Week 5 Packers In Jerruh World

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With the Cowboys losing most of those players in free agency it would be a smarter move to fire their general manager. Might be a tricky proposition convincing Jerry to fire himself though. ;)

As a Packer Fan, I like Jerry just where he is......I think he is just the idiot you need to keep the Cowboys from being relevant every year. ;)
 

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As I expected, the Dallas O-Line is nowhere near as good after losing 2 starters from last year’s team. I think this team is well on it’s way to a 7-9 season.
a 7-9 would put them in a good spot to get yet another top player. the rich get richer. i'd rather they win their division and go out in the first round.
 
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a 7-9 would put them in a good spot to get yet another top player. the rich get richer

The Cowboys finishing 7-9 would mean they aren't one of the most talented teams in the league. Therefore I wouldn't mind them getting to draft in the middle of the first round.
 

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a 7-9 would put them in a good spot to get yet another top player. the rich get richer. i'd rather they win their division and go out in the first round.
7-9 record generally gets you a draft pick from 12-15 spot. That’s better than what we’ll get but it’s not likely to yield an elite player.
 
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7-9 record generally gets you a draft pick from 12-15 spot. That’s better than what we’ll get but it’s not likely to yield an elite player.

The chances are definitely higher to draft an elite player in the middle of the first round than close to the end of it. Nevertheless I prefer the Packers to select 32nd.
 

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The Cowboys finishing 7-9 would mean they aren't one of the most talented teams in the league. Therefore I wouldn't mind them getting to draft in the middle of the first round.
but you KNOW they are. and it doesn't mean that at all. unlucky could get you 7-9, no elliott for 6 games could get you 7-9, a couple of key injuries could get you 7-9.
 
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but you KNOW they are. and it doesn't mean that at all. unlucky could get you 7-9, no elliott for 6 games could get you 7-9, a couple of key injuries could get you 7-9.

There's no reason to believe that the Cowboys are currently one of the most talented teams in the league. They suffered some key losses on the offensive line and in the secondary this offseason and definitely seem to have regressed compared to last season.
 

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There's no reason to believe that the Cowboys are currently one of the most talented teams in the league. They suffered some key losses on the offensive line and in the secondary this offseason and definitely seem to have regressed compared to last season.
they did lose a couple of guys in the o-line but they swapped a couple of bad DBs for a couple of inexperienced rookie DBs. they're actually better back there than last year believer it or not. they do have a tougher schedule this year than last. that will impact their record. but there isn't a person out there that doesn't think dal isn't talented.
 
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they did lose a couple of guys in the o-line but they swapped a couple of bad DBs for a couple of inexperienced rookie DBs. they're actually better back there than last year believer it or not. they do have a tougher schedule this year than last. that will impact their record. but there isn't a person out there that doesn't think dal isn't talented.

The Cowboys currently rank 26th in points allowed after finishing in fifth last season. I have no idea why anyone would consider their defense to be improved over the 2016 squad. They definitely have some talented players but I don't consider them one of the favorites to win the NFC.
 

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The Cowboys currently rank 26th in points allowed after finishing in fifth last season. I have no idea why anyone would consider their defense to be improved over the 2016 squad. They definitely have some talented players but I don't consider them one of the favorites to win the NFC.
but that's what we were talking about...talent...not rankings. i said a 7-9 record would just get them another talented player and i'd prefer that not to happen.
 
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but that's what we were talking about...talent...not rankings. i said a 7-9 record would just get them another talented player and i'd prefer that not to happen.

In that case you might want to contact the league office and ask them to forfeit the Cowboys draft picks for next year.
 

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but that's what we were talking about...talent...not rankings. i said a 7-9 record would just get them another talented player and i'd prefer that not to happen.

So you would prefer for them to be 12-4 and in the PO?

I'm really not sure what your talking about
 
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in respect to the draft would you rather them be 7-9 or win their division and go out in the first round of the playoffs?

I really don't care about the draft position teams end up in next April during the season.
 

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I'd rather have the Cowboys not win another game all year and draft #1 while we're drafting #32.

Like I'm still not sure what the line of logic being used is. Like if this was the Packers is it would you rather have us lose in the NFCCG or would you rather sit Rodgers the rest of the year and draft top 10 type of logic?
 

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As Captain pointed out, as long as the Packers are sitting at #32 in the draft, I don't worry too much about the other 31 teams and when they pick or who they pick. I look at some of the teams who have been picking top 10 consistently and they can't seem to make it work.

Only time I really "pull for" another team to get a high pick in the draft is if the Packers hold the rights to it and it's been a long time since I can remember that happening.
 

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I'd rather have the Cowboys not win another game all year and draft #1 while we're drafting #32.

Like I'm still not sure what the line of logic being used is. Like if this was the Packers is it would you rather have us lose in the NFCCG or would you rather sit Rodgers the rest of the year and draft top 10 type of logic?
Lol, remember last year when we were 4-6? There were actually inferences here that they hoped for 4-12 to get a top draft slot.
 

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Lol, remember last year when we were 4-6? There were actually inferences here that they hoped for 4-12 to get a top draft slot.

Ughhh. Yeah I member that.

My bad.

Should've membered where I was
 

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As Captain pointed out, as long as the Packers are sitting at #32

of course...but i wasn't discussing where the Packers pick.

Like I'm still not sure what the line of logic being used is.

my comment was about where the cowboys draft at...not the Packers. i never mentioned the Packers. PikeBadger thought the boys would finish at 7-9. i said i'd rather them win their division and lose in the first round rather than at 7-9 as they'd have yet another real good draft pick. i don't want the boys getting stronger with no-brainer type picks. i don't understand why this is eluding everyone.
 
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PikeBadger thought the boys would finish at 7-9. i said i'd rather them win their division and lose in the first round rather than at 7-9 as they'd have yet another real good draft pick. i don't want the boys getting stronger with no-brainer type picks. i don't understand why this is eluding everyone.

On the other hand you don't understand that the Cowboys winning their division would mean they're already more talented than a 7-9 team. In addition there aren't any no-brainer selections even in the middle of the first round.
 
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