Training Camp 2019 notes

[gbgary]

Why? He get a parking ticket or something.

https://www.packers.com/video/lafleur-we-ve-got-to-operate-with-more-urgency

 

[HardRightEdge]

Why? He get a parking ticket or something.

Demovsky's 7/30 blog post:

Packers training camp practice No. 5 news and notes ... 1) If Tuesday was your first day at practice, you probably walked away thinking new coach Matt LaFleur's offense is a disaster. Fumbled snaps, unblocked pass rushers, missed throws and one terrible turnover to end the one-hour-and-50 full pads practice made for a terrible day. "I think it's part of training camp," LaFleur said. "Some days the defense wins, some days the offense wins. Overall, we have to operate with more urgency, just in and out of the huddle." … 1a) The final straw came when Jaire Alexander stripped Davante Adams after he caught slant from Aaron Rodgers, and Blake Martinez recovered the fumble. It was the first play of a third-down period, and LaFleur yanked the No. 1 offense off the field immediately. "That's what happens in a game -- you fumble, you're off," LaFleur said. ... 1b) LaFleur was clearly not happy with the intensity of the practice. It's the first time the new coach has been openly critical of his team, saying "I just don't like the sloppiness in terms of you can always control your effort. Some of the other stuff is out of your control, but you can control your effort, you can control pre-snap penalties, the communication, leaving a guy uncovered, the quarterback-center exchange, it just needs to be better." … 1c) It wasn't just the offense, either. When asked about a long run by Aaron Jones, LaFleur said: "Our defense has to do a better job making sure those holes are not there. Because you cannot give up gashes in the run game." … 2) David Bakhtiari lost only one rep in the 1-on-1 pass rushing in all of the 2018 training camp, which made it stunning to see the All-Pro left tackle get beat on back-to-back reps on Tuesday. But Za'Darius Smith got him on a couple of quick inside moves. "I kind of forgot what it felt like to lose so I kind of wanted to lose two in a row to see how I respond for the rest of practice," said Bakhtiari, who is 2-2 against Smith in camp so far. … 2a) Smith wasn't the only impressive defensive player in the 1-on-1 drill: Dean Lowry twice beat starting RG Billy Turner and Kenny Clark split a pair of reps with starting LG Lane Taylor. However, Preston Smith got nowhere in two reps against starting RT Bryan Bulaga. ... 3) Veteran Mason Crosby may be winning the kicking competition by doing nothing. While he remains out with a calf injury, Sam Ficken missed another kick – this one from 45 yards wide right – in four attempts. Tuesday's four kicks were the first against a live rush. Ficken is now 11-of-14 so far in camp. ... 4) The tackling donuts returned to practice. The Packers had not used them during the first four days of practice but defensive coordinator Mike Pettine said: "You never know what kind of tackling team you're going to have until you get to the games, but I'd be surprised if we're not pretty good at it." ... 5) This hardly fits into the breaking news category, but it sounds like Aaron Rodgers won't play in the preseason opener against the Texans on Aug. 8, especially if Rodgers gets enough quality work in the joint practices with Houston on Aug. 5-6. "Hopefully we get enough good work within those practices to maybe rest him that first preseason game," LaFleur said. Rodgers played exactly 7 snaps all of last preseason. 6) There were no new injuries to report, and the same seven players remained out from the previous practice.

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[El Guapo]

All of that would make me pretty angry too. The best coaches find a way to correct the problems, not just talk about them.

 

[Do7]

This year I feel like I'm gonna be more concerned about the offense rather than the defense.

 

[AmishMafia]

Demovsky's . . . While he remains out with a calf injury, Sam Ficken missed another kick – this one from 45 yards wide right – in four attempts. Tuesday's four kicks were the first against a live rush. Ficken is now 11-of-14 so far in camp. ...

I saw him go 0 for 3 on Sunday. Not sure how many other attempts i didnt see, i was watching other stuff. Maybe it was hiking/holder practice and he was purposely shanking them. But he was missing by 5 - 10 yds at about 30 yds.

 

[GBkrzygrl]

Demovsky's 7/30 blog post:

Packers training camp practice No. 5 news and notes ... 1) If Tuesday was your first day at practice, you probably walked away thinking new coach Matt LaFleur's offense is a disaster. Fumbled snaps, unblocked pass rushers, missed throws and one terrible turnover to end the one-hour-and-50 full pads practice made for a terrible day. "I think it's part of training camp," LaFleur said. "Some days the defense wins, some days the offense wins. Overall, we have to operate with more urgency, just in and out of the huddle." … 1a) The final straw came when Jaire Alexander stripped Davante Adams after he caught slant from Aaron Rodgers, and Blake Martinez recovered the fumble. It was the first play of a third-down period, and LaFleur yanked the No. 1 offense off the field immediately. "That's what happens in a game -- you fumble, you're off," LaFleur said. ... 1b) LaFleur was clearly not happy with the intensity of the practice. It's the first time the new coach has been openly critical of his team, saying "I just don't like the sloppiness in terms of you can always control your effort. Some of the other stuff is out of your control, but you can control your effort, you can control pre-snap penalties, the communication, leaving a guy uncovered, the quarterback-center exchange, it just needs to be better." … 1c) It wasn't just the offense, either. When asked about a long run by Aaron Jones, LaFleur said: "Our defense has to do a better job making sure those holes are not there. Because you cannot give up gashes in the run game." … 2) David Bakhtiari lost only one rep in the 1-on-1 pass rushing in all of the 2018 training camp, which made it stunning to see the All-Pro left tackle get beat on back-to-back reps on Tuesday. But Za'Darius Smith got him on a couple of quick inside moves. "I kind of forgot what it felt like to lose so I kind of wanted to lose two in a row to see how I respond for the rest of practice," said Bakhtiari, who is 2-2 against Smith in camp so far. … 2a) Smith wasn't the only impressive defensive player in the 1-on-1 drill: Dean Lowry twice beat starting RG Billy Turner and Kenny Clark split a pair of reps with starting LG Lane Taylor. However, Preston Smith got nowhere in two reps against starting RT Bryan Bulaga. ... 3) Veteran Mason Crosby may be winning the kicking competition by doing nothing. While he remains out with a calf injury, Sam Ficken missed another kick – this one from 45 yards wide right – in four attempts. Tuesday's four kicks were the first against a live rush. Ficken is now 11-of-14 so far in camp. ... 4) The tackling donuts returned to practice. The Packers had not used them during the first four days of practice but defensive coordinator Mike Pettine said: "You never know what kind of tackling team you're going to have until you get to the games, but I'd be surprised if we're not pretty good at it." ... 5) This hardly fits into the breaking news category, but it sounds like Aaron Rodgers won't play in the preseason opener against the Texans on Aug. 8, especially if Rodgers gets enough quality work in the joint practices with Houston on Aug. 5-6. "Hopefully we get enough good work within those practices to maybe rest him that first preseason game," LaFleur said. Rodgers played exactly 7 snaps all of last preseason. 6) There were no new injuries to report, and the same seven players remained out from the previous practice.

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I for one am glad to see LaFleur getting a little salty. My impression of him for the most part has been that he is a pretty easy going guy. I'm glad that he yanked the offense. Hopefully that makes an impression on them.

 

[longtimefan]

Demovsky's 7/30 blog post:

Packers training camp practice No. 5 news and notes ... 1) If Tuesday was your first day at practice, you probably walked away thinking new coach Matt LaFleur's offense is a disaster. Fumbled snaps, unblocked pass rushers, missed throws and one terrible turnover to end the one-hour-and-50 full pads practice made for a terrible day. "I think it's part of training camp," LaFleur said. "Some days the defense wins, some days the offense wins. Overall, we have to operate with more urgency, just in and out of the huddle." … 1a) The final straw came when Jaire Alexander stripped Davante Adams after he caught slant from Aaron Rodgers, and Blake Martinez recovered the fumble. It was the first play of a third-down period, and LaFleur yanked the No. 1 offense off the field immediately. "That's what happens in a game -- you fumble, you're off," LaFleur said. ... 1b) LaFleur was clearly not happy with the intensity of the practice. It's the first time the new coach has been openly critical of his team, saying "I just don't like the sloppiness in terms of you can always control your effort. Some of the other stuff is out of your control, but you can control your effort, you can control pre-snap penalties, the communication, leaving a guy uncovered, the quarterback-center exchange, it just needs to be better." … 1c) It wasn't just the offense, either. When asked about a long run by Aaron Jones, LaFleur said: "Our defense has to do a better job making sure those holes are not there. Because you cannot give up gashes in the run game." … 2) David Bakhtiari lost only one rep in the 1-on-1 pass rushing in all of the 2018 training camp, which made it stunning to see the All-Pro left tackle get beat on back-to-back reps on Tuesday. But Za'Darius Smith got him on a couple of quick inside moves. "I kind of forgot what it felt like to lose so I kind of wanted to lose two in a row to see how I respond for the rest of practice," said Bakhtiari, who is 2-2 against Smith in camp so far. … 2a) Smith wasn't the only impressive defensive player in the 1-on-1 drill: Dean Lowry twice beat starting RG Billy Turner and Kenny Clark split a pair of reps with starting LG Lane Taylor. However, Preston Smith got nowhere in two reps against starting RT Bryan Bulaga. ... 3) Veteran Mason Crosby may be winning the kicking competition by doing nothing. While he remains out with a calf injury, Sam Ficken missed another kick – this one from 45 yards wide right – in four attempts. Tuesday's four kicks were the first against a live rush. Ficken is now 11-of-14 so far in camp. ... 4) The tackling donuts returned to practice. The Packers had not used them during the first four days of practice but defensive coordinator Mike Pettine said: "You never know what kind of tackling team you're going to have until you get to the games, but I'd be surprised if we're not pretty good at it." ... 5) This hardly fits into the breaking news category, but it sounds like Aaron Rodgers won't play in the preseason opener against the Texans on Aug. 8, especially if Rodgers gets enough quality work in the joint practices with Houston on Aug. 5-6. "Hopefully we get enough good work within those practices to maybe rest him that first preseason game," LaFleur said. Rodgers played exactly 7 snaps all of last preseason. 6) There were no new injuries to report, and the same seven players remained out from the previous practice.

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[Zartan]

This year I feel like I'm gonna be more concerned about the offense rather than the defense.

It would not surprise me if The Pack did make the playoffs it would be on the backs of the Defense.

 

[HardRightEdge]

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To readers:

I did not post the link to the Demovsky notes from 7/30/19 quoted above because it is from his blog-like postings at espn.com which will roll down the page and eventually into the ether.

As many are aware, Demovsky is a former local beat writer who moved to ESPN as their primary Packer reporter and is one of the best sources of Packer news and analysis. In the future, go here:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/gb/green-bay-packers

There are a bunch of fresh notes from traning camp Day 6 today.

 

[longtimefan]

To readers:

I did not post the link to the Demovsky notes from 7/30/19 quoted above because it is from his blog-like postings at espn.com which will roll down the page and eventually into the ether.

As many are aware, Demovsky is a former local beat writer who moved to ESPN as their primary Packer reporter and is one of the best sources of Packer news and analysis. In the future, go here:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/gb/green-bay-packers

There are a bunch of fresh notes from traning camp Day 6 today.

This worked for me...




https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/gb/green-bay-packers

Packers training camp practice No. 5 news and notes ... 1) If Tuesday was your first day at practice, you probably walked away thinking new coach Matt LaFleur's offense is a disaster. Fumbled snaps, unblocked pass rushers, missed throws and one terrible turnover to end the one-hour-and-50 full pads practice made for a terrible day. “I think it's part of training camp,” LaFleur said. “

 

[gbgary]

trevor davis has had an exceptional week (as a wr) it seems. whodathunkit? he'll definitely make the 53 but may actually have a presence in the wr room.

 

[OldSchool101]

It would not surprise me if The Pack did make the playoffs it would be on the backs of the Defense.

Wouldn’t that be a nice change!

 

[OldSchool101]

trevor davis has had an exceptional week (as a wr) it seems. whodathunkit? he'll definitely make the 53 but may actually have a presence in the wr room.

Yes. This doesn’t surprise me either. We haven’t really seen enough of him in O to make a judgement one way or another. But what he has been obligated to do (returns and gunner) he’s done well. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.. it’s basically his 3rd year (due to injury last year) and that’s precisely when many players make that leap. Not to mention both him and G Mo had a good start to last season before succumbing to injury.
We’re letting the kid at least have an opportunity to prove himself and... what do ya know.

 

[PackAttack12]

This year I feel like I'm gonna be more concerned about the offense rather than the defense.

It would not surprise me if The Pack did make the playoffs it would be on the backs of the Defense.

I think the defense will definitely be asked to carry the load to a certain degree in the first half of the season while the offense finds its rhythm. With Rodgers at QB, the transition period shouldn't take a full season, but I wouldn't expect it to be clicking on all cylinders starting week 1.

Apparently that's the expectation many had about the defense in the 1st half of last season in a transition year. I hope they keep that same energy in regards to the offense in the early stages of the season this year...

 

[GBkrzygrl]

To readers:

I did not post the link to the Demovsky notes from 7/30/19 quoted above because it is from his blog-like postings at espn.com which will roll down the page and eventually into the ether.

As many are aware, Demovsky is a former local beat writer who moved to ESPN as their primary Packer reporter and is one of the best sources of Packer news and analysis. In the future, go here:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/gb/green-bay-packers

There are a bunch of fresh notes from traning camp Day 6 today.

Thanks for the link.

 

[El Guapo]

In regards to a kid like Trevor Davis, some players just need more time to get it. As a bunch of macho key-thumpers, we can all sit here and opine on whether or not some kid has the goods at Year 3 or whatever mark the media have espoused. We hope that the GM is much more in tune and able to determine if the kid needs/deserves more time in the system to develop, or we should cut bait (ala Vince Biegel).

 

[Do7]

trevor davis has had an exceptional week (as a wr) it seems. whodathunkit? he'll definitely make the 53 but may actually have a presence in the wr room.

It definitely sounds like he's due to have a breakout year. Which is funny because if he does this definitely feels like Devante Adams all over again b/c he struggled in his early seasons and emerged as a bonafide stud. And SHOULD Davis emerge this is exactly why I said it's too early for people to give up on King and call him a bust.

 

[PackAttack12]

It definitely sounds like he's due to have a breakout year. Which is funny because if he does this definitely feels like Devante Adams all over again b/c he struggled in his early seasons and emerged as a bonafide stud. And SHOULD Davis emerge this is exactly why I said it's too early for people to give up on King and call him a bust.

King just needs to stay healthy and he'll be fine. Problem is, that's far from a given.

 

[gopkrs]

I have seen Davis make a couple of good catches and I have seen him drop some. I think the drops put him in McCarthy's dog house and maybe he did not have the opportunities he could have had. I just don't have confidence that the previous coaching staff always made correct personnel decisions. Gonna have to see the difference with the new staff on those things. But dropping balls is a reason not to keep a receiver. That does not usually make big improvements with time. Now I thought that Sterling Sharpe sometimes dropped balls. But he was so good you don't hold that against him.

 

[sschind]

It definitely sounds like he's due to have a breakout year. Which is funny because if he does this definitely feels like Devante Adams all over again b/c he struggled in his early seasons and emerged as a bonafide stud. And SHOULD Davis emerge this is exactly why I said it's too early for people to give up on King and call him a bust.

I don't think there is much comparison between Adams' early struggles and Davis'. Adams looked decent from the start if I recall he just had a problem holding on to the ball. Davis has had 3 years and can't get on the field.

I guess if he does break out I won't be real surprised becasue it does take some guys a while to get it but I won't be surprised if he doesn't either.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

YNot to mention both him and G Mo had a good start to last season before succumbing to injury.

Davis didn't play a single snap on offense last season.

It definitely sounds like he's due to have a breakout year. Which is funny because if he does this definitely feels like Devante Adams all over again b/c he struggled in his early seasons and emerged as a bonafide stud. And SHOULD Davis emerge this is exactly why I said it's too early for people to give up on King and call him a bust.

It's completely unrealistic to expect Davis to have a similar development like Adams.

 

[HardRightEdge]

I don't think there is much comparison between Adams' early struggles and Davis'. Adams looked decent from the start if I recall he just had a problem holding on to the ball. Davis has had 3 years and can't get on the field.

I guess if he does break out I won't be real surprised becasue it does take some guys a while to get it but I won't be surprised if he doesn't either.

Adams looked promising in his rookie year. In year two he was gimped up with a bum ankle, I believe it was, and was visibly limping around the field. In year three he took off and has proven to be durable.

Davis hasn't shown us anything as a receiver, 8 catches on 14 targets in three years. With a bunch of rookies getting snaps last season he surely had an opportunity. And he is injury prone. And Gutekunst tried to trade him around this time last year.

LaFleur may have liked what he saw in shorts and shirts but lets see what happens in preseason.

 

[OldSchool101]

Davis didn't play a single snap on offense last season.

Never said he did. I stated the exact opposite, so not sure if that was intended fit another poster”

“We haven’t really seen enough of him in O to make a judgement one way or another. But what he has been obligated to do (returns and gunner) he’s done well.”

 

[gbgary]

I have seen Davis make a couple of good catches and I have seen him drop some. I think the drops put him in McCarthy's dog house and maybe he did not have the opportunities he could have had. I just don't have confidence that the previous coaching staff always made correct personnel decisions. Gonna have to see the difference with the new staff on those things. But dropping balls is a reason not to keep a receiver. That does not usually make big improvements with time. Now I thought that Sterling Sharpe sometimes dropped balls. But he was so good you don't hold that against him.

he was in the rodgers dog house too..."still catching with his body." maybe an enlightening and new coaches have flipped a switch for him. i'd still put him at, or near, the bottom of the wr hierarchy but in the new O he may actually see the field.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Yes. This doesn’t surprise me either. We haven’t really seen enough of him in O to make a judgement one way or another. But what he has been obligated to do (returns and gunner) he’s done well. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.. it’s basically his 3rd year (due to injury last year) and that’s precisely when many players make that leap. Not to mention both him and G Mo had a good start to last season before succumbing to injury.
We’re letting the kid at least have an opportunity to prove himself and... what do ya know.

Good comeback on the comment about Davis not playing a WR snap last years. You didn’t say that.

As for Davis, he’s certainly valuable on STs as a KR. He needs to contribute beyond that and I’m hoping this is the year. And I know, “hope” isn’t a strategy!