The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

[Mondio]

hard to be critical of a man giving what is likely nothing more than an honest answer to a question. it doesn't indicate he's a quitter, not working hard, going rogue or any other crazy conclusion the media wants to draw out of this.

I probably wouldn't like it as a QB either. If I was a linebacker or RB or offensive lineman or DB or any other position I'd probably love it.

I have little doubt the offense and receivers have enough to learn from regular practices that joint ones at this point in the learning curve is mostly pointless. But I do feel many of the other positions and the defense do benefit from working against others right now. Personally, I'm indifferent to them.

 

[gbgary]

With respect I disagree. You talk about how he could've answered the question in a benign way, but the way I see it there was nothing wrong with how he answered. It's how people interpreted his answer. It's kinda like when your gf asks if an outfit looks good on them and you say it looks fine, and then the girlfriend flips out and whatnot saying how you don't like it when that isn't remotely what you said. Again it's at the point if Rodgers does that then the critics will say he's being either sarcastic or disingenuine. Again it's white noise. They're making the distraction, not Aaron.

except it's perpetuating the narrative that he's not buying-in fully. and there's no other way to interpret what he said. he didn't like it...MLF does. he could have said "it's a valuable way to help the coaches evaluate the physical progress of our players." he chose a dig instead. so the next few days they'll have to deal with it...when it was totally unnecessary.

 

[Do7]

except it's perpetuating the narrative that he's not buying-in fully. and there's no other way to interpret what he said. he didn't like it...MLF does. he could have said "it's a valuable way to help the coaches evaluate the physical progress of our players." he chose a dig instead. so the next few days they'll have to deal with it...when it was totally unnecessary.

Or he just doesn't enjoy doing joint practices, whereas MLF does and simply take it at face value rather than see it as he's undermining the head coach. And again it's based on interpretation and as usual the critics decided to interpret what he said and make a big deal out of it.

 

[Stanger37]

except it's perpetuating the narrative that he's not buying-in fully. and there's no other way to interpret what he said. he didn't like it...MLF does. he could have said "it's a valuable way to help the coaches evaluate the physical progress of our players." he chose a dig instead. so the next few days they'll have to deal with it...when it was totally unnecessary.

and if he said that

"wow, Rodgers is pretty much cashed out. he got his money, he is just riding off to the sunset. he lost the chip on his shoulder. Just saying whatever the coach says. I knew he was never the leader of this team. He got his superbowl and was content with that. He isn't even taking shots in the media anymore"

he can't win, what's the point in stopping now? I'd rather hear honest things out of his mouth, even if it rubs people the wrong way. There are more players that side with Rodgers than not, but you only ever hear the ones that didn't see eye to eye with him.

 

[Mondio]

Or he just doesn't enjoy doing joint practices, whereas MLF does and simply take it at face value rather than see it as he's undermining the head coach. And again it's based on interpretation and as usual the critics decided to interpret what he said and make a big deal out of it.

Players and coaches rarely view things from the same vantage point. This is nothing unusual. now if they asked him if he is doing all he can to win and he said no, I'd be concerned. had they asked him why he didn't look sharp and he said something like, "well i just dont' like joint practices" i'd be concerned.

But that's not what happened. Joint practices come with their own set of issues,it's not all beneficial. you have twice the coaches and every play is something different that needs to be addressed running an offense that probably is now where near running against a live defense and there was little reason to need to see it against another defense to know that. it should hardly be surprising the QB wasn't a huge fan.

I think while the teams as whole may have benefited some from the joint practices and the city of GB likely did, the offense probably could have been better served without adding more distraction as they weren't likely ready for it anyway.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Aaron Rodgers thinks it's dumb to run close to live kickoff drills because of injury risk and that the NFLPA might look at it as a CBA violation. It might be worth noting two Packers got leveled by Lonnie Jackson in what was supposed to be a non-tackling drill, including Sternberger with a possible concussion.

Aaron Rodgers also said:

“I like the scheme. I mean, I do. I like the scheme a lot. I like the stresses that it puts on defenses, I like the marriage of the run game with the action. I like our concepts from both stack alignments, bunch alignments and from wide alignments. I think it’s going to be very tough to get a bead on what we’re doing.”

So, which quote do you want to emphasize? Which is the one that really matters?

 

[Do7]

Aaron Rodgers thinks it's dumb to run close to live kickoff drills because of injury risk and that the NFLPA might look at as a CBA violation. It might be worth noting two Packers got leveled by Lonnie Jackson in what was supposed to be a non-tackling drill, including Sternberger with a possible concussion.

Aaron Rodgers also said:

“I like the scheme. I mean, I do. I like the scheme a lot. I like the stresses that it puts on defenses, I like the marriage of the run game with the action. I like our concepts from both stack alignments, bunch alignments and from wide alignments. I think it’s going to be very tough to get a bead on what we’re doing.”

So, which quote do you want to emphasize? Which is the one that really matters?

Well @gbgary? What say you?

 

[gbgary]

Well @gbgary? What say you?

that quote is perfect. it's exactly what you want to hear. it won't feed the diva narrative. unfortunately that's not the quote they'll be addressing the next day or two.

 

[Mondio]

so stop paying attention to the places the exist to create controversy and drama. he didn't say or do anything wrong or controversial, don't give clicks or eyeballs to those that clip and cut to feed their agenda. it's the only way to get rid of them.

 

[OldSchool101]

The good thing is this when folks diminish our team they set themselves up for a major disappointment.
I remember a story where Holmgren would advise his players to play along with negative media questions and just say “we suck bad”. Mike’s was a take of staying under the radar so opposing teams don’t get mentally prepared the way they would if you become a target. He looked for every possible edge, until it was too late for said opponents to prepare or adjust.

 

[pacmaniac]

The good thing is this when folks diminish our team they set themselves up for a major disappointment. I remember a story where Holmgren would advise the players to play along with negative media questions and just say “we suck bad”. Mike’s was a take of staying under the radar so opposing teams don’t get mentally prepared the way they would if you become a target. He looked for every possible edge, until it was too late for said opponents to prepare or adjust.

Ironically I read the Broncos used the exact same mentality in preparation for Super Bowl XXXII.

 

[PackerDNA]

Everyday I see articles that are just itching to find some problem with Rogers, or between Rogers and LaFluer. I don't think there are any issues, accept in the media's fevered imaginations.

 

[Do7]

that quote is perfect. it's exactly what you want to hear. it won't feed the diva narrative. unfortunately that's not the quote they'll be addressing the next day or two.

So he didn't say anything wrong. Again it's simply once again the media trying to make something out of nothing.

so stop paying attention to the places the exist to create controversy and drama. he didn't say or do anything wrong or controversial, don't give clicks or eyeballs to those that clip and cut to feed their agenda. it's the only way to get rid of them.

Bingo!

 

[HardRightEdge]

that quote is perfect. it's exactly what you want to hear. it won't feed the diva narrative. unfortunately that's not the quote they'll be addressing the next day or two.

Who are "they" and why should we care?

 

[rmontro]

it happened. it's not made up. we all know rodgers takes the passive-aggressive shot. i hope MLF doubles down on the being the boss. it is newsworthy though. even realistic Packers press like aaron nagler have addressed it.

Yeah, I mean surely no one expects the press NOT to report it? I don't think what he said is any big deal though. Maybe some players were concerned about injuries in the kickoff drill, and Rodgers took it upon himself as team leader to say something. He's much less expendable than the other players, after all.

The bit in the article that suggested Rodgers might end up like Favre did was the ridiculous part.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Come on now, see what the media has people even doing in here....questioning the way Rodgers answers questions. If he can't be himself, who do you expect him to be? I sure the hell don't want to see all the Packer players and coaches go silent, that makes it look more like there is a problem than just simply speaking your mind.

 

[bigbubbatd]

Wow pro football talk wrote an article implying Rodgers is a diva...haven't seen that before

Seriously I know they get paid by clicks but this gets old. Luckily I never follow them and really only see stuff posted here

 

[weeds]

Aaron poo-poo'd Florio last season telling a questioner to in effect not believe anything you read at PFT.

Since then, Florio has been twisting, turning and skewering Rodgers' words anytime he can....in a way only a 3rd rate failed attorney can. He's also not shy in promoting his Vikie fan tendency. There is NO pretext of being a responsible site - I mean, "rumors" is their name.

 

[LambeauLombardi]

Just my 2 cents, I believe this retardedness by the media trying to separate the Packers will actually bring them closer together. Any time I see some butthurt mention of the Pack by Mike Attention Whoreio, Cownerd, Skip Brainless, Tyler Done, and a Patriots fan, I just smile because I think it's going to work out in the long run.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

that quote is perfect. it's exactly what you want to hear. it won't feed the diva narrative. unfortunately that's not the quote they'll be addressing the next day or two.

You and others reading that BS and criticizing Rodgers because of it is the only reason the media will address it over the next few days.

 

[bigbubbatd]

Aaron poo-poo'd Florio last season telling a questioner to in effect not believe anything you read at PFT.

Since then, Florio has been twisting, turning and skewering Rodgers' words anytime he can....in a way only a 3rd rate failed attorney can. He's also not shy in promoting his Vikie fan tendency. There is NO pretext of being a responsible site - I mean, "rumors" is their name.

Actually florio's axe to grind with Rodgers started long before that. I am remember his hit piece about Rodgers "ignoring" a fan who had cancer

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...aron-rodgers-video-packers-fan-cancer-patient

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

You and others reading that BS and criticizing Rodgers because of it is the only reason the media will address it over the next few days.

I hate the news media especially in sports, don't believe any of it.

I always love when coaches and players are ask stupid questions like:

Report: "How do you feel about losing this game today?"

What are they suppose to say...

Player: "Oh, I feel happy it's great!"

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Actually florio's axe to grind with Rodgers started long before that. I am remember his hit piece about Rodgers "ignoring" a fan who had cancer

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...aron-rodgers-video-packers-fan-cancer-patient

Thankfully I missed that article and situation back in 2011. But a great post and article for people to read to see just how guys like Florio and many other talking heads can get things wrong due to knee jerk and poor journalism.

 

[Mondio]

stop linking his articles, let them die the death they deserve

 

[LambeauLombardi]

Actually florio's axe to grind with Rodgers started long before that. I am remember his hit piece about Rodgers "ignoring" a fan who had cancer

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sb...aron-rodgers-video-packers-fan-cancer-patient

Yeah Florio is such a nutcase he was trying to make a negative story during Super Bowl week. It didn't work. He hasn't been able to make a story like that for the Vikings because the haven't made the Super Bowl since Elvis was alive in 1977.

I hate the news media especially in sports, don't believe any of it.

I always love when coaches and players are ask stupid questions like:

Report: "How do you feel about losing this game today?"

What are they suppose to say...

Player: "Oh, I feel happy it's great!"

FS1 has it out for our franchise. Jamie Horowitz before he got fired was the Fox Sports Exec. He is from Boston and we know that people from there are obsessed with Rodgers taking away from Brady's glory.