What would be this season's catchphrase?

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I may have "settled" right up there in Green Bay ;)

I know that my "Just Entertain Me" may sound like settling, but for me, the Packers are just that, entertainment. Free, if I watch it on TV. I don't profit off the Packers, nor do they influence the quality of my life. It doesn't mean I don't want them to win it all, but falling short of winning the Super Bowl doesn't give me a buzz kill on the rest of the season. I enjoy each and every game for what it is. I enjoy the offseason, the preseason and everything else involving the Packers. A Super Bowl just ADDS more entertainment, it doesn't take the fun of the other 364 days away from me.

Sometimes I wish I could do it the way you do but I just can't and believe me I've tried. I guess its just the way i'm wired. It's not "free" for me but it is my choice to make it that way. Some people go all out on bird watching, stamp collecting, golf or hunting. I choose to do it with the Green Bay Packers. It's a passion for me and I belive when your passionate about something you have a good chance to be good at it. I've been fortunate to work very hard in my young adult life so I have the time and resources to follow the team at the level I do. I wouldn't change any of it.

The only thing I would change is getting this phony NFL GM out of Green Bay because the Packers truly are wasting years.

He'd be a great GM for let's say "Walmart". His cost effective approach would certainly make him a star there. He loves cheap ****.
 
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Said Belichick never....


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Bellichick's job is to win...so is Thompson's btw.... I would not expect them to say that. We are fans.... we are supposed to get enjoyment from watching.... If you are not... perhaps it is your perspective that is part of the problem. This does not mean that I won't complain to some extent when I think the organization is making a mistake, but I try to maintain my perspective. This is not my life, it is entertainment.
 

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Bellichick's job is to win...so is Thompson's btw.... I would not expect them to say that. We are fans.... we are supposed to get enjoyment from watching.... If you are not... perhaps it is your perspective that is part of the problem. This does not mean that I won't complain to some extent when I think the organization is making a mistake, but I try to maintain my perspective. This is not my life, it is entertainment.

It really depends how far you are into it. If your a casual fan where the whole thing is a social event and you watch some games on TV then you probably have a different take then the fan that actually follows them to road games and has a total buy in.

The fan that drives 8 hours to go see a game might have a little more vested.

Right now Aaron Rodgers is the only thing that makes that drive worth it. Who wants to drive 8 hours to watch Randall, Rollins and the others flop around the field and get used up?
 

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It really depends how far you are into it. If your a casual fan where the whole thing is a social event and you watch some games on TV then you probably have a different take then the fan that actually follows them to road games and has a total buy in.

The fan that drives 8 hours to go see a game might have a little more vested.
I agree to a point... personally, I watch every game... usually on TV.... I live an hour from Green Bay and should probably try and get to more games, but Life usually gets in the way. I do follow the Packers pretty closely even in the offseason which is evidenced by my frequent presence in this forum, and unfortunately, I do get overly emotional when things happen in games that I perceive to be "stupid errors", but ultimately I try to remember that I have absolutely no bearing on how the Packers perform, and try and remember it is entertainment. Was I disappointed that the Packers got blown out in the NFCCG? yep, but I still enjoyed the fact that they got there.
 

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I agree to a point... personally, I watch every game... usually on TV.... I live an hour from Green Bay and should probably try and get to more games, but Life usually gets in the way. I do follow the Packers pretty closely even in the offseason which is evidenced by my frequent presence in this forum, and unfortunately, I do get overly emotional when things happen in games that I perceive to be "stupid errors", but ultimately I try to remember that I have absolutely no bearing on how the Packers perform, and try and remember it is entertainment. Was I disappointed that the Packers got blown out in the NFCCG? yep, but I still enjoyed the fact that they got there.

I enjoyed the run as much as anyone. I'm just at the point where I'm finally tempering my expectations due to "No Fun Ted". I hope these young guys surprise the **** out of me but we'll see. That's where it's at right now.
 

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I'm not as cynical about developments as we move forward towards the upcoming season as some posters seem to be. Actually, I'm looking forward to this season and many more, including the drafts. Why should I not?

Any lean I have towards optimism does not exist because I choose to blissfully ignore weaknesses that existed on the roster last season and still may. I recognize them, too. Nor am I without disappointment that Thompson has not dabbled just a little bit more in free-agency, or at least he could have focused more on certain other positions that seemed to be the most needy and of a higher priority. And I'm in agreement that if he had retained a player or two (more) of our own there would be less holes to fill through the draft crapshoot. But the clock cannot be turned back and any roster moves that have already been made up to this point cannot be undone, especially by me. This includes opportunities lost. So why should I sulk about them? It wouldn't make any difference except to serve as fuel for my own misery.

Regardless, whether I would choose to be optimistic or pessimistic all of the impending results that will unfold through the upcoming season will be totally out of my control. I've opted for both mindsets in the past and have found that to be true with either. Therefore, I will prefer to lean towards being optimistic. There's no point in getting too wound-up about things that are totally out of my control.

That does not stop me in any way from weighing-in on the good and the bad as they happen, and I will continue to do so. Plus, I can still be critical of the team's perceived mistakes and even grouse about their disappointments - to a point, that is - same as any other fan would do. Hopefully, I can also glean just a little wit and humor from it all.

But I draw the line at making the Packers the center of my universe. That's a line I refuse to cross. I will not live my life vicariously through the team and I will not allow any of their misadventures and my reactions to them harm any of my far more important relationships with my family and friends. Nor will they cause me to hate people that I don't even really know. And for sure it will not cause me to destroy my hard-earned stuff out of anger or frustration like the pathetic nut-case in the link below:

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It's not right to let everyone hang when you have the last rated pass defense and you do basically nothing to improve it other then bringing back a Jacksonville cast off. Not addressing this because of pure stubborn nature isn't fair to everyone.

Not the type of thing that teams that win Championships do.

But how does that equate to ruining it for everyone? Obviously it has been ruined for you and many others here but some fans may not consider what the Packers have accomplished over Teds tenure to be ruined.

This is where someone always brings up the point where if you don't win the SB the season is a failure and if you are happy with a failed season you are not a true fan. More subjective BS.

Bottom line is no one gets to determine how anyone else should feel about a season or a team. If its ruined for you fine. If the season was a failure for you fine. If you can't get enjoyment out of season that ends without a SB win fine. That doesn't mean it applies to everyone and those people can be just as much true fans as anyone else. Keep in mind when I use the word "you" here I am talking about these types of fans in general and not you specifically. I'm not trying to get in an argument and I understand and respect your feelings on the matter. I totally get why some fans have the feelings towards Ted that they do.
 

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But how does that equate to ruining it for everyone? Obviously it has been ruined for you and many others here but some fans may not consider what the Packers have accomplished over Teds tenure to be ruined.

This is where someone always brings up the point where if you don't win the SB the season is a failure and if you are happy with a failed season you are not a true fan. More subjective BS.

Bottom line is no one gets to determine how anyone else should feel about a season or a team. If its ruined for you fine. If the season was a failure for you fine. If you can't get enjoyment out of season that ends without a SB win fine. That doesn't mean it applies to everyone and those people can be just as much true fans as anyone else. Keep in mind when I use the word "you" here I am talking about these types of fans in general and not you specifically. I'm not trying to get in an argument and I understand and respect your feelings on the matter. I totally get why some fans have the feelings towards Ted that they do.

Well i think everyone would find some level enjoyment in a Super Bowl championship but I get your point. I say ruined because I belive the Packers should have had more success then they did and I belive a competent GM would of given the Packers more of a chance to have that. I have closely followed Thompson and I really don't understand the method to his madness. It's very frustrating. I've blindly believed in this Thompson in the past and I've had to pull myself out of denial and face the reality.

And here we go again is what it feels like already. I'm just at a point where I'm not gonna pay ridiculous money to go to games anymore when it is my belief the Packers front office isn't going all in. It's just difficult because there is so much potential here and Thompson is ruining it for me yes.

Maybe when the team goes back to purgatory people will better understand what was lost.
 

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Said Belichick never....


Catchphrase - "Win the Draft or Bust"


Since BB is an NFL head coach and GM I would hope that is not the attitude he would take because for him it is not entertainment. I would expect every coach, GM, player to say something along the lines of it's SB or nothing. I don't believe for a second however that, had the Patriots lost in the AFCC game or the SB that BB would have been calling his players failures and saying it was a failed season and truly meaning it. I don't believe that deep down Vince Lombardi looked at every non SB season as a failure and those players as losers.
 

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I don't believe for a second that Lombardi didn't consider it a failure to not win the championship.
 

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Well i think everyone would find some level enjoyment in a Super Bowl championship but I get your point. I say ruined because I belive the Packers should have had more success then they did and I belive a competent GM would of given the Packers more of a chance to have that. I have closely followed Thompson and I really don't understand the method to his madness. It's very frustrating. I've blindly believed in this Thompson in the past and I've had to pull myself out of denial and face the reality.

And here we go again is what it feels like already. I'm just at a point where I'm not gonna pay ridiculous money to go to games anymore when it is my belief the Packers front office isn't going all in. It's just difficult because there is so much potential here and Thompson is ruining it for me yes.

Maybe when the team goes back to purgatory people will better understand what was lost.


I gave you an agree because I believe this is truly how you feel not because I agree with your sentiments. I guess what get me sometimes is when some fans, again not you specifically, feel that because I do not criticize Ted or because I may feel a non SB season was not a complete failure that I am somehow less of a fan.

I should add that it does go both ways. Some fans believe that anyone who complains is not a true fan. I hope I have never given anyone that impression. I may disagree with you but we are all fans in our own way.
 
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I gave you an agree because I believe this is truly how you feel not because I agree with your sentiments. I guess what get me sometimes is when some fans, again not you specifically, feel that because I do not criticize Ted or because I may feel a non SB season was not a complete failure that I am somehow less of a fan.

Well i don't see it that way at all. 2014 season was really the only season since super bowl win that was a complete failure IMO on how that whole thing went down. I could see how some might feel that way about 2011. For me it's just been a cumulative build up and attrition of playoff failure. I am not one of those that expect a Super Bowl every year.

I'm just at a point where I love the Packers but want a divorce from Ted Thompson. It's a real tricky situation. :(
 

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I don't believe for a second that Lombardi didn't consider it a failure to not win the championship.

So you think that after a non SB season he told his players that the season was a complete waste and they were a bunch of losers. You don't think that he could find some positives about a season that did not end in a SB victory.

I think you are missing my point and that may be my fault. Yes, not winning the championship is a failure and if that is the ONLY thing that matters then I guess the any non championship season is a failure. I'm not a Lombardi expert by any means but I do not believe he couldn't take a loss and find something positive about it. Be it a single players performance or a refusal for the team to quit or what have you. Some people act as if its all or nothing. You win or you lose. Its all good or its all bad. I don't feel that way and I doubt Lombardi did either. That may be the way he talked as a motivational tool but if you believe that is the way he truly felt you also believe that he couldn't say "I'm proud of the way you guys played today. You played a hell of a game today and did everything you could but we came up short." If he truly felt it was win or else he would have to say "we failed and you guys are losers" Somehow I doubt Vince Lombardi truly thought of his players as losers even if they didn't win.
 

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I'm not as cynical about developments as we move forward towards the upcoming season as some posters seem to be. Actually, I'm looking forward to this season and many more, including the drafts. Why should I not?

Any lean I have towards optimism does not exist because I choose to blissfully ignore weaknesses that existed on the roster last season and still may. I recognize them, too. Nor am I without disappointment that Thompson has not dabbled just a little bit more in free-agency, or at least he could have focused more on certain other positions that seemed to be the most needy and of a higher priority. And I'm in agreement that if he had retained a player or two (more) of our own there would be less holes to fill through the draft crapshoot. But the clock cannot be turned back and any roster moves that have already been made up to this point cannot be undone, especially by me. This includes opportunities lost. So why should I sulk about them? It wouldn't make any difference except to serve as fuel for my own misery.

Regardless, whether I would choose to be optimistic or pessimistic all of the impending results that will unfold through the upcoming season will be totally out of my control. I've opted for both mindsets in the past and have found that to be true with either. Therefore, I will prefer to lean towards being optimistic. There's no point in getting too wound-up about things that are totally out of my control.

That does not stop me in any way from weighing-in on the good and the bad as they happen, and I will continue to do so. Plus, I can still be critical of the team's perceived mistakes and even grouse about their disappointments - to a point, that is - same as any other fan would do. Hopefully, I can also glean just a little wit and humor from it all.

But I draw the line at making the Packers the center of my universe. That's a line I refuse to cross. I will not live my life vicariously through the team and I will not allow any of their misadventures and my reactions to them harm any of my far more important relationships with my family and friends. Nor will they cause me to hate people that I don't even really know. And for sure it will not cause me to destroy my hard-earned stuff out of anger or frustration like the pathetic nut-case in the link below:

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This person obviously has some other issues going on. I don't think this is a practice that needs to be taken to be a die hard fan and wouldn't recommend it. ;)
 

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So you think that after a non SB season he told his players that the season was a complete waste and they were a bunch of losers. You don't think that he could find some positives about a season that did not end in a SB victory.

I think you are missing my point and that may be my fault. Yes, not winning the championship is a failure and if that is the ONLY thing that matters then I guess the any non championship season is a failure. I'm not a Lombardi expert by any means but I do not believe he couldn't take a loss and find something positive about it. Be it a single players performance or a refusal for the team to quit or what have you. Some people act as if its all or nothing. You win or you lose. Its all good or its all bad. I don't feel that way and I doubt Lombardi did either. That may be the way he talked as a motivational tool but if you believe that is the way he truly felt you also believe that he couldn't say "I'm proud of the way you guys played today. You played a hell of a game today and did everything you could but we came up short." If he truly felt it was win or else he would have to say "we failed and you guys are losers" Somehow I doubt Vince Lombardi truly thought of his players as losers even if they didn't win.

I think where the frustration lies is when you do lose you learn from it and make adjustments and changes and try some new things. To just do the same thing over and over again just infuriates the situation.
 

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So you think that after a non SB season he told his players that the season was a complete waste and they were a bunch of losers. You don't think that he could find some positives about a season that did not end in a SB victory.

I think you are missing my point and that may be my fault. Yes, not winning the championship is a failure and if that is the ONLY thing that matters then I guess the any non championship season is a failure. I'm not a Lombardi expert by any means but I do not believe he couldn't take a loss and find something positive about it. Be it a single players performance or a refusal for the team to quit or what have you. Some people act as if its all or nothing. You win or you lose. Its all good or its all bad. I don't feel that way and I doubt Lombardi did either. That may be the way he talked as a motivational tool but if you believe that is the way he truly felt you also believe that he couldn't say "I'm proud of the way you guys played today. You played a hell of a game today and did everything you could but we came up short." If he truly felt it was win or else he would have to say "we failed and you guys are losers" Somehow I doubt Vince Lombardi truly thought of his players as losers even if they didn't win.

I didn't say he thought of his players as losers ;I don't know what he said to his players, I'm sure he was proud of them. I agree with you; there are a lot of things to be happy about and proud of in a season that falls short of the ultimate goal. But if you didn't reach the ultimate goal, it was , in the most important measure, a failure.
 

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I think where the frustration lies is when you do lose you learn from it and make adjustments and changes and try some new things. To just do the same thing over and over again just infuriates the situation.
You just have to take solace in the fact that it's not you that's stuck in a rut. Not much consolation, I know.
 

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This is what happens when fans take this game too "personally".....and possibly alcohol is involved too ;)

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Sometimes I wish I could do it the way you do but I just can't and believe me I've tried. I guess its just the way i'm wired. It's not "free" for me but it is my choice to make it that way. Some people go all out on bird watching, stamp collecting, golf or hunting. I choose to do it with the Green Bay Packers. It's a passion for me and I belive when your passionate about something you have a good chance to be good at it. I've been fortunate to work very hard in my young adult life so I have the time and resources to follow the team at the level I do. I wouldn't change any of it.

The only thing I would change is getting this phony NFL GM out of Green Bay because the Packers truly are wasting years.

He'd be a great GM for let's say "Walmart". His cost effective approach would certainly make him a star there. He loves cheap ****.

There may be hope for you yet:) I used to feel the way you do. I watched every game no matter what. When I bought my store I closed on Sundays during FB season so I wouldn't miss them. Every loss got me bummed until the next game. My house is full of Packer memorabilia and I still search Ebay every day for certain things. For me it all changed when my nephews started playing youth football and I started missing the Packer games because for me there really was no choice. Once I missed the first couple I started seeing the whole thing with a new perspective. Now I probably miss as many games as I see because of the way things have worked out for me but I'm fine with that. As long as you level of support makes you happy that is all that matters. I just feel a little bad for you that your feelings towards Ted takes away from your enjoyment. From other aspects of my life I know how it feels to have something beyond your control have such an important and negative impact on what you get out of it.
 

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Good for the psychiatry business, though. I think I recognize that female Seahawk's fan from when I attended a game against the Seahawks. She was standing at the ****** next to me. :coffee:
 

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Good for the psychiatry business, though. I think I recognize that female Seahawk's fan from when I attended a game against the Seahawks. She was standing at the ****** next to me. :coffee:
and the new TV business as well. Some of the YouTube video I watch of "angry fan reactions" sometime appear staged to me, but probably only because I can't imagine being THAT angry at a game played by millionaires that I have no personal connection with. I'm not saying I don't get emotional during a game, but when the clock hits 00:00 and the game is over, I know that as long as I am alive, there will be another one soon enough and plenty of things to do in my life until then. I am guessing that most of the players walk off the field, pick up their paychecks and try to do the same.
 

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