The Aaron Rodgers performance thread

[Sky King]

Anyone older who has ever competed in organized sports at a high enough level or in a profession that required athleticism knows that sooner or later physical skills will begin to fade. Experience and guile may help to compensate for that loss. That’s life.

 

[Poppa San]

Anyone older who has ever competed in organized sports at a high enough level or in a profession that required athleticism knows that sooner or later physical skills will begin to fade. Experience and guile may help to compensate for that loss. That’s life.

You mean ?

You must be logged in to see this image or video!

 

[Sky King]

You mean ?

You must be logged in to see this image or video!

Yup.

 

[melvin dangerr]

Ok Rodgers had a bad game against a bad team, now its on to the big boy play, and I want him to have a good game against a good team, ugly is ok....

 

[Packer Fan in SD]

"Wtf does buying a home have to do with performance?"

You must be some dumb kid that has never bought a house. Buying a house is very time consuming. It is a lot of work. Tons of papers to sign. Meetings with Lawyers. Hard to keep your head in the game with all that going on. I've bought and sold a number of homes. Can't imagine what it takes to close a 28 million dollar sale. It's a no brainer if you happen to have one.

I own 2. Never used a lawyer. They lived in it this summer and she could have bought it on her own. It was reported as a cash transaction in November, so I don’t know how it would have an effect now. But you stay tough big boy. I think there are a few good posts above that have a good view of why this didn’t have any effect on the game.

 

[GreenNGold_81]

I think this team just parties after big wins. Would explain their performance at the Chargers (big win over the Chiefs, a matchup most of us probably penciled in as a L prior to Mahomes injury) and then the win at Minny and this egg. Ugly game, happy with the W though. This was a game of two halves.

 

[OldSchool101]

Stats don’t lie.
Rodgers worst stat was 17th in completion % (62.0)
#16 in yards per catch at 7.0
(out of qualifying QBs with at least 2000+ yards)
Pretty much average run of the mill.

Nearly every other statistical category was top #12
#10 in yards (4002)
#8 in TDs (26)
#1 in INT (4)
#10 in 1sts downs (189)
#10 in 20+ plays (52)
#5 in 40+ plays (12)
#11 in Sacks (36)
#12 in Passer rating
#2 (tied at 13 Wins) in Leading his team to a Win (which is all that matters in this game)

While admittedly his performance was off today, it’s easy to say he’s declined. Declined from what?
#1,2 or #3 overall?? Does anyone really expect him to be top 3 every season? Top 5? In a brand new system?? With a young stable of receivers???

Taking that data, I could argue that Rodgers in a bad year (2019) was easily a top 10 QB this season. I’d put him at #7-#8 overall. In a bad year? I’ll take it.

Now let’s go out and grab a couple of O weapons for once!

 

[longtimefan]

Bill Michaels
https://billmichaelssports.radio.com/blogs/bill-michaels/aaron-rodgers-the-packers-need-you

Rodgers ranks 30th in accuracy throwing in to tight windows (per Stats Inc and ESPN Stats).

Now this could be because of bad wr..

 

[adambr2]

Look, he tied an NFL record yesterday for overthrows. He was bad. There's no way of getting around that.

Could we use another WR? Definitely, we could. We'll get another in the offseason. But anyone who watches the games with an open, impartial mind should be able to tell you that Rodgers has been an enormous part of the problem offensively.

 

[longtimefan]

I would say from Roster spot #1- 47, to a man, the entire team played that first half like it didn't matter if they lost. Including Rodgers.

While the second half was better, it was still uninspiring given the importance of the win. Then again, they got the win and I look around the league and see teams like the Patriots lay an egg at home under a similar circumstance of what the win meant.

So did rodgers overthrow or under throw?

majority know the answer you just won't admit it. It's all over media, Sunday night football showed and mentioned it..

Wentz in Philly has practice squad players and it isn't that much of an issue.

Look...He is still the qb I want...but he has to either figure out the issue or adjust his mechanics..

 

[longtimefan]

He’s been missing a LOT of throws for years now. He’s at his best when he throws in rythm. When he tries to make things happen now... he mostly DOESNT. The home run attempt puts us at 2nd and 10 or 3rd and long way too often. Sorry but this ooing and ahhhing about some of the throws he made today is pretty much HOMER infatuation.... any top 16 QB makes those throws. At lot of his bad misses? Top 10 QBs do NOT make. And the long pass attempts out of bounds that never ever had a chance are just wasted plays. If Green Bay is going to make a legit run in these playoffs Rodgers needs to play like a top 6-8 QB which he has not in a long long time. It’s a team game, he needs to start doing his part.

Stats don’t lie.
Rodgers worst stat was 17th in completion % (62.0)
#16 in yards per catch at 7.0
(out of qualifying QBs with at least 2000+ yards)
Pretty much average run of the mill.

Nearly every other statistical category was top #12
#10 in yards (4002)
#8 in TDs (26)
#1 in INT (4)
#10 in 1sts downs (189)
#10 in 20+ plays (52)
#5 in 40+ plays (12)
#11 in Sacks (36)
#12 in Passer rating
#2 (tied at 13 Wins) in Leading his team to a Win (which is all that matters in this game)

While admittedly his performance was off today, it’s easy to say he’s declined. Declined from what?
#1,2 or #3 overall?? Does anyone really expect him to be top 3 every season? Top 5? In a brand new system?? With a young stable of receivers???

Taking that data, I could argue that Rodgers in a bad year (2019) was easily a top 10 QB this season. I’d put him at #7-#8 overall. In a bad year? I’ll take it.

Now let’s go out and grab a couple of O weapons for once!

Why is it hard for people to say..

He has been missing open receivers..key word OPEN..not 7th rounders..not practice squad players...but OPEN

 

[longtimefan]

Oakland.
KC
Giants

He was fantastic..so the wr wasn't issue then?

 

[Mondio]

Look, he tied an NFL record yesterday for overthrows. He was bad. There's no way of getting around that.

Could we use another WR? Definitely, we could. We'll get another in the offseason. But anyone who watches the games with an open, impartial mind should be able to tell you that Rodgers has been an enormous part of the problem offensively.

he was just inaccurate yesterday. Period. I don't think there was a play calling issue, scheme issue, buying in issue, WR issue, nothing issue, but accuracy.

Those were plays that extend drives, kill defenses, move chains, give you 4 more chances per possession at least. Missing 1 of those was either missing on 6 points or missing on 3 more opportunities for the offense. Those are huge.

He did that on more than 3-4 attempts. Hit some more of those and this game was the blowout it should have been even with only showing up for 1.5 quarters of football to play.

 

[AmishMafia]

Stats don’t lie.
Rodgers worst stat was 17th in completion % (62.0)
#16 in yards per catch at 7.0
(out of qualifying QBs with at least 2000+ yards)
Pretty much average run of the mill.

Nearly every other statistical category was top #12
#10 in yards (4002)
#8 in TDs (26)
#1 in INT (4)
#10 in 1sts downs (189)
#10 in 20+ plays (52)
#5 in 40+ plays (12)
#11 in Sacks (36)
#12 in Passer rating
#2 (tied at 13 Wins) in Leading his team to a Win (which is all that matters in this game)

While admittedly his performance was off today, it’s easy to say he’s declined. Declined from what?
#1,2 or #3 overall?? Does anyone really expect him to be top 3 every season? Top 5? In a brand new system?? With a young stable of receivers???

Taking that data, I could argue that Rodgers in a bad year (2019) was easily a top 10 QB this season. I’d put him at #7-#8 overall. In a bad year? I’ll take it.

Now let’s go out and grab a couple of O weapons for once!

No, but fans don't want to see their heros in an accurate light.

How can he be a top 8 QB when in most stats he is 10+ ranked in QB stats? The most important stat, QBR, which tries to summarize all stats, he is 12th. That makes him a little above average, which is what he is.

AR of 5 years ago completes 6 or 7 more passes yesterday. Scores two more times on drives. Even on some of the completions the WR had to break stride or reroute costing us significant YAC.


Got my ratings mixed up. You have passer rating and I was thinking the QBR.

Just looked up QBR on ESPN and Rodgers is 20th on the season.

Why is it hard for people to say..

He has been missing open receivers..key word OPEN..not 7th rounders..not practice squad players...but OPEN

Well said.

I'm all for getting some dynamic playmaker for offense. Combo return guy and WR. I think the shifty/quick speed is needed to help spread the field. But the biggest limiting factor in our passing game is the QB performance and not the WR performance.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I know some of you are going to take what I am about to say as an excuse for Rodgers poor play, but its more of an explanation and not meant to try and absolve him of playing poorly yesterday and at other points in the season.

If you know much about Rodgers, the guy is about as cerebral as they come. If you haven't listened to Danica's recent podcast interview of him, you should, it explains a lot about the guy and the way that he thinks. Was about the most candid interview I have heard with him and you could tell he was at ease with Danica doing the interview.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/aaron-rodgers/id1465014169

Personally, I think he is frustrated with his receiving corp. as well as frustrated at losing some of his play calling abilities. That frustration effects his play more than it would most QB's and definitely more than it should. Again, not making excuses and trying to say that its OK for him to be that way, but it is who he is. He is much like a golfer who can get into a mental slump and until he starts consistently hitting good shots, he can go in and out of that funk. Many times this season we have seen "the old Aaron" when everything is clicking, but when things aren't clicking his game drops off.

That being said, I don't think Aaron changes who Aaron is. He will continue to be hot and cold and probably only as good as his supporting cast. Hopefully this off season Gute can help improve his supporting cast and Rodgers himself can reflect on what he can do to be a better team leader. Until that time, the Packers Superbowl hopes are going to hinge on everyone stepping up their game, including #12.

 

[Mondio]

I know some of you are going to take what I am about to say as an excuse for Rodgers poor play, but its more of an explanation and not meant to try and absolve him of playing poorly yesterday and at other points in the season.

If you know much about Rodgers, the guy is about as cerebral as they come. If you haven't listened to Danica's recent podcast interview of him, you should, it explains a lot about the guy and the way that he thinks. Was about the most candid interview I have heard with him and you could tell he was at ease with Danica doing the interview.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/aaron-rodgers/id1465014169

Personally, I think he is frustrated with his receiving corp. as well as frustrated at losing some of his play calling abilities. That frustration effects his play more than it would most QB's and definitely more than it should. Again, not making excuses and trying to say that its OK for him to be that way, but it is who he is. He is much like a golfer who can get into a mental slump and until he starts consistently hitting good shots, he can go in and out of that funk. Many times this season we have seen "the old Aaron" when everything is clicking, but when things aren't clicking his game drops off.

That being said, I don't think Aaron changes who Aaron is. He will continue to be hot and cold and probably only as good as his supporting cast. Hopefully this off season Gute can help improve his supporting cast and Rodgers himself can reflect on what he can do to be a better team leader. Until that time, the Packers Superbowl hopes are going to hinge on everyone stepping up their game, including #12.

I think there is a lot of truth in there, because he can still make all the throws. he can still put it on a dime, touch, or rope. He's like everyone else. Familiarity will improve things. Comfort will improve things etc. There are still people not where they're supposed to be, he still doesn't trust routes or guys completely and even as smart as he is, there are probably things in this offense he's not completely comfortable with either.

That's why we see the surges and the struggles. I expect that to smooth out with more familiarity and a better player or 2.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think there is a lot of truth in there, because he can still make all the throws. he can still put it on a dime, touch, or rope. He's like everyone else. Familiarity will improve things. Comfort will improve things etc. There are still people not where they're supposed to be, he still doesn't trust routes or guys completely and even as smart as he is, there are probably things in this offense he's not completely comfortable with either.

That's why we see the surges and the struggles. I expect that to smooth out with more familiarity and a better player or 2.

Agreed. Not saying Aaron is "Rainman", but if you listen to that interview, he is very detailed oriented, very mindful of his surroundings and yet a bit OCD over it all. So yes, I can imagine that this year has been a bit of a struggle for him, new system, less talent and yet the team is 13-3. "Uh oh....12 minutes to Wapner"

 

[longtimefan]

I know some of you are going to take what I am about to say as an excuse for Rodgers poor play, but its more of an explanation and not meant to try and absolve him of playing poorly yesterday and at other points in the season.

If you know much about Rodgers, the guy is about as cerebral as they come. If you haven't listened to Danica's recent podcast interview of him, you should, it explains a lot about the guy and the way that he thinks. Was about the most candid interview I have heard with him and you could tell he was at ease with Danica doing the interview.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/aaron-rodgers/id1465014169

Personally, I think he is frustrated with his receiving corp. as well as frustrated at losing some of his play calling abilities. That frustration effects his play more than it would most QB's and definitely more than it should. Again, not making excuses and trying to say that its OK for him to be that way, but it is who he is. He is much like a golfer who can get into a mental slump and until he starts consistently hitting good shots, he can go in and out of that funk. Many times this season we have seen "the old Aaron" when everything is clicking, but when things aren't clicking his game drops off.

That being said, I don't think Aaron changes who Aaron is. He will continue to be hot and cold and probably only as good as his supporting cast. Hopefully this off season Gute can help improve his supporting cast and Rodgers himself can reflect on what he can do to be a better team leader. Until that time, the Packers Superbowl hopes are going to hinge on everyone stepping up their game, including #12.

Yes agreed i see this.

But for once can you just admit he missed some throws?

 

[AmishMafia]

Personally, I think he is frustrated with his receiving corp. as well as frustrated at losing some of his play calling abilities. That frustration effects his play more than it would most QB's and definitely more than it should. Again, not making excuses and trying to say that its OK for him to be that way, but it is who he is. He is much like a golfer who can get into a mental slump and until he starts consistently hitting good shots, he can go in and out of that funk. Many times this season we have seen "the old Aaron" when everything is clicking, but when things aren't clicking his game drops off.

Which brings up more criticism that should be leveled at Rodgers. Lack of leadership.

Many moons ago I watched Cal play vrs USC. Bears were underdogs to the 28-0 (over 2+ years) Trojans. Rodgers almost won that game. He walked out there cool as a cucumber. He was clapping his hand firing up the troops. Talking to the offense on the sidelines. I told my friends that he was the real deal and would be a great pro and we should get him of we could. I thought he was the best leader of QBs coming out of college since Elway. A trait I place high priority on. We all agreed he would go No. 1 in the draft.

That is long gone. Now he is yelling at his players, pointing at them after bad plays. He gives MLF a disrespectful sneer after a 4th down attempt failed recently. I see non-confident body language walking off the field after failed 3rd down attempts.

None of this helps the team or the WRs for that matter. You want to inspire and improve young WRs, don't throw them under the bus after a failed pass. Discuss it on the sidelines after the play. Can you imagine if WRs were calling him out after every aaron't pass?

 

[OldSchool101]

While I appreciate a good “opinion”, Stats can show a much more clear picture of reality.
Rodgers worst major stat was 17th in completion % (62.0)
#16 in yards per catch at 7.0 (out of qualifying QBs with at least 2000+ yards) So.. Pretty much average run of the mill there, so nothing to get crucified over, so to speak.

Nearly every other statistical category was inside the top #15 overall in the entire NFL, including the most important stat. A QB’s primary responsibility is to Win games at any cost. Personal objectives are secondary.
13-3 (Tied for #2)
#2 seed in NFC

But to clarify things a bit..
#10 in passing yards (4002)
#8 in TDs (26)
#1 in INT (4)
#11 in 1sts downs (189)
#10 in 20+ plays (52)
#4 in 40+ plays (12)
#14 in Sacks (36)
#15 in QB rushing yards (183) 4.0 per carry
*Not bad for a guy who’s 36 yrs old

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Yes agreed i see this.

But for once can you just admit he missed some throws?

LOL....you are like a dog with a bone today.

Have you read any of my posts? In case you haven't, Rodgers played like crap during most of yesterdays game. Fortunately, he and a few teammates stepped it up when they needed to and got the W.

Actually, I am quite surprised that my Parrot is not saying "What The F**
K are you doing Rodgers!!" Because I must have yelled it 20 times during the game.

You may have mistaken me for a "Rodgers apologist", when in reality all I am trying to figure out is why things happen the way that they do. It's easy to be a fan and say "this guy sucks, cut him, get rid of him", but those aren't answers or explanations, rather reactions and in many cases, knee jerk ones at that. Just like the opposite fan, the one that only sees things through green and gold glasses. I would like to think I am neither of those.

So yes, lets all agree that Rodgers missed some throws yesterday, that was obvious. However, I want to know why he missed those throws, that is more important to me moving forward.

 

[Mondio]

knick knack patty whack...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

knick knack patty whack...

LOL....I read that and all I could think of was....

You must be logged in to see this image or video!

 

[danicafreak]

you guys should check out Danica Patricks Pretty intense podcast
She interviews rodgers.

hes quite a well rounded guy

 

[Mondio]

LOL....I read that and all I could think of was....

You must be logged in to see this image or video!

I left it open for interpretation for just such a reason