he works out,
I was real happy when they picked him.

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