Week 2 - Time To Drop The Hammer On The Overrated Vikes

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Not having Aaron Jones is going to hurt us a lot. Jamaal is a good pass blocker, but not so much as a runner.

Gonna be a really tough game.
 

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As a point of correction. Morris didn't "just fumble" It was a "forced fumble" by Linval Joseph. As was Dalvin Cooks. His was "punched out" by the guy tackling him.

As to the O-line being weaker? Our starting center didn't play week one. So, the line didn't get weaker from last week, it just didn't get stronger.

I didn't say the line got weaker. I just said it's weak.

Getting a fumble and recovery it on the one when the opposition is about to score is lucky, even though fumbles are usually "forced." Good play by Joseph, but the reality is that 49 times out of 50, that situation is resulting in a touchdown.
 

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At the very top, first thread under Sticky Threads.

Yeah, from my view when I got to the main forum page, there is nothing about the Vikings under the Sticky Threads header. The first thing I see is the shout box archive. I don't know why. I thought it was weird that nothing was out there. I'm not sure why I can't see it.
 

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Yeah, from my view when I got to the main forum page, there is nothing about the Vikings under the Sticky Threads header. The first thing I see is the shout box archive. I don't know why. I thought it was weird that nothing was out there. I'm not sure why I can't see it.
I'll take care of it.
 
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This will be a much bigger test for our much improved secondary, who just last Sunday held Trubisky to pultry yardage in the air.
Again, Kirk Cousins is hands down a better QB than Trubisky and has a better arsenal at his disposal with Rudolph, Theilin and Diggs.
This will not be an easy game.
I’ve noticed Aaron tends to play better when he’s not expected to or he’s the underdog. Particularly if he’s banged up or has been counted out for all practical purposes. This is his type of role and he has the home crowd to boot.
Packers 26 Vikings 24
 

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Thanks Poppa. I have Carolinafan on ignore so that explains why the thread was invisible.
It would be nice if there was a work around that, but i'm not sure how. I've missed some topics for that reason too. when they gave me a link to the thread, I could click and read no problems. But thru the forum because it was created by an ignored member, it was all invisible to me. and though it's a burden being right all the time, I do still like reading what most of you have to say on a topic.
 

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What I want to know is what did New Orleans and Philly figure out about the Vikings defense? Over the second half of the saints game and the Philly game the Vikings defense looked like the Packers defense from last year. Saints went 5 drives with 3 TDS and fg in the 2nd half. Eagles scored on 5 of their 1st 7 drives. Over 12 drives the Vikings defense gave up 55 points (that doesn't count the pick 6 philly had). Was it just a fluke or is there something there?
 

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Agreed. The Viking defense, which was awesome most of the year, faded in the playoffs. They were opportunistic against the 49ers, but weren't dominant. They might be overrated, but that could also be true of the Pack? Guess, we'll see!
 

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Packers 17 Vikings 14.

Im predicting a defensive struggle. Clark, Daniels, and wilkerson will dominate.

Cousins will take a greater pounding than your average redneck kentucky family reunion.
 
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Cousins is an upgrade over CK in my eyes and by a fair margin.

While that is true taking a look at Keenum's entire career there's no reason to believe Cousins will be more efficient than CK was in 2018.

especially when Jones comes back. Lacy may have been nice, but he wasn't a threat to bust one at any time like Jones is. If his pass blocking is close to what Williams has been, look out. One more poison to pick from

I highly doubt Jones will ever be as good as Williams in pass protection.

If you look into Aaron Rodgers' comeback efforts you will see that typically many leads are safe with him. He is below average when it comes to bring the Packers back from a 4th quarter deficit for the win. Granted in some of those failures to get the win he did gain the lead but the defense let him down but if he is going top get all the credit for a comeback win he has to take the blame for the failures as well.

I posted that Rodgers struggling to orchestrate fourth quarter comebacks is a myth several years ago. I'm too lazy to look it up once again. While his record isn't impressive by any means the defense not being able to hold on to a lead or force the game into overtime significantly reduces his winning percentage in those situations. In my opinion it doesn't make any sense blaming him for it.

Whoever wins this game will be a least one game up on the other teams in the division. And, maybe 2 games up on a couple of teams. Yes, it's important.

It's definitely an important game but not a must win by any means.
 
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Williams is about as good as it gets in that department, Jones just has to become adequate so he's not a liability like last year in that situation and this offense becomes even more unpredictable and dangerous with him on the field. I'm hoping for something much better than Montgomery and headed towards Williams in Pass protection from him this year.
 

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It would be nice if there was a work around that, but i'm not sure how. I've missed some topics for that reason too. when they gave me a link to the thread, I could click and read no problems. But thru the forum because it was created by an ignored member, it was all invisible to me. and though it's a burden being right all the time, I do still like reading what most of you have to say on a topic.

As a workaround would it possible to ignore the posts but not the threads started by the person on ignore? I don't know if that can be done or not but it is a thought. It may not even be possible or worth the effort it would take to program it.

Actually I like it. An ignore feature that truly ignores someone. On a bunch of the other forums I am on if you have someone on ignore their threads still show up but when you click on them it brings up a message that says "you can not read this post because you have the user on ignore" What is the point of an ignore feature if the persons threads still show up. Heck, I can not read them on my own its just that the offending ones will post 2 dozen threads in a row or more and fill up a page and the sites only return so many new posts threads.

I can see where it can be an issue with a purely discussion forum such as this but the forums I am talking about are a mix of discussion and for sale items so the for sale items tend to dominate the new posts. The offending posters are big time dealers and post dozens of ads at a time and never take part in any of the discussions.

I don't know if I have any users on their forum on ignore. I think a better function would be the opportunity to place big red X and the caption "warning ******** ahead" banner at the top of the ignored persons posts. As it is I go down the threads and read them and I rarely look at identity of the person posting. I only check if something stands out to me and I want to know "who the heck just said that"
 

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While that is true taking a look at Keenum's entire career there's no reason to believe Cousins will be more efficient than CK was in 2018.



I highly doubt Jones will ever be as good as Williams in pass protection.



I posted that Rodgers struggling to orchestrate fourth quarter comebacks is a myth several years ago. I'm too lazy to look it up once again. While his record isn't impressive by any means the defense not being able to hold on to a lead or force the game into overtime significantly reduces his winning percentage in those situations. In my opinion it doesn't make any sense blaming him for it.



It's definitely an important game but not a must win by any means.
Keenum had a great year, but he was a little like Farve. For every two games he'd win with excellence, he'd make a bone head pass to lose the game and make you say, WTF? I think the Vikes made a good move with Cousins, but the O line will need to protect him.
 
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I don't see favorable winds blowing the Packers' way in this game. ARod and Davante both questionable. The Packers' defense is young. They played great against the Bears in the 2nd half but Cousins, Diggs and Theilen are easily a step above what the Bears have. I expect Cousins to have a good game. The Vikings defense speaks for itself.

It will be close if Rodgers plays, but I think the Vikings take this one 24-20.
 

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But XPack did. Maybe Raptor just got confused on who he was replying to. You know we all look alike to vikings fans.;)

I’ve found it to be reliably true that Vikings fans have an easier time arguing with me if they ignore that I actually say.
 
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