What do you REALLY think Rodgers would garner in a trade?

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Rodgers signed a huge contract making him the highest paid player in the NFL a season ago. That action should have signaled to the team he was committed for the length of the contract without the "need" for any extraneous antics. He could've insisted on a shorter contract if he felt that retirement was an immanent option. He's had his so-called darkness retreat and is still waffling about his desires. I don't expect anything less from him but Gute is probably sick of his behavior.
Bingo and spot on!

The mistake that the Packers made and maybe they tried, but it just wasn't something Rodgers would agree to, was making most of his salary being tied to him being on the roster on Sept. 1st. A few have said that "a 39 year old QB should be given enough time to decide if he wants to play." I wouldn't have had much of a problem with that, as long as the Packers weren't obligated to pay the guy, if he decides not to play. Seems fair, if one side can decommit to a contract that they signed, that the other side should be able to as well. Then again, I don't like guaranteed money when it comes to any player, I think it has ruined the game to some extent.

Lessons learned, I just hope that when Love is in the back half of his career, he doesn't do what the 2 guys before him did.
 

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Gute may be sick of it, but Gute also likely feels it was worth it to take the chance, hence the new contract. If was really sick of, he would have sent him packing last year and dealt with the aftermath. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know QB's at 40 or approaching 40, are near the end, the next season is never a given. Gute knows that. He's not stupid. He knew it when he gave him the new contract. Whatever there reasons where, that's what they put forth and signed.

he's just as much involved in this situation as the QB everyone loves to hate.

and if Love makes it 2 decades in this league, I can guess he's going to try and maximize his playing time and money in his bank account like all the rest.
 
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Gute may be sick of it, but Gute also likely feels it was worth it to take the chance, hence the new contract. If was really sick of, he would have sent him packing last year and dealt with the aftermath. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know QB's at 40 or approaching 40, are near the end, the next season is never a given. Gute knows that. He's not stupid. He knew it when he gave him the new contract. Whatever there reasons where, that's what they put forth and signed.

he's just as much involved in this situation as the QB everyone loves to hate.

and if Love makes it 2 decades in this league, I can guess he's going to try and maximize his playing time and money in his bank account like all the rest.

I don't think Gute would have ever or will ever publically allow the image that he stuck it to Rodgers - that's job suicide, unless Love would prove to be the second coming and then some of Aaron Rodgers.

FTR I am done with the Rodgers carousel but am FAR from hating the man. Someone can be completely over circumstances which surround someone and still freaking adore them even.
 

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I don't think Gute would have ever or will ever publically allow the image that he stuck it to Rodgers - that's job suicide, unless Love would prove to be the second coming and then some of Aaron Rodgers.

FTR I am done with the Rodgers carousel but am FAR from hating the man. Someone can be completely over circumstances which surround someone and still freaking adore them even.
I'm not on a carousel, I'm cheering for GB regardless, and I'll know soon enough. Gute doesn't have to publicly stick it to Rodgers to change the situation and he didn't have to cave and give that big of money at that moment to a QB who was still under contract. There are reasons Gute helped create this situation we're in right now. It's not all the QB.
 
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I'm not on a carousel, I'm cheering for GB regardless, and I'll know soon enough. Gute doesn't have to publicly stick it to Rodgers to change the situation and he didn't have to cave and give that big of money at that moment to a QB who was still under contract. There are reasons Gute helped create this situation we're in right now. It's not all the QB.

Oh heavens 100% this is not on any one shoulders for sure. We stand hand in hand emphatically there.
 
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I recall Rodgers saying that his contract was a 1yr, then a 2yr, then a 1yr when the contrac happened. I took that to Mean there is verbiage that gives some freedom of making decisions or uncertainty almost Year to year. I remember him saying it because I thought a guaranteed was a guaranteed and it didn’t make sense we’d be going year to year.
So both were very aware that their marriage together could end very soon, even with all that guaranteed.

With that being said. I still think it’s fair to let the guy make his decision and allow the two parties some time to hash it out. We have a responsibility as fans to give him space and let happen. I understand it’s in our nature to want instant potatoes. Imo it’s almost always prudent to give people benefit of doubt and I learned that late in life.
Justice is always best served when prudence is its side dish.

In the past the vast majority of players and teams have bent some to make it work. Even IF the Packers don’t want him back, they stand to lose lots of $$ or draft resources if it gets ugly. Imo, Rodgers is also at risk of a long term PR nightmare, which possibly even equates to tons of lost money if he had thoughts of going into the booth. Not to mention how he could severely disenfranchise his own supporters. Imo he’s stubborn, but he’s not a dummy either.

This will all “Buff Out”

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I find it different than the rumors of him coming back to Green Bay that the Jets are not signing Carr - and Saints are. Do the Jets know something different than Snoops or the claims out there?

I find it very hard to imagine Jets don't get Carr if they knew Rodgers wasn't an option...unless they know Lamar is not staying with Ravens and they fully expect to be the tag and trade partner?

There is not a single other veteran QB out there that I feel the Jets would want except those three.
 

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Almost 6 hours after your post... New Orleans is signing Derek Carr. The dominoes have started to fall, excited for the next one. ;)
Must be false news. Teams are all shut down right now, nothing happens until the league year starts and Aaron Rodgers makes his decision! I heard it on FOX News! :rolleyes:

The Saints got a good QB and that is good news for the Packers, if they want to trade Rodgers, since I doubt the Saints were on their list of teams to send him to. The Packers asking price for Rodgers just went up!
 
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FTR I am done with the Rodgers carousel but am FAR from hating the man.
I laugh at how some people think that disliking someone's action means you hate them. I love what Aaron Rodgers has done as a Packer, but I really dislike the way he has conducted himself over the last 3 years. Neither means I love or hate the guy. Some people just think and hope that it casts an ugly shadow on someone, if they insist that people who don't agree with Rodgers hate him. Sadly, strawman arguments are some peoples only go to.
 
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I find it different than the rumors of him coming back to Green Bay that the Jets are not signing Carr - and Saints are. Do the Jets know something different than Snoops or the claims out there?

I find it very hard to imagine Jets don't get Carr if they knew Rodgers wasn't an option...unless they know Lamar is not staying with Ravens and they fully expect to be the tag and trade partner?

There is not a single other veteran QB out there that I feel the Jets would want except those three.
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I don’t think Baltimore let’s Lamar go, but that’s just my guess. I also have a hard time seeing Aaron playing for an East Coast team, even though they are the logical choices. Obviously he can do anything he wants, its just such a cultural change.
 
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It’s fun playing detective. I like it.
I don’t think Baltimore let’s Lamar go, but that’s just my guess. I also have a hard time seeing Aaron playing for an East Coast team, even though they are the logical choices. Obviously he can do anything he wants, its just such a cultural change.

To be fair Aaron is an enigma of some proportion that doesn't fit many cultural places entirely - Green Bay included.
 

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It’s fun playing detective. I like it.
I don’t think Baltimore let’s Lamar go, but that’s just my guess. I also have a hard time seeing Aaron playing for an East Coast team, even though they are the logical choices. Obviously he can do anything he wants, its just such a cultural change.

What about the Bucs?
 

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I find it different than the rumors of him coming back to Green Bay that the Jets are not signing Carr - and Saints are. Do the Jets know something different than Snoops or the claims out there?

I find it very hard to imagine Jets don't get Carr if they knew Rodgers wasn't an option...unless they know Lamar is not staying with Ravens and they fully expect to be the tag and trade partner?

There is not a single other veteran QB out there that I feel the Jets would want except those three.

Do you think Carr wanted to go to the Jets and live in NYC? To me he seems like much more of a NOLA type dude
 
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To be fair Aaron is an enigma of some proportion that doesn't fit many cultural places entirely - Green Bay included.
Beautiful. That was one of the nicer derogatory statements it almost sounded like it rolled off the tongue as a compliment. Then as I pondered it became a soft insult. Nicely done Sir!
 
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Beautiful. That was one of the nicer derogatory statements it almost sounded like it rolled off the tongue as a compliment. Then as I pondered it became a soft insult. Nicely done Sir!

I didn't mean it as one. Rodgers has bits of Trump in him, bits of Bernie, bits of that high hippie that drives the van around town....truly an enigma in every positive and negative angle if you ask enough people.
 
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What about the Bucs?
I could see that. I know I’m in a strict minority thinking East Coast is a strange fit. I did live out there for 25 years, so I still have a pulse on the East Coast. Florida is very relaxed and some bikinis strings could be pulled.
He’s actually friends with Tom Brady and it’s possible he could help him facilitate a deal as a Pseudo mediator. Rodgers would at least get advice on if it’s a “fit” or not etc. The Cap situation is dicey in Tampa if I recall correctly. Packers Bucs are like 2 broke people trying to make a financial deal
 
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Except nobody accused tyni of hating Rodgers, It was just a post about 2 guys being responsible for the situation the team and the player find themselves in. I think they both deal with it better than many on the outside though.
 
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Except nobody accused tyni of hating Rodgers, It was just a post about 2 guys being responsible for the situation the team and the player find themselves in. I think they both deal with it better than many on the outside though.

Concur - just for records sake I wasn't meaning anyone directly was claiming I specifically hated Rodgers.
 

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Carr deal (if true) would seem to be good news to us. Leaves our primary suitor (presumably) still on the table, and one of the top QBs on the market is now taken off of it. I very much doubt the Saints were any serious consideration for a Rodgers deal either. So he probably just got a bit more expensive if he is to be traded.
 

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Must be false news. Teams are all shut down right now, nothing happens until the league year starts and Aaron Rodgers makes his decision! I heard it on FOX News! :rolleyes:

The Saints got a good QB and that is good news for the Packers, if they want to trade Rodgers, since I doubt the Saints were on their list of teams to send him to. The Packers asking price for Rodgers just went up!
This doesn't change that the post he was referencing was made long before this reported signing.
 

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This doesn't change that the post he was referencing was made long before this reported signing.
Nor does it change my opinion that things are being done behind the scenes by many, if not all teams. Posters that are insisting that nothing happens until the new league year starts, seem to just be giving yet another excuse for Aaron Rodgers behavior. If Gute and his team haven't been working since the last day of the season, they should be fired. Not knowing what will happen with Aaron Rodgers just complicates their work, in no way does it make it the same or easier.
 
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I firmly believe IF we Trade Rodgers outside of conditional picks there won't be any Day 1 picks involved. IMO Just writing this down as a predictor.
 

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Nor does it change my opinion that things are being done behind the scenes by many, if not all teams. Posters that are insisting that nothing happens until the new league year starts, seem to just be giving yet another excuse for Aaron Rodgers behavior. If Gute and his team haven't been working since the last day of the season, they should be fired. Not knowing what will happen with Aaron Rodgers just complicates their work, in no way does it make it the same or easier.
except AGAIN, nobody has said nothing can happen until the new league year starts. It's been stated by myself and others repeatedly that this is how the league works. They all have plan A thru Z contingencies upon contingencies for players in the draft, FA, trades, cuts, and all combinations in between. And Carr was a free agent. It's not news to any of us they're working this time of year, and it's all that are doing it.
 
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