The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

[Pokerbrat2000]

Thing is when you put it like that though, makes you wonder why Jerry Jones hasn't tossed Garrett out the door yet and replaced him with Romo lol

I know you know this, but thought I better point it out. So much more to head coaching then just being great at X's and O's. I actually prefer a system with a head coach, an OC who calls the plays and a DC. I think McCarthy was a perfect example of what can happen when the head coach tries to do too much. I hope MLF calling the plays this season changes my opinion.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Thing is when you put it like that though, makes you wonder why Jerry Jones hasn't tossed Garrett out the door yet and replaced him with Romo lol

Cause Jerry is more interested in getting the credit for winning a Super Bowl than actually winning a Super Bowl.

 

[OldSchool101]

Thing is when you put it like that though, makes you wonder why Jerry Jones hasn't tossed Garrett out the door yet and replaced him with Romo lol

I asked that very question earlier this year!

 

[Heyjoe4]

I know you know this, but thought I better point it out. So much more to head coaching then just being great at X's and O's. I actually prefer a system with a head coach, an OC who calls the plays and a DC. I think McCarthy was a perfect example of what can happen when the head coach tries to do too much. I hope MLF calling the plays this season changes my opinion.

I don’t get the point of having an OC who has nothing to do on game day. But this seems to be the trend.

 

[OldSchool101]

Cause Jerry is more interested in getting the credit for winning a Super Bowl than actually winning a Super Bowl.

Can you spell PUPPETMASTER!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don’t get the point of having an OC who has nothing to do on game day. But this seems to be the trend.

Well I am guessing that Hackett, the Packers current OC, won't be standing around doing nothing on game day. Hackett has quite a bit more experience then some of the guys MM slotted into that role. As I said, hopefully Matty L will excel at being a HC and play caller and if he needs input from his OC during a game, I can see him being more open to it than MM seemed to be. I don't necessarily have a problem with the HC calling plays, but if he is also trying to manage the clock, work challenges, coordinate the coordinators, etc., that is a lot on one persons plate.

I couldn't find this information for 2018, but this 2017 ranking shows it is kind of a mixed bag in the NFL of whether the HC or OC is calling the offensive plays, as are the results of such.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/pa...lers-all-32-nfl-teams-how-their-offense-ranks

 

[PackerfaninCarolina]

I know you know this, but thought I better point it out. So much more to head coaching then just being great at X's and O's. I actually prefer a system with a head coach, an OC who calls the plays and a DC. I think McCarthy was a perfect example of what can happen when the head coach tries to do too much. I hope MLF calling the plays this season changes my opinion.

I know, I just read around sometimes about things and I sometimes see popular opinion that Jerruh has kept Garrett around like this because he sees him as his "golden calf" from having drafted or brought him in as a backup QB and all, and of course him being the "puppetmaster" sure lol. But I guess I figure if you're going to weigh golden calfs, one would figure Romo has a lot more ounces of gold in him both from a player and coach ability standpoint.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Thing is when you put it like that though, makes you wonder why Jerry Jones hasn't tossed Garrett out the door yet and replaced him with Romo lol

I don't have the impression that Romo is interested in coaching.

I don’t get the point of having an OC who has nothing to do on game day. But this seems to be the trend.

Hackett definitely has a ton of responsibilities on game day, calling plays just not being one of them.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I know you know this, but thought I better point it out. So much more to head coaching then just being great at X's and O's. I actually prefer a system with a head coach, an OC who calls the plays and a DC. I think McCarthy was a perfect example of what can happen when the head coach tries to do too much. I hope MLF calling the plays this season changes my opinion.

This is one of the reasons that some point to when mentioning that Special Teams coordinators make great head coaches. Being head coach means playing politics a lot and balancing things between sides of the ball. That's a big part of what the special teams coach does every day; dealing with both defensive and offensive players.

 

[gbgary]

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[Do7]

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I just KNEW someone was going to bring this up. Gary come on! This is not even newsworthy. That's just the media trying to stir the freaking pot and you know it.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I agree with Do7 on this. So tired of the media trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Who freaking cares if #12 expresses his opinion on what appears to have been a scrimmage mired with some problems?

I don't always agree with friends and family, that doesn't mean we don't have a good relationship. I would be more worried if Rodgers was trying to blow sunshine up everyone's *** all the time and not speaking his mind or the truth.

The media has found great click bait in using the name Aaron Rodgers, so I am pretty sure this won't be the last we hear from the talking heads on anything negative and inconsequential that they can stir up about the guy to try and get people reading their trash.

 

[gbgary]

I just KNEW someone was going to bring this up. Gary come on! This is not even newsworthy. That's just the media trying to stir the freaking pot and you know it.

just throwing it out there. it happened. it's not made up. we all know rodgers takes the passive-aggressive shot. i hope MLF doubles down on the being the boss. it is newsworthy though. even realistic Packers press like aaron nagler have addressed it.

 

[Do7]

What's even more annoying is how everyone jumps on top of this. I've encountered several people that called Rodgers a jerk, and when I asked them how and name an instance when he was being a jerk, they couldn't name one.

 

[Do7]

just throwing it out there. it happened. it's not made up. we all know rodgers takes the passive-aggressive shot. i hope MLF doubles down on the being the boss.

You know what? Why even bother asking Rodgers anymore questions at this point? I mean for pete's sake if everyone is going to make a mountain hill of such a small matter and think that Rodgers is questioning authority simply because he doesn't agree with every single thing with a new head coach who is relatively green and isn't really proven, then we may as well stop. Evidently it's clear at this point that no matter what Rodgers says, he's either taking a shot at someone or being negative. Good lord.

 

[gbgary]

You know what? Why even bother asking Rodgers anymore questions at this point? I mean for pete's sake if everyone is going to make a mountain hill of such a small matter and think that Rodgers is questioning authority simply because he doesn't agree with every single thing with a new head coach who is relatively green and isn't really proven, then we may as well stop. Evidently it's clear at this point that no matter what Rodgers says, he's either taking a shot at someone or being negative. Good lord.

in such a critical year, with all the speculation going into it about the how rodgers would behave, you'd think rodgers would be more self-aware. maybe he just doesn't gaf and is going to say what he wants to say no matter the distraction/consequence. it seems to be going just the way i figured it would though. oh well.

 

[Mondio]

What’s this all about? I refuse to click twitter links. Joint practices?

 

[Do7]

in such a critical year, with all the speculation going into it about the how rodgers would behave, you'd think rodgers would be more self-aware. maybe he just doesn't gaf and is going to say what he wants to say no matter the distraction/consequence. it seems to be going just the way i figured it would though. oh well.

Or maybe just maybe, people just want to use their magnifying glass just to make a big deal out of something that's really nonexistent. Next thing we're going to criticize Rodgers is how disingenuine he is because he sees no matter what he says it's going to be seen as him being either critical, or taking a shot at someone. The only "distraction" is the fact that people such as yourself and others are making this into a bigger deal that it needs to be. So I suppose Rodgers should simply not say a word or anything. It's always a critical year with number 12. I swear Rodgers is one of the most dissected QB's in the NFL.

 

[Ceodore]

Or maybe just maybe, people just want to use their magnifying glass just to make a big deal out of something that's really nonexistent. Next thing we're going to criticize Rodgers is how disingenuine he is because he sees no matter what he says it's going to be seen as him being either critical, or taking a shot at someone. The only "distraction" is the fact that people such as yourself and others are making this into a bigger deal that it needs to be. So I suppose Rodgers should simply not say a word or anything. It's always a critical year with number 12. I swear Rodgers is one of the most dissected QB's in the NFL.

I get it, they're making a bigger deal than it is. But assuming Rodgers knows MLF just came out of his presser talking about how much he liked the combined practice, it would be nice (especially after all of the drama last year) if he made it appear like he and MLF were in agreement, even if he hates them. He could have downplayed it to the effect of "oh they're fine as long as nobody gets hurt" or any degree of biting his tongue. It's just difficult not to read into even the minor things these days after everything that went down.

 

[Stanger37]

I get it, they're making a bigger deal than it is. But assuming Rodgers knows MLF just came out of his presser talking about how much he liked the combined practice, it would be nice (especially after all of the drama last year) if he made it appear like he and MLF were in agreement, even if he hates them. He could have downplayed it to the effect of "oh they're fine as long as nobody gets hurt" or any degree of biting his tongue. It's just difficult not to read into even the minor things these days after everything that went down.

I know it is the climate these days, but people CAN have differing opinions about the same topic and STILL get along just fine. Maybe MLF wants to see how his schemes are going to work against an opposing defense and Rodgers still wants to work with his young guys in a new system.

It is all how you want to interpret it, it has to be exhausting for a guy like Rodgers, always under a microscope, to get everything that comes out of his mouth dissected and "wow he is snarky" no matter what

if he gave cliche answers like majority of athletes, he'd get picked apart for not speaking his mind and get told he isn't a leader if he just goes and gives the same old answer.

 

[OldSchool101]

I think MLF and AR need to stay under the radar and stay vague with the media, particularly this 1st season. Defer specific answers under the the guise that the team needs to meet and discuss recent events and come to a consensus before making further comment. Then when asked later.. just say “the team is focused on the present, not the past”. Play the game so to speak.

It’s become typical for the media at large to create the illusion of some animosity or tension and then embellish it in order to instigate a reaction from the reader. We should all be very careful not to take the bait and allow them the dignity of a response.

 

[Ceodore]

It is all how you want to interpret it, it has to be exhausting for a guy like Rodgers, always under a microscope, to get everything that comes out of his mouth dissected and "wow he is snarky" no matter what

if he gave cliche answers like majority of athletes, he'd get picked apart for not speaking his mind and get told he isn't a leader if he just goes and gives the same old answer.

It does have to be exhausting which is why I think you'd want to give a vague team-speak answer. In a year when everything he says is going to be analyzed to death I would think now is the time more than ever for him to channel is inner Belichick when it comes to the media. He's garnered a reputation, fair or not, for being petty, whiny, doesnt-work-well-with-others, diva-ish whatever. So, if you want to shed these labels, to me the move is not to come out after your coached has praised the practice and bash it. For the record I totally agree with him btw, my first thought when that Texan blew up the GB receiver was "why do they even practice against each other? it's bound to lead to fighting and injuries"

 

[gbgary]

rodgers knows everyone is watching this transition like no other. all he had to do was answer the question in a benign way but he chose not to.

Or maybe just maybe, people just want to use their magnifying glass just to make a big deal out of something that's really nonexistent. Next thing we're going to criticize Rodgers is how disingenuine he is because he sees no matter what he says it's going to be seen as him being either critical, or taking a shot at someone. The only "distraction" is the fact that people such as yourself and others are making this into a bigger deal that it needs to be. So I suppose Rodgers should simply not say a word or anything. It's always a critical year with number 12. I swear Rodgers is one of the most dissected QB's in the NFL.

i'm no distraction but for the next few days the questions from the press will be. he could have prevented the whole thing.

 

[gbgary]

For the record I totally agree with him btw, my first thought when that Texan blew up the GB receiver was "why do they even practice against each other? it's bound to lead to fighting and injuries"

they've got to evaluate players and going against someone else, instead of the same guys day in and day out, really helps. the player taking the cheap shot, breaking the agreed upon rules for contact, was unfortunate. he and sternberger have a bit of history it turns out. a cheap shot isn't the way even things out.

 

[Do7]

rodgers knows everyone is watching this transition like no other. all he had to do was answer the question in a benign way but he chose not to.



i'm no distraction but for the next few days the questions from the press will be. he could have prevented the whole thing.

With respect I disagree. You talk about how he could've answered the question in a benign way, but the way I see it there was nothing wrong with how he answered. It's how people interpreted his answer. It's kinda like when your gf asks if an outfit looks good on them and you say it looks fine, and then the girlfriend flips out and whatnot saying how you don't like it when that isn't remotely what you said. Again it's at the point if Rodgers does that then the critics will say he's being either sarcastic or disingenuine. Again it's white noise. They're making the distraction, not Aaron.