Week 10 Sunday Vs Seahawks (Pregame and after game thread)

[Arod2gjdd]

I sense a rout. We are due for one.

 

[gopkrs]

And now the Packers have lost home field advantage for the playoffs.

Really?

 

[mongoosev]

The lying was bad. But he also got himself put on the reserve COVID list, and had to miss a game they likely would have won had he played. And now the Packers have lost home field advantage for the playoffs. That's quite an achievement. Let's think about that if we have to go back to Arizona or LA in January instead of playing someone in Lambeau.

The lying was bad only if Rod tried to manipulate the organization into thinking he was vaccinated to follow the protocols of those who were vaccinated; otherwise, If the Pack organization knew he wasn't vaccinated then the "lying" doesn't matter since he was not mandated to take any vaccine.

If he was vaccinated he could still have been on that Covid list because everyone on that list is vaccinated.

 

[buckthorn]

The lying was bad only if Rod tried to manipulate the organization into thinking he was vaccinated to follow the protocols of those who were vaccinated; otherwise, If the Pack organization knew he wasn't vaccinated then the "lying" doesn't matter since he was not mandated to take any vaccine.

If he was vaccinated he could still have been on that Covid list because everyone on that list is vaccinated.

By not being vaccinated (and probably going to that party), he was much more at risk for contracting the virus and being forced to sit out for 10 days. Your notion about "lying" is nonsensical. What reason was there for him to not tell the truth except to mislead everyone, including you and me? I'm amazed at the lame excuses people come up with to make this sound like it's all much ado about nothing.

 

[buckthorn]

Really?

Have you looked at the standings? Last week we gained home field over Arizona and were in the driver's seat. Now we're behind.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

it was pretty obvious for everyone to see that Rodgers didn't abide by the rules on several occasions.

For some, his sh*t still doesn't stink. Also, those same people are not going to admit that it was a light or even a fair ruling by the NFL. For it they do, they feel that they are somehow condoning the way the NFL and others have reacted to the actual seriousness of Covid.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm amazed at the lame excuses people come up with to make this sound like it's all much ado about nothing.

They have no choice, what Rodgers did is probably similar to how they have reacted to Covid. Condemning Rodgers for his bad decisions and deceit, is just condemning themselves. Pretty much paralleling what I said above.

 

[Pugger]

The lying was bad only if Rod tried to manipulate the organization into thinking he was vaccinated to follow the protocols of those who were vaccinated; otherwise, If the Pack organization knew he wasn't vaccinated then the "lying" doesn't matter since he was not mandated to take any vaccine.

If he was vaccinated he could still have been on that Covid list because everyone on that list is vaccinated.

I believe both the Packers and NFL knew he was unvaxxed. Didn't he petition the league about the use of alternative therapies for COVID? IMO it was the media who was all bent out of shape about ARod lying to them and thus fans followed suit. He was tested daily before he could even enter the facility at 1265 so he was probably safer to be around than his vaccinated peers until he came down with it, probably at that Halloween party.

 

[gopkrs]

By not being vaccinated (and probably going to that party), he was much more at risk for contracting the virus and being forced to sit out for 10 days. Your notion about "lying" is nonsensical. What reason was there for him to not tell the truth except to mislead everyone, including you and me? I'm amazed at the lame excuses people come up with to make this sound like it's all much ado about nothing.

One reason could possibly be that he did not want to influence others not to take the vax. I agree that the dam media isn't entitled to know everything and really neither is the public. I had zero problems when Sterling Sharpe refused to talk to the media. So much of that is soap opera crap.

 

[buckthorn]

I believe both the Packers and NFL knew he was unvaxxed. Didn't he petition the league about the use of alternative therapies for COVID? IMO it was the media who was all bent out of shape about ARod lying to them and thus fans followed suit.

Maybe they did. I think both the league and the team(s) made a big mistake by not mandating vaccinations. Star players missing games, playing third-and fourth-string QBs... Imagine stars being having to sit out playoff games.

I wouldn't say that fans simply "followed suit". People don't like it when someone feeds them a crock of &$#% with a straight face; could there be a more clear indication of disrespect?

 

[Pugger]

One reason could possibly be that he did not want to influence others not to take the vax. I agree that the dam media isn't entitled to know everything and really neither is the public. I had zero problems when Sterling Sharpe refused to talk to the media. So much of that is soap opera crap.

If you watch that long interview he did a few days after he was placed on the COVID list he told the world he would never tell anyone not to get the shots. He said he was allergic to an ingredient in the Moderna and Pfiser vaccines and was leery of the J&J. Now that he has had COVID he has better immunity to it than those who are vaccinated.

 

[buckthorn]

One reason could possibly be that he did not want to influence others not to take the vax.

I don't buy that.

 

[buckthorn]

If you watch that long interview he did a few days after he was placed on the COVID list he told the world he would never tell anyone not to get the shots. He said he was allergic to an ingredient in the Moderna and Pfiser vaccines and was leery of the J&J. Now that he has had COVID he has better immunity to it than those who are vaccinated.

Nonsense. Having had COVID is not a substitute for getting vaccinated. He was worried about side effects from the vaccines (the allergy thing is not very believable), but was happy to take ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine?! Give me a break.

 

[Voyageur]

Here's the list of QBs I've seen or heard on the radio, for the Packers since I started watching the team. To me, Rodgers is one of the best, but by no means is he "the team." The "team" is the Packers, and players come and go. Some leave on a happy note, others? No so much. Rodgers has chosen to leave with a chip on his shoulders, but my team, the Packers, will tee it up and start play again every Sunday during the season. At least they have for the 73+ years that I've been following the team.

The List (By the way. That's 72 QBs during my time)

1949	Jug Girard (10) / Stan Heath (1) / Jack Jacobs (1)	[29]​
1950	Tobin Rote (12)	[30]​
1951	Tobin Rote (11) / Bobby Thomason (4)	[31]​
1952	Tobin Rote (8) / Babe Parilli (4)	[32]​
1953	Tobin Rote (7) / Babe Parilli (5)	[33]​
1954	Tobin Rote (12)	[34]​
1955	Tobin Rote (12)	[35]​
1956	Tobin Rote (11) / Bart Starr (1)	[36]​
1957	Bart Starr (11) / Babe Parilli (1)	[37]​
1958	Bart Starr (7) / Babe Parilli (4) / Joe Francis (1)	[38]​
1959	Bart Starr (5) / Lamar McHan (7)	[39]​
1960	Bart Starr (8) / Lamar McHan (4)	[40]​
1961	Bart Starr (14)	[41]​
1962	Bart Starr (14)	[42]​
1963	Bart Starr (10) / John Roach (4)	[43]​
1964	Bart Starr (14)	[44]​
1965	Bart Starr (14)	[45]​
1966	Bart Starr (13) / Zeke Bratkowski (1)	[46]​
1967	Bart Starr (12) / Zeke Bratkowski (2)	[47]​
1968	Bart Starr (9) / Zeke Bratkowski (5)	[48]​
1969	Bart Starr (9) / Don Horn (5)	[49]​
1970	Bart Starr (13) / Don Horn (1)	[50]​
1971	Scott Hunter (10) / Bart Starr (3) / Zeke Bratkowski (1)	[51]​
1972	Scott Hunter (14)	[52]​
1973	Jerry Tagge (6) / Scott Hunter (5) / Jim Del Gaizo (3)	[53]​
1974	John Hadl (6) / Jerry Tagge (6) / Jack Concannon (2)	[54]​
1975	John Hadl (13) / Don Milan (1)	[55]​
1976	Lynn ****ey (10) / Carlos Brown (3) / Randy Johnson (1)	[56]​
1977	Lynn ****ey (9) / David Whitehurst (5)	[57]​
1978	David Whitehurst (16)	[58]​
1979	David Whitehurst (13) / Lynn ****ey (3)	[59]​
1980	Lynn ****ey (16)	[60]​
1981	Lynn ****ey (13) / David Whitehurst (3)	[61]​
1982	Lynn ****ey (9)	[62]​
1983	Lynn ****ey (16)	[63]​
1984	Lynn ****ey (15) / Randy Wright (1)	[64]​
1985	Lynn ****ey (10) / Jim Zorn (5) / Randy Wright (1)	[65]​
1986	Randy Wright (16)	[66]​
1987	Randy Wright (7) / Don Majkowski (5) / Alan Risher (3)	[67]​
1988	Don Majkowski (9)/ Randy Wright (7)	[68]​
1989	Don Majkowski (16)	[69]​
1990	Don Majkowski (8) / Anthony Dilweg (7) / Blair Kiel (1)	[70]​
1991	Don Majkowski (8) / Mike Tomczak (7) / Blair Kiel (1)	[71]​
1992	Brett Favre (13) / Don Majkowski (3)	[72]​
1993	Brett Favre (16)	[73]​
1994	Brett Favre (16)	[74]​
1995	Brett Favre (16)	[75]​
1996	Brett Favre (16)	[76]​
1997	Brett Favre (16)	[77]​
1998	Brett Favre (16)	[78]​
1999	Brett Favre (16)	[79]​
2000	Brett Favre (16)	[80]​
2001	Brett Favre (16)	[81]​
2002	Brett Favre (16)	[82]​
2003	Brett Favre (16)	[83]​
2004	Brett Favre (16)	[84]​
2005	Brett Favre (16)	[85]​
2006	Brett Favre (16)	[86]​
2007	Brett Favre (16)	[87]​
2008	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[88]​
2009	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[89]​
2010	Aaron Rodgers (15) / Matt Flynn (1)	[90]​
2011	Aaron Rodgers (15) / Matt Flynn (1)	[91]​
2012	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[92]​
2013	Aaron Rodgers (9) / Matt Flynn (4) / Scott Tolzien (2) / Seneca Wallace (1)	[93]​
2014	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[94]​
2015	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[95]​
2016	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[96]​
2017	Brett Hundley (9) / Aaron Rodgers (7)	[97]​
2018	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[98]​
2019	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[99]​
2020	Aaron Rodgers (16)	[100]​
2021	Aaron Rodgers (8) / Jordan Love (1)

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

One reason could possibly be that he did not want to influence others not to take the vax. I agree that the dam media isn't entitled to know everything and really neither is the public. I had zero problems when Sterling Sharpe refused to talk to the media. So much of that is soap opera crap.

If he didn't want to influence others, to get vaccinated or not get vaccinated, don't you think it would have been better of him just to answer the medias question about his vaccination status with a "I believe that it is a personal decision and I would rather not talk about it." He seemed to be fine telling the media that when he later doubles down on his poor handling of the question by saying "You know, there’s guys on the team who haven’t been vaccinated. I think it’s a personal decision. I’m not gonna judge those guys.” Aaron, I think you just did judge those guys, as well as your teammates that got vaccinated.

Would he have taken some flack for either telling the media that he didn't get vaccinated and the reasons why or simply saying he prefers not to publicly discuss his vax status? Probably, but less than what he is taking now. Further, the brunt of the flack would have taken place in August and diminished quite a bit by the time he was diagnosed with Covid midway through a successful season. That diagnosis would have no doubt stirred up a lot of "I told you so'ers", but not at the level of what he has created now, by initially lying to/deceiving the media and general public.

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[Krabs]

So... is this the Seahags vs Packers thread?

 

[buckthorn]

So... is this the Seahags vs Packers thread?

Rogers' availability is still up in the air. So it's all relevant. It's probably the difference between winning or losing another one with Love @QB.

 

[Mondio]

Lets have another go 'round LOL Can't you guys ever quit?

It's not all relevant. Because they've asked 10 times at least to stop. His availability is up in the air. THAT is relevant, the rest is rehashed opinions over and over and over and over. You're mucking up everything.

Apparently there is a place on here for that sort of stuff, I suggest some of find it and quit taking shots to restart this stuff in every thread. It's getting beyond old.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

So... is this the Seahags vs Packers thread?

Sure is, what did YOU want to discuss? Throw out a relevant topic.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Rogers' availability is still up in the air.

Yes it is. If that "shoulder" keeps bothering him, he may be out this game. Shoulder injuries and how they get treated are such a crap shoot. Wish he hadn't been playing basketball that day and fell so awkwardly, we wouldn't have to talk about his shoulder anymore.

 

[realitybytez]

I don't buy that.

of course you don't. it doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[buckthorn]

of course you don't. it doesn't fit your narrative.

No, because it doesn't make sense. You're saying that I'm prejudiced -- how respectful. I don't need to conjure up a "narrative" to muddy up what was said and done.

What do you have to support your idea that this was his motivation?

 

[mongoosev]

By not being vaccinated (and probably going to that party), he was much more at risk for contracting the virus and being forced to sit out for 10 days. Your notion about "lying" is nonsensical. What reason was there for him to not tell the truth except to mislead everyone, including you and me? I'm amazed at the lame excuses people come up with to make this sound like it's all much ado about nothing.

Once again there was no mandate and it's his body so "lying" is just an objective matter at this point. By calling my argument "nonsensical" is nonsensical which is ironic since there are gray areas that matter on these circumstances and that is where there are different viewpoints.

As for the efficacy, it's another debated topic considering the Covid list is comprised of players that are vaccinated.

His "lying" is pretty much moot at this point since it has no relation to any violations in terms requiring vaccinations.

 

[mongoosev]

I believe both the Packers and NFL knew he was unvaxxed. Didn't he petition the league about the use of alternative therapies for COVID? IMO it was the media who was all bent out of shape about ARod lying to them and thus fans followed suit. He was tested daily before he could even enter the facility at 1265 so he was probably safer to be around than his vaccinated peers until he came down with it, probably at that Halloween party.

Yeah, like I said if those still want to cry about it there is a bubble or some safespace that was created by a certain group that they could cry in and let it all out.

 

[Don Barclay]

Request to mods: will you please consider a quicker trigger to give posters a time out who willfully, repeatedly ignore mod instructions to knock it off.