What Happened in Green Bay - Bleacher Report

[Curly Calhoun]

I think it is funny that Jennings can go on FS1 shows all offseason and spew his headlines. They build up this plot line that "wow, this young guy coming in with no HC experience is going to try and get through to Rodgers who is at the back 9 of his career. He better hope Rodgers plays well or he'll be done for" During MarchMadness, the beginning of baseball, end of NBA/NHL (not that they mention hockey) there are so many other sports and stories they could talk about. There is always what feels like a segment a week about Rodgers and the Packers.

And now that Rodgers finally responds to what feels like 6 months of getting called out by the media. On whatever Cris Carter's show is this morning, the story today was how "Rodgers could have come out and been a better leader with his comments. He didn't have to take shots at Jennings and Finley. I think that is a poor image. He should be building relationships with his new WRs and coaching staff, not taking shots at his old teammates"

That right there is why listening to these shows and then forming your opinion is such hogwash. Rodgers gets slammed any chance they can take and doesn't make a peep. As soon as he mentions something about their boy on FS1 in Jennings, who like Rodgers said, if he isn't talking about Rodgers, when else do people listen to him? They still have a gripe with him and say he could have said it better.

In my opinion. I like how he called both of them irrelevant. I like the shots he took, because Rodgers name coming out of their mouth is honestly the only time you hear from those players. They make a lot of noise and the new WRs need to hear that they ARE irrelevant. DONT listen to them. Media doesn't report the Jordy Nelson's, James Jones, John Kuhn. Media talks about the negative and THEY spew more bad ideas in the young WRs minds than Rodgers comments do.

Aaron Rodgers is living rent-free inside Greg Jennings' head.....Hopefully for him he'll learn how to let it go.....



Several former teammates have come to the defense of Rodgers since the article published, including John Kuhn, James Jones, Casey Hayward and even Jeff Janis. Almost universally, former and current teammates have defended Rodgers’ leadership ability – turning Jennings and Finley into the loudest voices in an otherwise empty room.


https://packerswire.usatoday.com/20...ires-back-at-greg-jennings-jermichael-finley/

 

[Stanger37]

I agree with a lot of what you said, except the part about "the new WR's need to hear they ARE irrelevant". Aaron meant WR's like Jennings that haven't been on the team or in the locker room for several years are irrelevant. Aaron would never say the current WR's are irrelevant.

I'm sorry, maybe that came out funny. I meant in a way that the new WRs on the team need to know that what Jennings, Finley and anyone else comes out to say, they're irrelevant, that doesn't matter anymore. Stop listening to them.

 

[jhawk008]

I knew that FS1 would be caping hard for Jennings right now lol.. Jennings seems like a good guy, he's just as sensitive as he tries to make Rodgers come across as.

 

[Stanger37]

Aaron Rodgers is living rent-free inside Greg Jennings' head.....Hopefully for him he'll learn how to let it go.....



Several former teammates have come to the defense of Rodgers since the article published, including John Kuhn, James Jones, Casey Hayward and even Jeff Janis. Almost universally, former and current teammates have defended Rodgers’ leadership ability – turning Jennings and Finley into the loudest voices in an otherwise empty room.


https://packerswire.usatoday.com/20...ires-back-at-greg-jennings-jermichael-finley/

exactly....but let me know when you hear FS1 and ESPN bring up the part of the article that Kuhn & Co. came out to defend Rodgers and say Jennings and Finley are just making noises. And those sources, FS1 and ESPN, is where 99% of casual sport fans, the loud guys at the bar, get their info from.

And I assume if they did meander their way to packerswire.usatoday.com, they'd just call then out for being bias towards the Packers so of course they're going to say positive things.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

exactly....but let me know when you hear FS1 and ESPN bring up the part of the article that Kuhn & Co. came out to defend Rodgers and say Jennings and Finley are just making noises. And those sources, FS1 and ESPN, is where 99% of casual sport fans, the loud guys at the bar, get their info from.

And I assume if they did meander their way to packerswire.usatoday.com, they'd just call then out for being bias towards the Packers so of course they're going to say positive things.

I imagine Aaron's response will get some coverage.....And I imagine the casual sports fan will quickly move on to something else. This is fodder for PackerHaters, and I really don't care what they think.....They're mostly jealous of Green Bay anyway.

 

[Do7]

I think it is funny that Jennings can go on FS1 shows all offseason and spew his headlines. They build up this plot line that "wow, this young guy coming in with no HC experience is going to try and get through to Rodgers who is at the back 9 of his career. He better hope Rodgers plays well or he'll be done for" During MarchMadness, the beginning of baseball, end of NBA/NHL (not that they mention hockey) there are so many other sports and stories they could talk about. There is always what feels like a segment a week about Rodgers and the Packers.

And now that Rodgers finally responds to what feels like 6 months of getting called out by the media. On whatever Cris Carter's show is this morning, the story today was how "Rodgers could have come out and been a better leader with his comments. He didn't have to take shots at Jennings and Finley. I think that is a poor image. He should be building relationships with his new WRs and coaching staff, not taking shots at his old teammates"

That right there is why listening to these shows and then forming your opinion is such hogwash. Rodgers gets slammed any chance they can take and doesn't make a peep. As soon as he mentions something about their boy on FS1 in Jennings, who like Rodgers said, if he isn't talking about Rodgers, when else do people listen to him? They still have a gripe with him and say he could have said it better.

In my opinion. I like how he called both of them irrelevant. I like the shots he took, because Rodgers name coming out of their mouth is honestly the only time you hear from those players. They make a lot of noise and the new WRs need to hear that they ARE irrelevant. DONT listen to them. Media doesn't report the Jordy Nelson's, James Jones, John Kuhn. Media talks about the negative and THEY spew more bad ideas in the young WRs minds than Rodgers comments do.

Sadly I feel this was like a bait to get Aaron to say something, and now they're going to spin this to incriminate him more. The only people that can REALLY stop this are guys like Jordy, Cobb, James Jones, etc. But no one is going to acknowledge the people that defended Aaron. Stephen A and Max are the only two that probably will. Skip and Colin aren't. We all know how Skip is, and when Colin is presented with facts and what not he'll try to sweep it under the rug.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If the Packers turn a blind eye to Jennings after Packer life and he is somehow inducted into the Packer HOF, which he just might be, I envision a picture of him in the PHOF looking something like this.

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[Do7]

If the Packers turn a blind eye to Jennings after Packer life and he is somehow inducted into the Packer HOF, which he just might be, I envision a picture of him in the PHOF looking something like this.

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No way in hell he makes the PHOF. That ship has sailed. And besides there are plenty other worthy people anyways.

 

[PackAttack12]

Rodgers put Jennings and Finley in a body bag. I love it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't put a great deal of faith in "unnamed sources".....If you want to step up and take a shot at someone, put your name to it. Otherwise, this just sounds like bitter sniping from ex-players with an ax to grind.

Agreed and I have unnamed sources that tell me these people are spineless chickensh*ts.

 

[longtimefan]

That's a reasonable response and way to look at it.



Don't get me wrong, the front office has allowed the roster lacking overall talent with Rodgers covering up for it in the past but that doesn't mean he should be involved in personnel decisions by any means.



I don't doubt there are posters around here that have connections to 1265 although FrozenTakesInGB is the only member that has proven to be spot on with his inside information.

In addition to know for a fact what happened during a phone call between Murphy and Rodgers someone would have had to sit next to either of them with the other one being put on speaker.



There's no doubt McCarthy and the coaching staff deserve credit for developing Rodgers into an elite quarterback but that doesn't mean he gets it though.



Abbrederis announced his retirement in January 2018.



The Packers didn't hire Van Pelt this offseason, he's still the quarterbacks coach in Cincinnati.



Just for the record, Jennings hasn't been inducted into the Packers HOF.

LOL..

I posted many things proven to be right. But that's okay..

 

[Do7]

Matt Haselback was on first take today and sided with Rodgers. He even brought up the people on social media that were former teammates that sounded off on the article today. Major props to him!

 

[jhawk008]

Undisputed stood up for Jennings, and attacked Rodgers which wasn't that big of a surprise with Skip there. He thinks that everything is about him from either Lebron or Rodgers

 

[gbgary]

I don't put a great deal of faith in "unnamed sources".....If you want to step up and take a shot at someone, put your name to it. Otherwise, this just sounds like bitter sniping from ex-players with an ax to grind.

neither did richard nixon.
most of the players were named. it was the former coaches and front office people mentioned that were unnamed.

 

[gbgary]

Let's at least give him the benefit of the doubt before we start blaming him for ******** up the team. The new coach barely has a day under his belt.
That said, I do hope that Rodgers takes some of this criticism to heart and maybe makes an attempt to be a little more positive as a teammate.

totally agree. there's a long road ahead.

 

[gbgary]

it's funny...only the rodgers criticism is being questioned. was the article only 2/3 inaccurate?

 

[InGuteWeTrust]

Aaron has said his feelings on this and I think he speaks for many. I am done with this story and will not dignify Dunne and the articles contents further with any further comment on it.

I also agree with Aaron that Greg Jennings feelings on the state of the Packers or his feelings on Aaron are irrelevant at this point.

On Greg Jennings and the Packers Hall of Fame; I 100% believe he should be inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame at some point. He is in the Top 12 best WR's ever to play for the Packers and when I go to the Hall of Fame I expect to see the elite of elite in Packers history and I believe Greg is that.

Ty Cobb was a complete disaster as a person. I still want to view him in Cooperstown when I go there.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

neither did richard nixon.
most of the players were named. it was the former coaches and front office people mentioned that were unnamed.

and you know that how? Because someone, other than the actual source told you that?

This is why "hearsay" is not allowed in a courtroom. I realize that Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers are not in a courtroom, but if you want to put a player or his teams reputation on trial, you aren't going to impress me with "he said, she said, unnamed sources" and parading the same few disgruntled ex-players in front of a microphone to rehash their tired stories of their own take on things.

That said, I don't have my head in the sand either, there is obviously some dysfunction going on, but I don't believe its as bad as some in the media or a few ex-players/coaches want people to believe.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

neither did richard nixon.
most of the players were named. it was the former coaches and front office people mentioned that were unnamed.

The only two players who I heard named that were slamming Rodgers were Jennings & Finley.....No secret they were both bitter about how they left Green Bay, particularly Jennings.

If there's a good reason why I'd give more credence to Jennings than I would to James Jones, Kuhn, Heyward or Janis, I haven't thought of it.....

 

[pacmaniac]

That ridiculous throw to Jared Cook in the playoffs in 2017? Drawn up in the huddle.

Of course. MM called a run up the middle, and was hoping we'd win in overtime.

Many times, they felt as though they knew more about their position than their own coach.

Well yeah, you had Edgar Bennett a former RB as the WR coach.

As defenders, we used to always talk about it. It's like, 'We whupped their *** today in camp. Are they going to finally run to us? Respect us?'

Respect the D? How can they say that with a straight face?

He would routinely deny outside interview opportunities for assistants if they were under contract

Was Joe Philbin under contract when he left for the Dolphins?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Maybe this was mentioned elsewhere, but for those posters who kept insisting Aaron Rodgers knee was just fine after the brace came off.....

Rodgers said on ESPN Milwaukee that he had a tibial plateau fracture and an MCL sprain. "My two bones that come together on the outside made an indent fracture. The good thing was it’s not super weight bearing but there’s definitely some moves that affected it."

 

[longtimefan]

Maybe this was mentioned elsewhere, but for those posters who kept insisting Aaron Rodgers knee was just fine after the brace came off.....

Rodgers said on ESPN Milwaukee that he had a tibial plateau fracture and an MCL sprain. "My two bones that come together on the outside made an indent fracture. The good thing was it’s not super weight bearing but there’s definitely some moves that affected it."

I was one that thought it was ok.. The brace must came off when the sprain healed

 

[gbgary]

and you know that how? Because someone, other than the actual source told you that?

That said, I don't have my head in the sand either, there is obviously some dysfunction going on, but I don't believe its as bad as some in the media or a few ex-players/coaches want people to believe.

huh? because dunne didn't associate names with the unnamed players, coaches, and front office people he referenced.
between the 3 of them the thompson/mccarthy/rodgers dysfunction gave us 6-9-1 last year. that's as bad as i'd ever want to see it.

 

[gbgary]

The only two players who I heard named that were slamming Rodgers were Jennings & Finley.....No secret they were both bitter about how they left Green Bay, particularly Jennings.

If there's a good reason why I'd give more credence to Jennings than I would to James Jones, Kuhn, Heyward or Janis, I haven't thought of it.....

dujuan harris was named. janis' quotes pretty much agreed with how the article presented his situation.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

huh? because dunne didn't associate names with the unnamed players, coaches, and front office people he referenced.
between the 3 of them the thompson/mccarthy/rodgers dysfunction gave us 6-9-1 last year. that's as bad as i'd ever want to see it.

Right and some can continue to blame the past 2 seasons strictly on the supposed issues between MM and AR. Meanwhile, all the players named talking about the issues, were on the Packers when they had pretty successful seasons.

Lets not talk about Rodgers availability in 2017, his knee injury and playing most of the year injured in 2018 or most of the terrible personnel decisions TT made over the last 5 or so years. Forget about how lousy of a defense Capers and TT put on the field. None of that matters.

Yup, its much more interesting if we make a soap opera out of it, play up the drama and steer clear of evaluating other aspects of a team struggling on the field.