Week 8: Packers at Rams

[PackAttack12]

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Fantastic news.

 

[HardRightEdge]

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I took a lot of heat, especially from my shadow , for saying we should expect Rodgers to be impaired while wearing a brace for the duration. You cannot expect typical recovery times to apply (1-2 weeks for Grade 1 MCL; 2-4 weeks for a Grade 2 which appears to Rodgers injury) so long as the guy is practicing (even if limited), running around on Sundays, and taking hits.

So, here we are. Week 8. And Rodgers is still skipping Wednesday practice.

You'd think my critics never played sports with an injury, let alone NFL football. Yeah, I do think that. This injury and many others require rest and PT; running around and getting whacked prolongs recovery and may even make it worse.

Credit to Rodgers. He's a gamer.

 

[Title Town USA]

I guess you missed the article which stated Rodgers hopes to play WITHOUT a brace after the bye week...When the brace comes off, you will have to admit you were wrong. But of course, you will probably just have another excuse.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I guess you missed the article which stated Rodgers hopes to play WITHOUT a brace after the bye week...When the brace comes off, you will have to admit you were wrong. But of course, you will probably just have another excuse.

"Another excuse"? So far I have not needed to provide one. You, on the other hand....

Given he's not practicing today I'd say that's highly unlikely. You jumped the gun last time and you're jumping it again. Let's put it this way. So far I'm more right as those who thought 1-2 or 2-4 weeks and he'd be good as gold.

I'm fairly confident in saying you're one of those guys (or is it gals? ) who never played sports with an injury.

PS: You forgot your "disagree" on that last one. Better fix that. And don't forget this one!

 

[gbgary]

Rodgers didn't practice. he needs the practice though...but it's only tuesday.

 

[PackAttack12]

I'll admit that Rodgers not participating in practice today was a slight surprise to me. Either the injury is definitely lingering, or McCarthy is just playing it ultra conservative.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If Rodgers himself and fans expected Rodgers to be 100% by this point, I think they were both fooling themselves. Maybe had Rodgers sat down after the injury and not played he might be. But he has continued to play on that knee, slowing down the recovery time, while putting more stress on it by doing so, especially with some of the shots he has taken. Think it was after the Lions game that he said he had a setback?

My hat off to Rodgers for playing through an injury that may have sidelined many players for weeks, but until I read or hear from the Packers medical staff that he is back to 100%, I'm not going to go off his or Packer fans "hopes".

 

[PackAttack12]

If Rodgers himself and fans expected Rodgers to be 100% by this point, I think they were both fooling themselves. Maybe had Rodgers sat down after the injury and not played he might be. But he has continued to play on that knee, slowing down the recovery time, while putting more stress on it by doing so, especially with some of the shots he has taken. Think it was after the Lions game that he said he had a setback?

My hat off to Rodgers for playing through an injury that may have sidelined many players for weeks, but until I read or hear from the Packers medical staff that he is back to 100%, I'm not going to go off his or Packer fans "hopes".

I couldn't understand many of the media saying that Rodgers should have shut it down until the bye week.

The Packers didn't go undefeated, but they also don't tie the Vikings without Rodgers and they don't beat the 49ers without Rodgers. Not playing him until after the bye week would have potentially resulted in being 2-4 after 6 games. And then you're asking a rusty Aaron Rodgers to go out and be competitive against the Rams and Patriots. Would have probably been staring 2-6 in the face.

I commend Rodgers for playing through the injury, but he knew good and well the only way that this season would be salvageable was to try toughing it out.

 

[C-Lee]

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Not even sure if we beat Buffalo without Rodgers. 4 out of the next 5 games are on the road, it is one of the most brutal stretches I have seen in a long time for the Packers:

@ Rams
@ Patriots
Dolphins
@ Seahawks
@ Vikings

Packers might be "lucky" to be 5-5-1 coming out of that stretch, will pretty much put them on "must win games" when they finish 3 out of 5 at home:

Cardinals
Falcons
@ Bears
@ Jets
Lions

 

[HardRightEdge]

I couldn't understand many of the media saying that Rodgers should have shut it down until the bye week.

The Packers didn't go undefeated, but they also don't tie the Vikings without Rodgers and they don't beat the 49ers without Rodgers. Not playing him until after the bye week would have potentially resulted in being 2-4 after 6 games. And then you're asking a rusty Aaron Rodgers to go out and be competitive against the Rams and Patriots. Would have probably been staring 2-6 in the face.

I commend Rodgers for playing through the injury, but he knew good and well the only way that this season would be salvageable was to try toughing it out.

You'd think this would have been obvious, but I guess it isn't.

 

[Title Town USA]

"Another excuse"? So far I have not needed to provide one. You, on the other hand....

Given he's not practicing today I'd say that's highly unlikely. You jumped the gun last time and you're jumping it again. Let's put it this way. So far I'm more right as those who thought 1-2 or 2-4 weeks and he'd be good as gold.

I'm fairly confident in saying you're one of those guys (or is it gals? ) who never played sports with an injury.

PS: You forgot your "disagree" on that last one. Better fix that. And don't forget this one!

You were already proven wrong when Rodgers sprinted out of the tunnel looking much healthier against the Bills. If the knee hadn't improved, we wouldn't have seen the improved mobility that we have. Expect results to increase even more after the bye week.

On a side note, are you okay? I'm genuinely concerned for your well-being...lol

 

[PackAttack12]

Per Ryan Wood, Rodgers said it's premature to know whether he can play without the knee brace this Sunday, though that would be his preference. According to Rodgers, if the knee is "100 percent healed", he said he won't wear the brace.

For Rodgers himself to even hint that there's a possibility to be 100% healed highly suggests that the knee has made a ton of progress over the past several weeks. Anyone who's watched the games can tell he's had more mobility with each game played.

Regardless, encouraging news.

 

[sschind]

Sadly, this is quite accurate. Took all time greatness from Aaron Rodgers in two games, and a missed FG in overtime of the Minnesota game to get to this point.

If you can say "if not for the Clay penalty", you can certainly say if not for the missed FG.

Bottom line, this team has failed to play up to its full capability, for whatever reason. THAT will need to change if it hopes to beat the Rams on Sunday afternoon. There isn't a football game the Packers have played all season long that would have been good enough to beat the Rams on their field, but the potential to do so is there.

I certainly hope you are right about that being the problem.

 

[sschind]

The Vikings wouldn't have had a chance at a game winning field goal without the ridiculous call on Matthews though.

Yeah but didn't he miss a FG before that one.

 

[Zartan]

Prediction...

Pack WIN in a blowout. 28-7

 

[sschind]

The Packers needed all time heroics from Aaron Rodgers to barely take down the juggernaut known as the San Francisco 49ers at Lambeau Field. Meanwhile, the Rams beat the brakes off of the exact same team on the road yesterday.

See the problem?

The Packers were pretty bad for most of that game. The offense was hit or miss. Far from a well oiled machine. And the defense was absolutely atrocious in the 1st half. Really no other way to put it.

So yes. If we play like we did a week ago against the Rams, we're going to get spanked.

Yes, I see the problem. The problem is you are falling into the A beat B and B beat C therefor A must beat C trap. Another problem is you clarifying your statement that the Rams will win by adding an IF. Yes, IF they play like they did last week they may very well get spanked but how they played last week has no bearing on how they will play against the Rams. If the Rams play like we did last week we just might spank them.

 

[sschind]

Is this our stiffest test of the year so far? Absolutely. Will I be a little surprised if we beat them in their house? Yes. As the saying goes "that's why you play the game." We have not played up to our potential very often this season but that doesn't mean Sunday will be a dud. 2 weeks to prepare will help. Having AR12 always helps. I am hopeful we can be close to healthy come kick and if so, I think we have a decent shot of stealing one. Yes, the Rams are all kinds of potent. They are

Cramps. Never rule out cramps my friend! Hahaha. Yeah, he is going to be a handful and for that matter the entire offense is. Goff is playing extremely well right now completing 70% of his throws and it's not like he's dinking and dunking. Cooks is a matchup problem but I think a healthy Jaire can run with him. Woods is one of the most underrated WR in the league. He isn't flashy but the guy produces when given a chance. He could very easily be the Rams Mohammed Sanu in this game and we all know that's not good. This Rams team looks similar to the Seahags of seasons past as they are paying their most important player (QB) beans which allows them flexibility to go out and make a ton of splash signings. The D is really, really stout up front. Sue and Donald get most of the credit and for good reason. Michael Brockers is a guy that can also wreck a gameplan. I do think we can exploit their secondary if we can give AR enough time. They have playmakers in the backend but they gamble a lot. I am very curious to see how Philbin and Mike plan on attacking this unit coming off the bye. I know I am not alone in saying I hope to see some new wrinkles in the offensive attack this week. Get Jimmy involved early and often. Let Tae make plays in space. Utilize AJones as much as possible as he is the most explosive guy in the backfield. We cannot attack this Rams D with the same old same old vanilla flavored recipe. I don't want to default to the old "If you have 12, you have a chance" argument but it's the truth. We will need to force at least one KEY turnover and make some sort of splash play in the ST dept. The margin for error is small but I don't believe for a moment a loss is a foregone conclusion. Play hard, play fast and play to win. G P G !!!

Can cramps last 3 hours? My ex wife used to say so but I think they were different cramps.

 

[Packer96]

Rodgers has one for the ages, Pack, 48-Rams 47
OR
Suh has a cheap shot in the 1st qtr. Rodgers out for the year, Rams 48, Pack 10. MM fired before Xmas.

 

[HardRightEdge]

You were already proven wrong when Rodgers sprinted out of the tunnel looking much healthier against the Bills. If the knee hadn't improved, we wouldn't have seen the improved mobility that we have. Expect results to increase even more after the bye week.

On a side note, are you okay? I'm genuinely concerned for your well-being...lol

If you didn't turn off the TV after they run out of the tunnel you might learn something.

 

[gopkrs]

I don't see how there can be any doubt that Rodgers has been affected by his injury all year long. It has even affected his accuracy. Maybe we will have a big enough of a lead to pull him at the end of the 3rd quarter and let him get some more...probably needed rest.

 

[PackAttack12]

Yes, I see the problem. The problem is you are falling into the A beat B and B beat C therefor A must beat C trap. Another problem is you clarifying your statement that the Rams will win by adding an IF. Yes, IF they play like they did last week they may very well get spanked but how they played last week has no bearing on how they will play against the Rams. If the Rams play like we did last week we just might spank them.

The Rams are undefeated and the Packers have underachieved. We have to operate under the assumption that the Rams will be at their best.

Don’t mistake my position, I think the Packers have a great shot. You must have glossed over all of the posts where I detailed how good of a shot the Packers have. But it’s going to take more than an average game to get the job done.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I don't see how there can be any doubt that Rodgers has been affected by his injury all year long. It has even affected his accuracy.

I can't say I've noticed any particular accuracy issues. What I do notice is the reduced mobility has led to more hits and throw aways.

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

Rodgers was definitely wincing in pain this last game when that one sack occurred where the defender caught him from behind and put weight on his legs. Pretty likely that one prevented him from getting to complete recovery after the bye.

 

[PackAttack12]

Again though, are we denying that his mobility hasn’t improved since the Minnesota game? I guess I have been watching a different quarterback. I mean the first two games after the injury, he hardly took a single snap from under center because of the injury. Now we are seeing a much more balanced mix of shotgun versus under center.

Just using the eye test, he has been more mobile by the game. Maybe I’m missing something.

It’s bothered him obviously, but the eye test for me definitely suggests improvement.