Three Positions Gute Has To Target EARLY in 2025 Draft

[tynimiller]

So with a quarter of the 2024 season having come and left....the earliest (still premature) directional growth or stagnation (or death...) are becoming visible.

First, let's not even use Corner as one of these three...everyone with half a football brain cell knows it - barring a massive change down the stretch by say a King coming in or Stokes waking up or Nixon doing something...my money is ******* CB in the first round of the 2025 draft.

Cornerback - I would argue that 2025 the need for cornerback will be as high as it arguably has been since maybe a decade ago. Unlike last year where we had a promising Valentine, a hopefully healthy and coming back Stokes, an energized Jaire and for some reason a team hopeful Nixon is good......2025 unless something big turns around we won't have Stokes as part of the discussion (he isn't playing good enough for more than a one year deal that is CHEAP), Nixon has time and time again been the weak link team's target and Jaire for another year cannot stay healthy. Yes, Jaire is really really good typically when he is healthy - worst case he is a clear starting CB anywhere (whether a teams' CB1 or CB2). But truthfully after that Valentine is the clear next best and everyone knows I love the kid but still we have to have more.

BUT here are three positions I think folks may not like to hear we need to target but we really should in the first two days of the 2025 draft...

Defensive Line...I understood why we passed on some guys I really liked in 2024 along the trenches...Wooden and Brooks both showed promise as rookies, Slaton played amazing in 2023 with more snaps and Wyatt was finally starting to come into his own....however resting on our laurels and expecting Kenny to continue to play at elite or just below level simply isn't happening. Slaton has not played up to a new contract offer IMO, especially because Brooks and Wooden in limited snaps appear to be ready for a more action (Brooks especially) and Wyatt is finally coming into his own. HOWEVER, also a big piece is folks Kenny Clarke is starting to slow....yes he is incredibly young still really chronologically but 2025 would be his tenth season folks, that body has seen a lot of NFL snaps. Getting a high level (first or second round type) guy that can be an absolute wrecking ball in the middle and force this team to ask if Clark is still the best there would instantly make this team better across ALL aspects of the defense. We have the pressure guys that seem special at that in Wyatt and Brooks along the inside...get me a high level run and pass type player like Clark has been for so long (until this year).
Some of my favorite early interior DL prospects - Mason Graham - Michigan, Tyleik Williams - Ohio State, TJ Sanders - South Carolina, Dontay Corleone - Cincy, Kenneth Grant - Michigan

Off Ball Linebacker...Most know this is also a need like CB but we also know positional value isn't there for here BUT we have McDuffie in a contract year...we have Eric Wilson in a contract year (yes logic says one or both may be cheap resigns) BUT this team needs to push the gas pedal and find the future pairing with Cooper who is the future. Quay has another year, 2025, to possibly play himself into a role for the future but this cannot be banked on as he simply has laid down three years that say good but not great off ball linebacker...that literally leaves us essentially with Cooper and guys we want around for depth. Now I think we should strive to get Evan Williams and Javon Bullard both in more with X - and one way to do this is play Evan more in that hybrid box/safety role he's done a lot in college, but we NEED a off ball linebacker and I'd love to see Gute do the ole' one early and one late plan of attack here like he's done on some positions before.
Some of my favorite off ball backers right now that may need a top 100 pick - Jamon Dumas-Johnson - Kentucky, Danny Stutsman - Oklahoma, Lander Barton - Utah, Harold Perkins - LSU (dude is an all over chess piece), Barrett Carter - Clemson

Tight End - Musgrave at most is only ever going to be a receiving option...when he is in every team knows its' a key or tendency that he is NOT going to be asked to be a lead blocker unless GB wants to fail. Sims is a TE3 at most. Getting another high level TE wouldn't just push this position forward, it also acts as a buffer to the influx that is bound to hit the WR room at some point in the coming years - stabilizing this position with a TE option now defends against WR issues possibly having a rippling effect.
Some of my favorite Tight Ends to compliment Kraft that for sure deserve a top 100 pick - Colston Loveland - Michigan, Oronde Gadsden - Syracuse (little bit of a Musgrave 2.0 type), Harold Fannin - Bowling Green, Mitchell Evans - Notre Dame.

 

[OldSchool101]

Also reminder that iLB Ty’Ron Hopper is in the shadows. On reason I bring that up is imo it pushes LB into a medium need. They did spend a 2nd and 3rd Rounders last March. My guess is we really think Hopper will be a Starter in 2025/2026. Also it’s a coin flip but you can still get a good Off Ball LB through Rd4-5 if necessary. The lack of emphasis leaguewide at LB has almost pushed that position down 1 draft Round.


The obvious ones are where the Roster needs depth by numbers default
WR, CB, OL, DL and we just drafted 3 OL in March

CB just from the argument that it seems like 1 of the 2 primary perimeter starters miss time. Plus Stokes is coming into a contract year and it often takes a year of repeat before being thrust into a Starting role. This could depend on what we see from Valentine and King IF or when they get more time.

DL.
Now I like our grouping, but I also wonder if an upgrade here in the D interior isn’t warranted. It just seems like we are underwhelming in the middle. If a Top 40-50 type was there then they in later RD2 I’d have to seriously give premium Beef precedent and trim the fat there.

WR

One thing to consider is the cost to resign Watson or Doubs. Both will sneak into contract years and priming the position by grooming another WR for a season might not be a bad decision. More from a staggered approach to keep them in the pipeline. We also are having some minor conflict here and also injuries are an ongoing concern. So if we keep 6 and PS another. We’d be looking at
Reed, Wicks, 1 of 2 between Doubs/Watson.
Then we’d need 3 more, so 1 of Melton or Heath. Plus throw another Top 90 type WR selection into the fray and I’d feel pretty comfortable. Just too many injuries and other issues at WR to not pipeline a Top 100 draft selection for 2 straight drafts.

 

[OldSchool101]

I will also offer that Malik Willis might morph into a nice draft pick. Even a chance at a half year rental and he likely draws a 4th Rounder or an earlier package of a pair of later Day 3 selections. 5th/6th etc.
That’s potentially recouping our lost selection for his trade (similar to upgrading our 7th in a pick swap) PLUS getting us a pretty good stab at a bonus LB in that top 150 area.
Having Quay/Cooper/Hopper plus choice of McDuffie or Wilson and a good Draft pick such as that bonus 4th Rounder or 4th Comp in trade.

 

[tynimiller]

Also reminder that iLB Ty’Ron Hopper is in the shadows. On reason I bring that up is imo it pushes LB into a medium need. They did spend a 2nd and 3rd Rounders last March. My guess is we really think Hopper will be a Starter in 2025/2026. Also it’s a coin flip but you can still get a good Off Ball LB through Rd4-5 if necessary. The lack of emphasis leaguewide at LB has almost pushed that position down 1 draft Round.


The obvious ones are where the Roster needs depth by numbers default
WR, CB, OL, DL and we just drafted 3 OL in March

CB just from the argument that it seems like 1 of the 2 primary perimeter starters miss time. Plus Stokes is coming into a contract year and it often takes a year of repeat before being thrust into a Starting role. This could depend on what we see from Valentine and King IF or when they get more time.

DL.
Now I like our grouping, but I also wonder if an upgrade here in the D interior isn’t warranted. It just seems like we are underwhelming in the middle. If a Top 40-50 type was there then they in later RD2 I’d have to seriously give premium Beef precedent and trim the fat there.

WR

One thing to consider is the cost to resign Watson or Doubs. Both will sneak into contract years and priming the position by grooming another WR for a season might not be a bad decision. More from a staggered approach to keep them in the pipeline. We also are having some minor conflict here and also injuries are an ongoing concern. So if we keep 6 and PS another. We’d be looking at
Reed, Wicks, 1 of 2 between Doubs/Watson.
Then we’d need 3 more, so 1 of Melton or Heath. Plus throw another Top 90 type WR selection into the fray and I’d feel pretty comfortable. Just too many injuries and other issues at WR to not pipeline a Top 100 draft selection for 2 straight drafts.

I had him on the list and spaced it. Completely agree on T Hop was omitted.

 

[tynimiller]

I will also offer that Malik Willis might morph into a nice draft pick. Even a chance at a half year rental and he likely draws a 4th Rounder or an earlier package of a pair of later Day 3 selections. 5th/6th etc.
That’s potentially recouping our lost selection for his trade (similar to upgrading our 7th in a pick swap) PLUS getting us a pretty good stab at a bonus LB in that top 150 area.
Having Quay/Cooper/Hopper plus choice of McDuffie or Wilson and a good Draft pick such as that bonus 4th Rounder or 4th Comp in trade.

They aren't trading him this year and a trade in next season would net a pick in the 2026 draft - I don't disagree but talking 2025.

Your WR thought is interesting and I honestly expect we pick a Day 3 type guy, none of our WRs are gone after this season - Bo is the only one they have to do anything on but he's still a ERFA. Would be a waste of capital to pick a top 100 as posed unless of course someone falls.

 

[OldSchool101]

They aren't trading him this year and a trade in next season would net a pick in the 2026 draft - I don't disagree but talking 2025.

Your WR thought is interesting and I honestly expect we pick a Day 3 type guy, none of our WRs are gone after this season - Bo is the only one they have to do anything on but he's still a ERFA. Would be a waste of capital to pick a top 100 as posed unless of course someone falls.

That’s true in the trade scenario. I guess I’d still consider a LB, just not with a 1st or 2nd unless he’s just a total stud that slips some. I’m not putting blinders on, just in an ideal scenario I’d go RD3-RD5 at ILB. As of now, if you told me I could add 1 Top 25 and 1 Top 57 selection? I’m going CB and DL or maybe as a backup if those are gone grab 1 more really good OL.

Totally agree at CB.
don’t want Nixon playing for J’aire ever again. He’s ok for the Slot as part of a good CB/DB room but past that we’re a little light in depth options. At least until we see what King or Valentine look with better samples.

Totally agree at DL.
I know TJ has played good for a later Day 3 selection. But on many NFL Rosters he’s not a Bonafide Starter. Slaton is what I’d call a moderate to lower end Starter and that is not an insult. TJ would be better suited to play that rotational piece and he’s good enough to be a temporary fix or patch if someone goes down. Plus like you said we skipped both WR and DT in 2024 but I don’t suggest doing that in consecutive drafts. Plus hard to believe Watson will be going into his final contract season. Might want to look for his successor and get Jordan a Really good WR in RD2-3 to prime for the 2025 season

 

[shockerx]

Also reminder that iLB Ty’Ron Hopper is in the shadows. On reason I bring that up is imo it pushes LB into a medium need. They did spend a 2nd and 3rd Rounders last March. My guess is we really think Hopper will be a Starter in 2025/2026. Also it’s a coin flip but you can still get a good Off Ball LB through Rd4-5 if necessary. The lack of emphasis leaguewide at LB has almost pushed that position down 1 draft Round.


The obvious ones are where the Roster needs depth by numbers default
WR, CB, OL, DL and we just drafted 3 OL in March

CB just from the argument that it seems like 1 of the 2 primary perimeter starters miss time. Plus Stokes is coming into a contract year and it often takes a year of repeat before being thrust into a Starting role. This could depend on what we see from Valentine and King IF or when they get more time.

DL.
Now I like our grouping, but I also wonder if an upgrade here in the D interior isn’t warranted. It just seems like we are underwhelming in the middle. If a Top 40-50 type was there then they in later RD2 I’d have to seriously give premium Beef precedent and trim the fat there.

WR

One thing to consider is the cost to resign Watson or Doubs. Both will sneak into contract years and priming the position by grooming another WR for a season might not be a bad decision. More from a staggered approach to keep them in the pipeline. We also are having some minor conflict here and also injuries are an ongoing concern. So if we keep 6 and PS another. We’d be looking at
Reed, Wicks, 1 of 2 between Doubs/Watson.
Then we’d need 3 more, so 1 of Melton or Heath. Plus throw another Top 90 type WR selection into the fray and I’d feel pretty comfortable. Just too many injuries and other issues at WR to not pipeline a Top 100 draft selection for 2 straight drafts.

Nice Tyni....any thoughts on Jay Higgins number 34 from Iowa..looks like a real football player. I know its early but would he fit in our defense? is he a day 2 guy?

 

[tynimiller]

Nice Tyni....any thoughts on Jay Higgins number 34 from Iowa..looks like a real football player. I know its early but would he fit in our defense? is he a day 2 guy?

ATM I have a 5th round grade on him. Personally I don't see a high level athletic profile, what I do see is a high IQ football player who his only shortcoming is purely physicial abilities and nothing more. That doesn't mean he couldn't work his way to being lower snap starter who likely is taken out for passing down or sub packages....

 

[shockerx]

thanks Tyni....sounds like he's McDuffie. Ive heard some talk about him..so good info as always.






thanks

 

[tynimiller]

thanks Tyni....sounds like he's McDuffie. Ive heard some talk about him..so good info as always.






thanks

I personally would say his ceiling I see is a guy step up from McDuffie

 

[PikeBadger]

So with a quarter of the 2024 season having come and left....the earliest (still premature) directional growth or stagnation (or death...) are becoming visible.

First, let's not even use Corner as one of these three...everyone with half a football brain cell knows it - barring a massive change down the stretch by say a King coming in or Stokes waking up or Nixon doing something...my money is ******* CB in the first round of the 2025 draft.

Cornerback - I would argue that 2025 the need for cornerback will be as high as it arguably has been since maybe a decade ago. Unlike last year where we had a promising Valentine, a hopefully healthy and coming back Stokes, an energized Jaire and for some reason a team hopeful Nixon is good......2025 unless something big turns around we won't have Stokes as part of the discussion (he isn't playing good enough for more than a one year deal that is CHEAP), Nixon has time and time again been the weak link team's target and Jaire for another year cannot stay healthy. Yes, Jaire is really really good typically when he is healthy - worst case he is a clear starting CB anywhere (whether a teams' CB1 or CB2). But truthfully after that Valentine is the clear next best and everyone knows I love the kid but still we have to have more.

BUT here are three positions I think folks may not like to hear we need to target but we really should in the first two days of the 2025 draft...

Defensive Line...I understood why we passed on some guys I really liked in 2024 along the trenches...Wooden and Brooks both showed promise as rookies, Slaton played amazing in 2023 with more snaps and Wyatt was finally starting to come into his own....however resting on our laurels and expecting Kenny to continue to play at elite or just below level simply isn't happening. Slaton has not played up to a new contract offer IMO, especially because Brooks and Wooden in limited snaps appear to be ready for a more action (Brooks especially) and Wyatt is finally coming into his own. HOWEVER, also a big piece is folks Kenny Clarke is starting to slow....yes he is incredibly young still really chronologically but 2025 would be his tenth season folks, that body has seen a lot of NFL snaps. Getting a high level (first or second round type) guy that can be an absolute wrecking ball in the middle and force this team to ask if Clark is still the best there would instantly make this team better across ALL aspects of the defense. We have the pressure guys that seem special at that in Wyatt and Brooks along the inside...get me a high level run and pass type player like Clark has been for so long (until this year).
Some of my favorite early interior DL prospects - Mason Graham - Michigan, Tyleik Williams - Ohio State, TJ Sanders - South Carolina, Dontay Corleone - Cincy, Kenneth Grant - Michiga
Off Ball Linebacker...Most know this is also a need like CB but we also know positional value isn't there for here BUT we have McDuffie in a contract year...we have Eric Wilson in a contract year (yes logic says one or both may be cheap resigns) BUT this team needs to push the gas pedal and find the future pairing with Cooper who is the future. Quay has another year, 2025, to possibly play himself into a role for the future but this cannot be banked on as he simply has laid down three years that say good but not great off ball linebacker...that literally leaves us essentially with Cooper and guys we want around for depth. Now I think we should strive to get Evan Williams and Javon Bullard both in more with X - and one way to do this is play Evan more in that hybrid box/safety role he's done a lot in college, but we NEED a off ball linebacker and I'd love to see Gute do the ole' one early and one late plan of attack here like he's done on some positions before.
Some of my favorite off ball backers right now that may need a top 100 pick - Jamon Dumas-Johnson - Kentucky, Danny Stutsman - Oklahoma, Lander Barton - Utah, Harold Perkins - LSU (dude is an all over chess piece), Barrett Carter - Clemson

Tight End - Musgrave at most is only ever going to be a receiving option...when he is in every team knows its' a key or tendency that he is NOT going to be asked to be a lead blocker unless GB wants to fail. Sims is a TE3 at most. Getting another high level TE wouldn't just push this position forward, it also acts as a buffer to the influx that is bound to hit the WR room at some point in the coming years - stabilizing this position with a TE option now defends against WR issues possibly having a rippling effect.
Some of my favorite Tight Ends to compliment Kraft that for sure deserve a top 100 pick - Colston Loveland - Michigan, Oronde Gadsden - Syracuse (little bit of a Musgrave 2.0 type), Harold Fannin - Bowling Green, Mitchell Evans - Notre Dame.

I'm hoping that we can get a good interior defensive lineman in the first round this year. This is the year to do it from what I've heard about the quality of prospects.

 

[tynimiller]

I'm hoping that we can get a good interior defensive lineman in the first round this year. This is the year to do it from what I've heard about the quality of prospects.

Yes and no. There are some good ones for sure, but VERY early on I lean towards second round value being high but too much is unknown right now on how things fall out