The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

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you guys should check out Danica Patricks Pretty intense podcast
She interviews rodgers.

hes quite a well rounded guy
i'm not a podcast guy really, haven't heard it. But it doesn't surprise me that he's got a pretty good view on life.
 

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you guys should check out Danica Patricks Pretty intense podcast
She interviews rodgers.

hes quite a well rounded guy

Welcome "Danicafreak".....considering you just joined today, this feels a bit...."Trolly".....but yes, I have given out the link to her podcast a few times. It's a worthwhile listen for sure.
 

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you guys should check out Danica Patricks Pretty intense podcast
She interviews rodgers.

hes quite a well rounded guy
Rodgers actually sounds cerebral. Hes a deep thinker. Doesnt think about the good plays and doesnt think of the bad ones after the game.


https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=a...K0KHfiLAioQjrkEegQIBhAE&ep=6&at=1577728383234
Well hello there, Aaron! Nice to see you finally join in on the fun around here. As I'm sure you're aware, there's a few that you should try to avoid if at all possible, but for the most part, we try to be level headed. :cool:

As a side note, are you a Danica freak? Or is Danica a freak? :geek:
 

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Anyone older who has ever competed in organized sports at a high enough level or in a profession that required athleticism knows that sooner or later physical skills will begin to fade.

And they'll also know that they'll be in denial about it.
 

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While I appreciate a good “opinion”, Stats can show a much more clear picture of reality.
Rodgers worst major stat was 17th in completion % (62.0)
#16 in yards per catch at 7.0 (out of qualifying QBs with at least 2000+ yards) So.. Pretty much average run of the mill there, so nothing to get crucified over, so to speak.

Nearly every other statistical category was inside the top #15 overall in the entire NFL, including the most important stat. A QB’s primary responsibility is to Win games at any cost. Personal objectives are secondary.
13-3 (Tied for #2)
#2 seed in NFC


But to clarify things a bit..
#10 in passing yards (4002)
#8 in TDs (26)
#1 in INT (4)
#11 in 1sts downs (189)
#10 in 20+ plays (52)
#4 in 40+ plays (12)
#14 in Sacks (36)
#15 in QB rushing yards (183) 4.0 per carry
*Not bad for a guy who’s 36 yrs old
Top 15? 16 is average when there are 32 starting QBs.

As far as record goes, that's a team effort. The Packers won several games based on defensive effort. I don't see him making that kind of impact where you can say that he is winning games by himself.

Of the stats you post, completion %, TDs, Ints, and Yds stands out as important. He did great on Ints but that's about it.

His QBR and passer rating, which tries to amalgomize the meaning of these stats puts him at average to below average.


Looked up a few more

24th in first down %
18th in YPG
20th in QBR


Wanted to find 3rd down % but was unable. That is a good one and I think he was probably better on that then some other stats.

Wish I could find errant throw % as I think you would be surprised how high that was.
 

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i'm not a podcast guy really, haven't heard it. But it doesn't surprise me that he's got a pretty good view on life.

Yup and not to toss the Olivia Munn or Aaron's family conspiracy theories back up in the way some thought were effecting Aaron, but I am waiting for the media to start saying Danica has changed Aaron. I think she has, in a positive way, he just needs to figure out how to harness that in a positive way in his job.
 
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Wish I could find errant throw % as I think you would be surprised how high that was.
I’m not surprised at all. It’s a first year system with a first year HC and a stable of WR (less 1) that are largely inexperienced.
Listen Amish, Even IF Rodgers is the worst QB in the league as many posters imply through their emphatic criticism, how can you judge him that critically on a 1st year system? That’s not very wise IMO.
Certainly your not insinuating that his WR group as a whole had lived up to “their” expectations? If not? Does it not affect his statistical performance? It takes 2 to Tango.

Ive never said Rodgers didn’t have some inconsistencies, but this is being blown wayyy out proportion. We’ve got posters saying draft his replacement, which is bordering on laughable.

The point I’m making isn’t that he is perfect. Never said that. Nobody is. It’s that #12 stats and his Winning record don’t support the anti-Rodgers argument of him being pretty bad.
If it’s a personal dislike. I’d say You don’t have to like him on a personal level (although that’s a fine line to walk in life) we all need some allowance don’t we? Take the log out of your eye so you can see clearly to take the speck from your Brothers eye.

Ironically, if our fans are this critical, I do like that other teams may be similarly underestimating #12 That’s our best chance is to catch them sleeping while we’re tripping over ourselves.
 

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Yup and not to toss the Olivia Munn or Aaron's family conspiracy theories back up in the way some thought were effecting Aaron, but I am waiting for the media to start saying Danica has changed Aaron. I think she has, in a positive way, he just needs to figure out how to harness that in a positive way in his job.

hes healthier. In the latest podcast he refers to the SB win as some of his "fat" days.

He was over 240 in 2005 or so.
 

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I’m not surprised at all. It’s a first year system with a first year HC and a stable of WR (less 1) that are largely inexperienced.
Listen Amish, Even IF Rodgers is the worst QB in the league as many posters imply through their emphatic criticism, how can you judge him that critically on a 1st year system? That’s not very wise IMO.
Certainly your not insinuating that his WR group as a whole had lived up to “their” expectations? If not? Does it not affect his statistical performance? It takes 2 to Tango.

Ive never said Rodgers didn’t have some inconsistencies, but this is being blown wayyy out proportion. We’ve got posters saying draft his replacement, which is bordering on laughable.

The point I’m making isn’t that he is perfect. Never said that. Nobody is. It’s that #12 stats and his Winning record don’t support the anti-Rodgers argument of him being pretty bad.
If it’s a personal dislike. I’d say You don’t have to like him on a personal level (although that’s a fine line to walk in life) we all need some allowance don’t we? Take the log out of your eye so you can see clearly to take the speck from your Brothers eye.

Ironically, if our fans are this critical, I do like that other teams may be similarly underestimating #12 That’s our best chance is to catch them sleeping while we’re tripping over ourselves.
Never said he was the worst. I literally said he is average which the stats support. I highly doubt anyone here would call him the worst. Not sure anyone would even describe him as bad.

The majority of posters here put a large burden of blame on the WRs. I think that is unfair. I think most of the blame should be put on Rodgers. I am trying to right a wrong. Many here feel AR is above criticism because of his past performance. To me it is clear he is not playing very well. At least to his normal level. New system or not. Comfort or not. When a WR is running a seam, fly, screen to the flat route and you miss him by 5 yds, that isn't anyone's fault but the QB.

As far as drafting his replacement being laughable, many were upset when Rodgers was picked when we had Favre. I think that worked out well. If for some reason a very good QB would be there at our pick, we would be foolish to pass on him.

You don't have to take this to a personal level. If you want to discuss it, fine. I can assure you I have no personal animosity towards AR. Still think he was thee best QB in Packer history. His lightning release was the best all time. With a strong arm and incredible accuracy, that combo was extremely difficult to defend against. Plus, the way he handled the Favre situation was totally classy, and I greatly admire him for it.

His decline in accuracy should be obvious, if you were honest. His release isn't as quick. His arm just isn't as lively. I think he knows it and that is why he doesn't even try making throws he used to. And this is strange, because he looked pretty sharp in practice this summer. He was hitting all our WRs frequently for receptions. Not many dropped passes.
 
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hes healthier. In the latest podcast he refers to the SB win as some of his "fat" days.

He was over 240 in 2005 or so.

Yes and even beyond his physical is his mental. I get the feeling that Danica has grounded him quite a bit and has shown him that there is more to life than just football.
 

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Yes and even beyond his physical is his mental. I get the feeling that Danica has grounded him quite a bit and has shown him that there is more to life than just football.
IIRC she was a B3@rz fan. Could she be turning him to the dark side but his professionalism is resisting the effect? What we see is his ying battling his yang affecting his play. :cautious:
 

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IIRC she was a B3@rz fan. Could she be turning him to the dark side but his professionalism is resisting the effect? What we see is his ying battling his yang affecting his play. :cautious:

She has come out and said it was a bit of family rivalry on her side when the pack play the bears. She is from Roscoe IL
 

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She has come out and said it was a bit of family rivalry on her side when the pack play the bears. She is from Roscoe IL

Actually, she was born in Wisconsin (Beloit), but her family lived in S. Beloit, Illinois at the time. Hell Danica was even seen in Chicago before the Packer game wearing her Packer colors! :tup:

She is a Packer fan...unless her and Aaron split of course.

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Actually, she was born in Wisconsin (Beloit), but her family lived in S. Beloit, Illinois at the time. Hell Danica was even seen in Chicago before the Packer game wearing her Packer colors! :tup:

She is a Packer fan...unless her and Aaron split of course.

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RIGHT! grew up in roscoe

As to the break up I think she expects to be proposed to.
But with her ex Ricky stenhouse she thought the same
 

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LeFleur during his presser when asked if he is concerned about the way Rodgers is throwing the ball. "We've just been off on a lot of plays, whether its a guy dropping a ball or maybe a ball is just a tad off, but He (Rodgers) can’t do it himself, the players around him need to be better, The guys that have opportunities have to make plays.”

He addressed the deep route to MVS near the end of the game. He said they had a perfect one on one match up with the Will LB and MVS flattened his route, instead of keeping it high, which is what Aaron was expecting.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1djxXRqpMXOGZ
 
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LeFleur during his presser when asked if he is concerned about the way Rodgers is throwing the ball. "We've just been off on a lot of plays, whether its a guy dropping a ball or maybe a ball is just a tad off, but He (Rodgers) can’t do it himself, the players around him need to be better, The guys that have opportunities have to make plays.”

He addressed the deep route to MVS near the end of the game. He said they had a perfect one on one match up with the Will LB and MVS flattened his route, instead of keeping it high, which is what Aaron was expecting.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1djxXRqpMXOGZ
Yup he did. I think most agree?

The wr need to catch but rodgers needs to throw better.

But MLF doesn't truly throw anyone under the bus. Or at least I haven't heard him.do it.

Just because he doesn't Specifically say aaron has issues does t mean they aren't discussing it internally.

All media is discussing this so there is some meat to it
 

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So here's the question. There's no doubt that he played his best football when Adams was sidelined. Why?

The answer to this question is paramount to fixing the issue.
 

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So here's the question. There's no doubt that he played his best football when Adams was sidelined. Why?...
Perhaps because in his absence he had no other choice than to choose his best available receiving option whomever that might be? Adams's presence probably makes him the first talented option in any QB's pecking order simply by default.
 
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